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- June 24, 2018 at 6:40 PM #297498MovnewParticipant
I am a complete novice but I was hoping to get some help. Recently, I paid a professional company to scan my old Super 8 home movies. These were high quality scans and the frames themselves came out very nice. The problem is the issue of the original films being shot at 18 frames per second. The company scanned the original film and then “pulled down” the scan using “Premiere Pro” converting to 30 frames per second. This might not have been such a bad thing if the pattern that pulled down had been “1,1,2,2,3,4,4,5,5,6…etc.”. Unfortunately for some reason Premiere Pro pulls it down like this: “1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,6,6…etc.”. The result is just awful jerky motion that literally makes me feel nauseous to watch. According to the company, Premiere Pro does what it does and they have no way to make Premiere Pro pulldown in a different pattern. So here are the sets of scans that I purchased from them:
1. 30fps pulldown in 2K AVI (1,2,3,3,3 pulldown pattern)
2. 30fps pulldown in HD MP4 (1,2,3,3,3 pulldown pattern)
3. 24fps without pulldown in 2K AVI (no duplicate frames but plays in fast motion because the native Super 8 was shot at 18fps).
4. TIFF files of every single frame…comes out to be over 5 terabytes!
I have no idea if I can make any of these four purchases into anything that will actually play my movies so that they appear at the same 18fps that they were filmed in but I figured I would archive what I have as well as I can because the original films themselves are about 50 years old.
Here are some questions I hope someone could answer:
1. Is there any program other than Premiere Pro that can pulldown at a logical 1,1,2,2,3,4,4,5,5,6..etc. pattern? The movies would not look bad in 30fps if the pulldown was in this pattern.
2. Is there a program that would allow me to take the 24fps 2K AVI without pulldown and simply set it to 75% speed (slow motion) so that it can be played to look almost exactly like 18fps without duplicating any frames? If so, I am wondering if I can work my smart tv somehow to be able to watch this on my big screen in 4:3 aspect at the slower speed?
3. Is there a way to use a TIFF sequencer software to make a movie out of the individual frame files of my home movies? If so, can I get to the proper speed so that it looks like it is 18fps?
I am just looking for some way…any way to enjoy my movies watching them as close to the 18fps as possible. I would love to be able to watch these on a television. All thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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