Camera upgrade path for weddings

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    • #86092
      sapateiro
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      Hi all.

       

      I'm new to the forum so apologies if this should be in a different sub forum.

       

      I started video through the common Canon DSLR route, and now shoot with a Samsung NX1, Canon 5Dii and GoPro 4 Black. I'm gradually learning and improving with the camera craft and grading. In terms of getting work, recent projects have been varied but I'd like to get some regular wedding work for the next summer season if I can (I've just done the one so far).

       

      I'd like to ask for some advice. I struggled a little in lowlight inside the church previously, stayed at ISO 800 or below, but used large apertures to compensate. As a result the narrow DOF (1.4-2.8) made things very tricky.  I understand that using more lighting may help, but sometimes that's too intrusive. I generally record to 4k on the NX1, 1080 on the 5D and render to 720p (at the moment). So my questions are:

       

      > Am I being too conservative by limiting ISO to 800? I use Neatvideo in Premiere as NR.

       

      > In terms of future upgrade path should I consider a used Sony A7S (when the mk 2 comes out and the original model is available cheaper), or look towards the Ursa Mini with all its hi res screen and high bitrate goodness (the EF 4k would be the only one I could consider financially).

       

      Any help would be appreciated,

       

      Gary.

       

       

    • #212594
      brunerww
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      Hi Gary – to answer your questions:

       

      > Am I being too conservative by limiting ISO to 800? I use Neatvideo in Premiere as NR.

       

      Here is low light footage from the NX1 at ISOs up to 4000 – no noise reduction in post (please watch at 2160p and your monitor's highest resolution):

       

       

       

       

      Here is a low light house party (caution, NSFW for language).  Don't know what the ISO is, but the depth of field looks pretty good:

       

       

       

       

      Bottom line, I think you can go higher on your ISO with the NX1 – especially if you use Neatvideo.

       

      > In terms of future upgrade path should I consider a used Sony A7s (when the mk2 comes out and the original model is available cheaper), or look towards the Ursa Mini with all its high hi res screen and high bitrate goodness (the EF 4K would be the only one I could consider financially).

       

      You might want to consider the $3495 JVC GY-LS300 with a $399 Canon EF to MFT Smart Adapter instead.

       

      The LS300 has a Hollywood-sized Super 35 sensor and performs well in low light – plus it has the ability to live stream to USTREAM and other services from its own IP address with a $10 USB IP adapter, as seen here:
       
       
       
       
      I've shot with this camera and it produces a very nice Ultra High Definition "4K" image. It is also sharper than the A7s, as seen here:

       

       

       

       

      Plus, it has the built-in ND filters the URSA Mini lacks, it records to affordable dual SD cards (instead of the Mini's more expensive CFast 2.0 cards) and it is a pretty good in low light down to -18db or ISO 3200 (again, please watch at 2160p and your monitor's highest resolution):

       

       

       

       

      Here is what this camera can do:

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

      Here is a very nice overview from Zacuto:

       

       

       

       

      And a great review from Rick Young's Movie Machine:

       

       

       

       

      In my view, this camera is much better suited for wedding shooters than either DSLRs, mirrorless cameras or cinema cameras.

       

      Hope this is helpful,

       

      Bill

      Hybrid Camera Revolution

       

       

       

    • #212599
      sapateiro
      Member

      Bill – thanks so much for this info – you've opened my eyes to other options. I pushed the ISO a little on a shoot friday and it seems to be holding up okay, I think I'll up the max to 1600 going forward and will definitely be checking out the JVC. Much appreciated πŸ™‚

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