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December 4, 2005 at 10:20 AM #42318
DigitalVideo
ParticipantWhen I do events I’m pretty stationary. I use a tripod and monopod. I use a Canon Gl2. What do you guys out there use for keeping mini cameras steady? I feel I’m losing alot of angles because of camera shake when moving around. I like the big shoulder mount cameras for mobility and steady shot when moving but do not own one yet.
Side note:
I go to alot of weddings with my wife and asked clients if I could view there videographers finished product. Some are real good but others look like there kids did the shooting and editing. The sad part is alot of people thought what I think is crap looked good. People are more into cheesey transitions than the quality of the video.
I remember one videographer used 7 cheap video camers put all around the wedding. 3 around the alter(one hand held), 2 one on each side, 2 in the back. The qaulity of the image was poor, sound quality was horible. Beyond that think about the time involved in editing 7 cameras. The sad part was the clients thought the video looked good.
Another videographer was talking while shooting and left his voice in the finished product. It must be alot of potential clients care about price over quality.
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December 5, 2005 at 7:35 AM #177898
DigitalVideo
ParticipantWith my Gl2 I believe the LUX is aroung 4 1/2. In low light I set to aperature priority to let the most amount of light in.(Does not improve quality but makes me feel good.) When I set to aperature priority and set it at the lowest point(think it’s 1.6 can’t remember) I still can’t blur the background. Everything is in focus. I know with cameras the lower the aperature the shallower the depth of field. So can someone tell me why I can’t blur the background? I can shoot my wife’s camera with a lens of 5.6 I can blur the background out. If I use her 2.8 lens I can have 2 people standing next to each other and one person is out of focus.
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December 5, 2005 at 2:00 PM #177899
DigitalVideo
ParticipantWith the 1.6 aperature I put in manual focus and was able to blur out the background alittle. Not sure if eveything will be soft. Hard to tell until I burn to disk. As for the 4 1/2 Lux I can’t remember if this is correct but I do have a hard time with weddings done inside. The viewfinder looks ok but the final image is dark.
compusolver,
What would be a wireless mic that does an excellent job. I was recomended Sennheiser in the 500$ range for a good quality wirless mic combo. What do you recomend? One more, Lighting kits – What ajustible kit do you recomend in the up to 50 watts?
The problem now is whenever there’s money for equipment my wife pulls out her photography dream list.
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December 7, 2005 at 3:37 PM #177900
DigitalVideo
ParticipantHank,
This is what B&H has B&H Kit
Sony Price : $ 2,299.95DCR-VX2100 3 CCD Mini DV Camcorder, 12x Optical/48x Digital Zoom, Color Viewfinder, 2.5″ LCD Screen
System NTSC
Format Mini DV (6mm Digital)
CCD 3 x 1/3″ CCD 380,000 Pixels (340,000 Effective Pixels)
Advanced HAD CCD TechnologyAudio PCM Digital Stereo
12-bit/32kHz/4ch, 16-bit/48kHz/2chZoom 12x Optical, 24x or 48x Digital
Lens Aspherical Lens 6.0-72.0mm f/1.6-2.4
43.2 – 518.4mm (Camera / Memory Mode)Filter Size 58mm
Image Stabilizer Yes, Optical Super Steady Shot
Lux 1 lux
Viewfinder Large Precision Color Viewfinder with 180k Pixels
LCD Monitor 2.5″ Precision LCD with 211,000 Pixels
Manual Controls Focus (ring)
Exposure (19 steps dial)
White Balance
Zoom (ring)
Shutter Speed (1/4-1/10,000)
Iris
Mic. Level.Date & Time Yes
Time Code Yes
Edit Protocol Yes, Control-L (Lanc)
A/V Dubbing Yes, Audio Dub in 12-bit Mode
Inputs Digital – IEEE-1394
Analog – S Video or Audio Video Input (RCA)Output Uses the same jacks as inputs
Digital Still Mode Allows the capture of still images onto a Memory Stick
Card Slot Memory Stick
Special Effects 6 Mode: Slim, Stretch, Solarization,
Monotone, Sepia, and Negative ArtDigital Effects 5 Mode: Old Movie, Luminance Key,
Flash Motion, Still, and TrailFader Black, Overlap, Wipe
Monotone and Random DotTitler 8 Preset & 2 Custom Titler
Built-in Mic Yes
Microphone Input Yes, (Mini Stereo)
Headphone Jack Yes, (Mini Stereo)
Built-in Speaker Yes
Accessory Shoe Yes, Intelligent (Hot Shoe)
Built-in Light No
