Hi Paulears,

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Hi Paulears,

I came across this thread doing a web search looking to troubleshoot a related issue with I am having with shooting in 60 fps. I am directing this to you, as you seem to have a solid understanding of shooting/editing dance footage. I looked at your website and see your company does all sorts of performing arts-related media work. I work in the areas of dance, performance and visual arts and recently did a project (a mask-dance work) in South Korea in which I shot the dance in various spaces in and around a forest, mountain, river and local shrine. I have a Canon EOS C100 Mark II; shooting format: AVCHD. It was the first time I had the capacity to shoot in 60 fps and ignorantly thought that I would be able to easily convert to 24 or 30 prior to working in the timeline, in editing or output. I had read somewhere – probably incorrect information (?) that shooting in high frame rate would give more flexibility and better image quality, even if edited or output to 24 or 30. (I am in the US, so I typically don’t work in 25.) I did not shoot with the intention of slo-mo and you can imagine the problem I am now facing. Having read through many threads here and elsewhere, I realize now I should have shot in 24 or 30 and am wondering what, if anything I can do to correct the problem. It is all compounded by the fact that the nature of my movement as it is in real time is very slow (like the Japanese form of Butoh dance, if you are familiar with that), so converting my 60 fps footage to slo-mo, if I just wanted to go with that, makes my natural movement appear unbearably slow. It also defeats the purpose in creating the contrast that I wish to achieve with the natural performance/movement as it occurs in real time/space.

Here was my work-flow: I imported the AVCHD footage into Premiere Pro and worked with it in its native format without converting at all (wrapping) into a different codec. I have been reading about the pros and cons of that as well and am thinking perhaps I should’ve wrapped it into another codec first before loading it into the timeline. But alas, I did not. (Likely another issue altogether) I also maintained the native 60 fps while editing. The conversion to 30 fps happened when I output (in Encoder), selecting H.264 codec with the HD 1080p 29.97 fps setting. As to be expected the completed movie file does not look good. All of my natural movement looks like it is in slow-motion, the overall movement looks choppy with motion blur and there are some visual artifacts. I know, Paul, you said in the threads that this cannot work (on 05/04/2016) but I am wondering if there is anything at all I can do at this point. I tried some tests based on suggestions online to convert the footage to 24 fps prior to timeline editing, then speeding it back up to 200% (&250%) and it does not work at all.

I would SO appreciate any help from anyone who might suggest a work flow that I can use a) that best works for AVCHD import and 2) to deal with the 60 fps footage I have that I do –not- wish to use for slow-motion imagery. Is there anything at all I can do or am I just going to have either make my entire piece slo-mo or live with the choppy final product? Is there really no export setting to maintain the native 60 fps and/or playback devices that can actually play it? It is likely useless as I would think that the eye cannot perceive it anyway. I realize I am exposing my ignorance here, but that is why I am inquiring to you folks on this forum that are more technically savvy than I. Thanks in advance for your time.

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