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May 1, 2014 at 3:04 PM #76441AnonymousInactive
I just shot a short movie on a 4K Black Magic Cinema camera and now it's time to edit. It's all shot in Apple prores and I'll be editing on a MacBook Pro retina 2.4 GHz i7 with 8 GB of ram.
I've been editing with Final Cut Pro but I'm tired of all the rendering all the time.
How does Adobe Premiere handle things compared to FCP. I've heard you can edit and view everything without rendering in Premiere and then you just need to render when you export at the end. Is that true?
'Cause I shot a big part of the movie with the camera upside down because of a little problem with the steadycam kit I was using. And now if I put things on the timeline in FCP and turn it 180° then I have to render the clip before I can view it. And rendering 4K takes a lot of time. I had no idea I would have to render for that and it would take so much time.
So should I get Premiere or stick with FCP.
Is there any way around the problem with the clips being upside down? Do I really need to render every clip that's like that?
May 2, 2014 at 12:54 PM #210346WoodyParticipant
UHD has created the same hardships as HD did with storage and editing speed. I would suggest learning a bit about "Proxy" editing.
I used to do a lot of proxy editing and grading till I got up to a faster machine and laptop. I'm a PC guy so I don't have any experience with proxy editing on FCP but I know you can do it.
May 26, 2014 at 12:40 AM #210472VIDEOParticipant
If you want to stick with your Final Cut Pro, you can get a 4K video converter for Mac like Brorsoft Video Converter for Mac.
It enables you to convert any 4k video to 4K ProRes or compress 4K to 1080p, etc that ensuers a best workflow in Final Cut Pro.
June 13, 2014 at 4:16 PM #210593henbcParticipant
Are you using an older version of Final Cut Pro? FCPX allows me to efficiently edit SD and HD while rendering in the background. It would work the same way with 4K, but your computer system needs to be able to deal with the 4X higher bitrate and compression requirements. Frankly I suspect that editing native/compressed 4k files will leave you unhappy no matter which editing software you choose.
I haven't worked with 4K (yet), but FCPX has a nice proxy media workflow. When you add media to an event a window pops up that offers the option of importing as "Camera Native", Optimized", or "Proxy". You could choose the "proxy" import, edit efficiently, then export in a 4K format. All without purchasing additional software.
Here's a link to a Larry Jordan article with lots more information:
August 15, 2014 at 7:56 AM #210945
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September 21, 2015 at 8:14 PM #212825terry06Member
It records 4K MOV files with H.264 codec, which is a final delivery codec that is incompatible with most NLEs including FCP 7, even FCP X. While, as we know, Apple ProRes Codec is the best editing video codec for Final Cur Pro, so if you wanna import Panasonic DMC-GH4 4K MP4/MOV files into FCP 7/X without any issue, you’d better encode Panasonic GH4 4K MOV/MP4 to Apple ProRes codec (1080p would be the best settings.) with a professional program, like Brorsoft Video Converter for Mac.
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