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May 26, 2009 at 1:53 AM #180350AnonymousInactive
Great post, Earl. There is absolutely no excuse for not showing one’s videos on the Internet these days seeing how manywebsitesare available for doing so.
May 26, 2009 at 8:10 AM #180351AnonymousInactive
They’re all looking to cash-in on video, aren’t they? I’ve been putting video on my sites before Youtube was even created…
I (and others) are still looking forsoftwarethat pauses the upload to these video sharing sites…so that we can use our cheap dial-up connections
May 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM #180352
Glad to hear from a true frontrunner of the video-on-the-web phenomena. Dial-up is dead. Oh there are those who HAVE to (somewhere in some wilderness and a few parts of Podunk, Texas) use dial-up still, others who insist upon using dial-up, but literally it is a thing of the past. Does BuskerAlley use dial-up? Just curious.
May 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM #180353AnonymousInactive
There are indeed a lot of alternatives to upload video!
With so much choice available there is a video host for everybody. My personal favorites are Blip.tv and the new openfilm.com
May 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM #180354birdcatParticipant
Also, with new formats like Flash and MP4, many websites can host their own video since the badwidth is so low due to smaller file sizes.
May 30, 2009 at 2:52 AM #180355jerronsmithParticipant
>>Dial-up is dead<<
Before anyone gets ahead of themselves please keep in mind that only a bit over half of US homes have highspeed connections. The last numbers I saw said about 57% actually.
May 30, 2009 at 6:37 AM #180356
While a lot of people still ride horses, you don’t see many on the freeway 🙂 as they’re no longer a feasible mode of daily transportation to and from…
Dead to today’s capabilities regarding bandwidth and viewing such elements as web video in a screen larger than a commemorative postage stamp and Flash, without downloading. While dial-up may be practical for basic e-mailing of messages and absolutely essential in areas where there is no choice, it is no longer an option for anyone wanting to access something over the internet at a pace faster than snail mail.
“Dead” doesn’t necessarily mean gone, just no longer effective for today’s bandwidth-hungry web content.
WHEN, may I ask, did you see the “last numbers” and what source?
May 30, 2009 at 2:10 PM #180357jerronsmithParticipant
Pew Internet usually has good research on the integration of american society and technology.
A couple of other articles I thought were cool:
The problem with the two articles is that they don’t list their sources very well.
>>While dial-up may be practical for basic e-mailing of messages and
absolutely essential in areas where there is no choice, it is no longer
an option for anyone wanting to access something over the internet at a
pace faster than snail mail.”Dead” doesn’t necessarily mean gone, just no longer effective for today’s bandwidth-hungry web content.<<
May 31, 2009 at 9:02 AM #180358AnonymousInactive
The only thing “dead”are their braincells from paying outrageous high-speed prices… This is why President Obama wants to get the high-speed costs down to dial-up prices.
May 31, 2009 at 3:54 PM #180359
The original intent of this post was to point out a source for information regarding the boatload of web video options “out there” and hopefull provide some folks a few options to check out regarding their plan for displaying or sharing video or clips – perhaps in the interest of marketing video related services and making money with or without Obamaosophy attached.
If you guys, or gals (whatever the case may be) want to debate the economic, philosophical or technical differences between high-speed and dial-up connectivity, or the shear money-making genious of seeking or advertising “jobs” on Craig’s List, there would be the OPTION of starting a thread of your own specifically focused on one or more of the OT comments here.
Keep a few of the posts here focused, OK?
June 9, 2009 at 6:41 AM #180360AnonymousGuest
Well…..we make a living out of video on the web. Not only that….you can specialise. Come see us @
June 9, 2009 at 11:40 PM #180361
Cork, your vimeo wedding video is taking an unbearably long time to download. In fact, it has been well past the minute mark and closing on the 2-minute mark (oops, just passed that as well) and STILL has not gotten past the spinning rounded-edge triangles on the screen. So, yes, I am assuming this is the same clip you posted elsewhere under “wedding video” seeking comments/critique. That is double-posting and I am removing it from this thread. Sorry, Earl.
By the way, it has now been MORE than four minutes and no joy – WAYYYYYYYY too long for anyone to be willing to wait to see a clip from ANY upload site. What is this, a full length wedding?
