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February 19, 2011 at 10:09 PM #44398AnonymousInactive
Could someone help me to understand why there seem to be no consumer-level MiniDV tape players? And why are they “pro only” in price when you do find them?
For years we have shot on 5-10 grades of video cameras from consumer to pro; and all used MiniDV tapes. We firewire the camera to a PC port and convert the tapes to DV-AVI format then archive the tapes. Always hated it – to me it only adds hours of wear and tear on the tape mechanism in the cam and is usually inconvenient in the workflow. So I started looking for a simple MiniDV tape playback deck we could patch into the PC and avoid using the camera for playback.
Mainly what I have found is $800-$2500 pro-grade tape decks. If I could afford one I’d grab it and not look back. There do not seem to be consumer-grade or prosumer grade decks at all. Can anyone explain how there can be $50-$200 video cameras which record and playback on MiniDV, but no matching decks – even from the same manufacturer? Is it a case of the recording formats used by different video cameras? Seems that if it was proprietary recording format you’d see Sony/Canon/etc sell their own brands of MiniDV players.
What am I missing here?
February 19, 2011 at 10:35 PM #185927Grinner HesterParticipant
the fact thatregular consumersjust play out of their camera.
February 19, 2011 at 10:43 PM #185928AnonymousInactive
I understand that perspective grinner, but cams like the Canon’s GL2 or the XL series all use(d) MiniDV tape and to me those are/were not in the consumer range.
Just seems that if its seen as a consumer-only format the same question applies and might illustrate the issue even more so.
February 19, 2011 at 11:54 PM #185929vid-e-o-manParticipant
On ebay there are some MiniDV decks you might look into at reasonable Buy-it-now prices. I don’t know much about them, you could do the research. Panasonic AG-DV1 ($150), Sony GV-D900 ($260). As always with Ebay or other similar sites, check out the seller and know what you are buying. Good Luck.
February 20, 2011 at 6:08 PM #185930CraftersOfLightParticipant
Why not use one of the $50-$200 cameras as your playback machine?
February 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM #185931AnonymousInactive
That doesn’t always work though. I bought a $100 camera specifically for watching and transfering and it was glitchy because it didn’t want to read the video I captured from my SONY VX2100 and Panasonic.
I thought it might be the camera so I tried to record some from it and transfer and it all worked fine. But not for the inported tapes.
I ended up taking the camera back where I bought it.
February 20, 2011 at 10:16 PM #185932vid-e-o-manParticipant
I’veonly used a miniDV once and that was to capture from it to my computer to edita school projectfor myson and his classmates.I don’t know ifthe footage on a tape from one camera might be in a compatible format (24fps, 29.97fps, etc.) for another camera to play it back. Pardon my ignorance here about this type of camcorder.Would this be a comsideration in choosing a cheaper cam to use as a deck?
February 21, 2011 at 7:13 AM #185933AnonymousInactive
Well that’s what I was saying. It’s kind of a crap shoot. Because not all cameras will read other camera’s footage. I believe the crap cam I bought for playing and transfering was a JVC. I tried to play footage captured from a SONY and Panasonic camera at the SP setting (LP is even more iffy). It was very glitchy. The sound was choppy and the video was jumpy.
On the other hand, when I use the Panasonic $600 cam to watch and transfer, it reads and transfers SP and LP fine from any camera.
So like I said, it’s a crap shoot. Just make sure the store you buy it from has a good return policy… Just in case.
February 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM #185934AnonymousInactive
I think CraftersOfLight and Eventvideoguy illustrated the solution we have used, an older cam unit to use as playback. We have 4 matching cams and use #4 (used from Ebay) as the playback deck.
But I think I formed the question wrong – its not a matter of what to do about it, but rather a curiosity over why. Just don’t understand how the tape drive transport mechanisms can be so cheap and plentiful but not found in simple playback decks.
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