Well since you never menti


Well since you never mentioned that you hadn’t read the part about the camcorder being available & okay, it never occurred to me that you were describing an alternative to the question you quoted him asking. “to use this input to somehow transfer” certainly implies that our young gentleman wants to use what would be analogue video inputs, if I believed his description. So exactly how buying a cheap camcorder to replace the one he can already use is unclear. To then poorly describe the process of using a camcorder (with the proper feature) as an analogue to digital converter in place of the analogue to digital converter already installed on his computer simply didn’t make sense at all. Had you thought to preface your advice with, “If you can’t get either the camcorder or the computer to work for you, . . . ” then some of what you said could have applied to the solution.

I’m guessing the fact that he has a media edition computer let’s us conclude he has an IEEE 1394 and a USB 2.0 port. But once again, I fail to see how discussing details irrelevant to his actual concerns is supposed to help. From all appearances, our young friend wants to know if he can use the AV inputs on his computer to capture the 8mm analogue videotapes. Oh, and he can use the camcorder to playback if he would need to. How does any of that turn into discussions of hooking up modern digital camcorders? By someone giving advice when they don’t know what they are doing. Perhaps they are lucky enough to know how to get their own work done. But they are hindered by a difficulty with literacy. What they actually know is lost by an inability to express it. Unfortunately, what they actually write doesn’t apply to the task at hand. So it is important for someone who might already be confused to know if he’s getting irrelevant advice. He can’t tell the difference. It is up to us to provide accurate & relevant advice.

So perhaps I am reading between the lines, but I think our “kid” already knows how to go about the process. He is just seeking confirmation because he’s unfamiliar with the nomenclature. Just as it appears he already knew how to do color matching of the AV out cable of his parent’s 8mm camcorder to the inputs on his computer, he’s nearly set to capture digital files for making DVD’s. In part it is a question of what does he use to capture the video? Since he has the video connected through AV inputs on the computer, I’m sure that HP provided a way to use it. The first thing I might try is using the pre-installed Windows Movie Maker to capture the video and/or do the simple editing he describes. Just a wild guess, but I think his computer might have some option to capture video through the AV input installed on the computer. Looking up “video, input” in the index of his user manual (generally an html:document on the hard drive) should provide some facts on how his system works.

Since our friend here wanted to save money, I made sure my suggestions were of minimal cost and still achieved the desired results. Using what he already has available, he doesn’t need anything else. Discussions of using some other method of digital capture are totally irrelevant to our friend. Bringing up irrelevant information is the way spin doctors & fools operate, I want nothing to do with it. I want to provide useful advice, along with the reasoning behind it. And responses that do neither need to be dismissed for being irrelevant. It doesn’t much matter if the advice is really accurate when it doesn’t actually apply. I don’t care about spark plug gaps when I’m relighting the water heater.

shippocaio appears to already have the tools he needs. He just needs advice about how to properly use them. All the talk about other devices he can connect via an IEEE 1394 port is just confusing. You don’t appear to know you are describing how to use a variety of Analogue to Digital Converters, possibly because you’re not sure what an Analogue to Digital Converter is. Because you do seem to miss the point, over & over, that he already has an Analogue to Digital Converter on his HP computer. You could have suggested he connect some other device to the AV inputs, DVD player, VCR or a game, and try to capture that video. If it works, he will have no trouble doing the same thing with his parents old 8mm camcorder. If it doesn’t work, tell us what you’re doing so we can figure out your actual problem.

But when he is doing the digital captures from old tape, care has to be taken to keep the video heads clean.

I do apologize for ranting a bit about useless & misleading advice. We are the individuals responsible for seeing our novices are aided by the forum postings and not confused by them. I take that responsibility very seriously. So you can rely on what I have to say, I also explain the logic behind my advice. So I take a while to do it, you are welcome to argue against my logic all you want. Just be prepared to explain the logic behind your claims. After all, discussion encourages learning.

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