Tape Loading Side – Top Loading
Power Consumption 7.2w, AC 110-240v 50/60Hz
Dimensions (WxHxD) 4-3/4 x 6-3/8 x 15-1/2″ (120 x 159 x 393mm)
Weight 3 lbs. 6 oz. (1.5kg)
Specialties Color Bar Generator
2-Position Neutral Density Filter
Digital Program Editing allows you to select 20 scenes (you can easily select and rearrange up to 20 scenes)
5 Mode Program AE
Zebra pattern 100%/70%Step-up from DCR-VX2000 Enlarged Handle with Mounted Zoom and Recording Control
Larger Viewfinder, Larger Eyecup
Enhanced LCD Monitor with 211k pixels
Built in Lens Cap
1 Lux Low LightThe sony said 1 Lux is this correct? Is the quality of this camera really this good? How would it compare to my Canon GL2 6 Lux, 0.37 Lux (slow shutter at 1/8 of a second)?As for a church where no other suplemental lighting can be used does this camera do a superior job? How does this camera compare to the Sony DSR-PD170 3-CCD Mini DVCAM? They both shoot at 1 Lux. Can quality get any better than 1 Lux in low light? Sorry for all the questions but I’m a novice trying to do it right.
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December 7, 2005 at 6:25 PM #177901
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ParticipantDigital Video Wrote:
With my Gl2 I believe the LUX is aroung 4 1/2. In low light I set to aperature priority to let the most amount of light in.(Does not improve quality but makes me feel good.) When I set to aperature priority and set it at the lowest point(think it’s 1.6 can’t remember) I still can’t blur the background. Everything is in focus. I know with cameras the lower the aperature the shallower the depth of field. So can someone tell me why I can’t blur the background? I can shoot my wife’s camera with a lens of 5.6 I can blur the background out. If I use her 2.8 lens I can have 2 people standing next to each other and one person is out of focus.
MichaelYou don’t say what focal length the lens is at or what distance you are focused at- both of these have influence on depth of field, in addition to the aperture.
You may be a f1.6, but if you are at extreme wide angle, focused at infinity, it almost won’t matter. Get close to your subject, focus close (obviously) and aperture will have a much more significant impact on depth of field.
One of the things I find lacking on camcorders is a depth of field scale- but I’m new to video (I’m an old still photog) so maybe I just haven’t purchased a camera with that engraved on the lens yet!! 😀
All of my still camera lenses have a depth of field scale engraved on the lens along with focus marks, etc. But with 35mm still photography, you couldn’t preview depth of field (except on very expensive cameras) before taking the picture (since you looked through the viewfinder at maximum aperture)- you didn’t see the effect until the film was developed. So the scale needed to be on the lens to assist. Electronic video and still cameras have a huge advantage in that regard.
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December 8, 2005 at 12:14 PM #177902
DigitalVideo
Participantvideosaurus
I’ll try that that idea later. I’ll set up and zoom in to try to blur the background.
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December 8, 2005 at 1:07 PM #177903
DigitalVideo
ParticipantHank,
How would you compare the Xl-2 by canon to the Sony VX-2100? Canon is almost 2,000$ more but is the interchangable lens really worth the investment? I know with photography it’s not the camera, it’s the lens which gives you creative control. Do you have any experence with the XL-2? Does the sony VX-2100 do true HD TV?
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December 19, 2005 at 11:23 AM #177904
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ParticipantNeither the XL-2 or Sony VX-2100 do HD (or HDV). to get HD you need to look at either the Sony HVR-Z1U, HDR-FX1, HDR-HC1, HVR-A1E, or some JVC camera or the new Canon XL-H1.
Personally, i’m partial to sony products so i’d look at the Z1U if you want professional options (i.e. xlr jacks and all) but also the PD-170 is very good for non-HD use. As is the XL-2. The removable lenses are really cool, but not very useful unless you’re going to be doing sports or something that requires you to change lenses. for your uses, that particular feature doesn’t really apply. BUT the XL-2 has a lot of other really great features that make it very good for you.
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