Can I get some help?

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I'm a novice at doing this but I've done a very few using Microsoft Movie Maker. The clips below were from a memorial service for a quilt designer friend of my wife. I'm posting the clip as it came out of the camera (thus it has crap at the beginning and the end), and the same clip after editing in Movie Maker. Both clips seem blurry/jittery as you pass over the quilts, but the original seems clearer to me. I haven't seen this jitter in videos I've done previously.

I'm posting here to see if someone can help me understand what caused this jitter.

This was the first one I've made with this camera, but it has a glowing reputation for making videos.

This is the original as it came from the camera:

Here is the same clip after editing in Movie Maker:


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Best guess is a mismatch in frame rates - was it shot in 30fps and then your editing software output it as 25fps? This means that every second 5 frames are thrown away, which is always obvious on pans. Without more details, that's my guess.


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I also notice that your camera footage is at a higher resolution than your edited footage. The picture size difference between the videos is a giveaway. Try exporting your footage at the same resolution that you shot it at.


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Sorry to be so long responding. I get spam from this site but not reply notices.
I'm too much of a novice to understand about frame rates. I shot it at whatever the camera does by default and edited it at what ever Movie Maker does by default.

The camera shoots videos at high definition and Movie Maker gives the option of exporting as high def or standard def. I did it both ways and didn't notice a difference. I posted this question almost three weeks ago and cannot remember which I uploaded to youtube.


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If you tell us what camera you are using we can probably give you some help to get better results.


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Wow! I got a notice of your post.

The camera is a Panasonic FZ1000


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Your camera shoots 4k video. It is unclear from the limited information on the Panasonic website, whether is has an option to shoot HD. So, at 4k resolution you will get some flicker when panning, just like a movie, because of the shutter speed. Usually, 4k cameras shoot at 30 or 25 frames per second, so there will be no way of changing that. It's just the nature of the beast. I had a look at the Microsoft page for Movie Maker. Even less information there!. It does not mention 4k, so I think it may not be suitable for your needs. I looked at the choice of output resolution in Movie maker which showed a maximum of 1920 x 1080, which is HD, not 4k, so I don't think it is capable of outputting 4k whose resolution is 3840 x 2160.
If you must use Movie Maker, make sure that you set the output to the highest possible resolution. Looking at your edited clip, I would say you exported it at a resolution of 854 x 480, which would account for the smaller size picture and the loss of quality. Did you do any picture enhancement in the edit, as the lighter areas are now over exposed in the exported version.
I would suggest that you thoroughly read the FZ1000 manual and the instructions for Movie Maker. Also remember that Google is your friend. Hope this has been of some help.

As an added thought. If the FZ1000 does shoot in HD, and has the options in the menu to shoot at 1080 50p, use that setting, and set the bit rate to the highest possible (ie 24Mbps or higher). It may use more of your memory card, but the results will be so much better.


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That helps a lot. I will read more carefully in the FZ1000 manual. It's touted as doing high quality high definition video and I assumed it would do that by default. Apparently not.

Yes, I increased the exposure in Movie Maker. Most of the video was too dark and MM only allows you to change the exposure of the entire thing, or that's my limited understanding.


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In the 2 clips you posted in your first post the exposure of the original footage looks fine so check that your computer monitor is set up to display a good image. Yes, software like Movie Maker can be very limited in what they can do. Fine control of exposure and colour balance, etc, is what you find in professional editing software. There are quite a few consumer video editors available, both paid for and free, so it may be worth your while checking out some of the others.


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I think Movie Maker is too simple a program for your camera. You need to go out buy a better video Editing Program, they can be had for about 100 bucks or so, but you need the computer that meats the specs of the Program to run it. And most, if not require a Graphics card above and beyond the motherboard's graphic card capabilities. There Coral, Pinnacle and few others are in that price range

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Thanks for your reply.

I can't justify the expense of an uptown video editing system. I do no more than 2-4 short videos a year. That one and a couple more I did at the same time were probably the most extensive videos I've done.