June 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM #180362AnonymousInactive
its a good post and very useful to all
June 12, 2009 at 11:49 AM #180363
Thanks, Raja3. Share more about yourself with all the Videomaker Forum folks. There are lots of threads that might encourage you to share your interests, experience and focus with us.
June 14, 2009 at 2:25 PM #180364AnonymousInactive
I just uploaded a hi-def AVCHD file to http://www.Motionbox.com and it played beautifully when I embedded it’s URL on my website.
They actually do the codec compression for you so we don’t have to worry about that anymore!
Plus, for $30/year you get unlimited storage capacity.
June 14, 2009 at 9:54 PM #180365AnonymousInactive
I’m really enjoying the topics on this forum, and I’m glad to have found it!
I have to say, that I don’t know where I would be right now without web video! Currently, I’ve found myself sort of in the position of the “scum sucking bottom feeder” as described in the blog article posted by EarlC. Since I’ve just graduated from Film School last year, I’ve been struggling to make a living and meanwhile develop my skills as a film/video professional, and I’ve found small videos such as web videos to be, in a sense, my savior! Not to say that it’s right to assume that web videos should require a lower production quality. From my experience so far, though, clients that seek business with me expect their videos to be simple productions, and are seeking a person who can do it on a shoe-string budget. Here’s my site, if interested: http://www.shoeboxstory.com
Many of the videos I produce are done directly between the client and I on a personal basis. However I am also involved in some of these other businesses who are capitalizing off of people who are in my same situation. The first is Howcast.com, with their Emerging Filmmaker program. Another is Demandstudios.com. They pay EXTREMELY cheap prices for videos that offer 0 creative freedom… but then again, it’s just a little more extra cash at the end of the month that makes my rent.
June 15, 2009 at 7:35 PM #180366AnonymousInactive
I agree that video on the web is a great thing and it is moving at a very rapid spee. I recently started encoding videos and have ran into some issues (mainly because of clients request). Most of the timeI shoot in HD 1440×1080 pixel aspect ratio 1.33. And I’m requiered to shrink the file size down, lets say 640×480 pixel aspect ratio 1.0. What clients sometimes dont understand is that just because the file was shot in HD doesn’t meanyour compressfile is going to have the same quality. They request small bit rates and most of the viewers dont have the latest version of player.
I know this is a bit off your post Earl…but I just felt like venting. In any case, I checked out some of the websites that are out there. Thanks for the post EarlC!!
July 4, 2009 at 11:28 AM #180367AnonymousInactive
Actually, you don’t have to embed anything but can just copy and paste the motionbox page URL on which your videos are showing as I am doing here:
The great thing about motionbox is that theycompress and convert your video filesfor you and thenplay them backin both standard mode and the same Hi-defas the original files you sent them.
One other thing. It costs $40 per year, not 30, but for $40 you get UNLIMITED STORAGE CAPACITY!
Now that motionbox is making it real easy to upload Hi-def video files there is no reason on earth why every seller of real estate should not have gorgeous videos of their property showing on http://www.TheRealEstateVideoShow.com
July 4, 2009 at 2:25 PM #180368CvilleParticipant
Below is text directly from the motion box website that state no real estate videos.
The following content is NOT permitted on Basic or Premium accounts:
o Advertisements or infomercials for any commercial venture or product
o Real estate videos and tours
o Video promoting any for-profit business
o Videos that display your company??s logo as a watermark or website address of a commercial site
o Videos embedded on advertising-supported websites
July 5, 2009 at 1:45 AM #180369AnonymousInactive
Thanks much for the alert, Cville. I should have known that $40/yearwas too good to be true.
In an addendum under the house rules though, Motionbox invites us toinquire about their Professional hosting servicesso I sent theman email and will keep you informed of their response.
July 5, 2009 at 3:35 AM #180370
Just as this initial thread focuses on the MANY options for web video hosting, why fight one that is less than optimum, or downright WRONG for your particular specific intent and purpose?
July 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM #180371AnonymousInactive
EarlCwrote: “Just as this initial thread focuses on the MANY options for web video hosting, why fight one that is less than optimum, or downright WRONG for your particular specific intent and purpose?”
The July issue of Videomaker featured an excellent article byAndrew Burke on Online Sharing Sitesin whichYouTube, Vimeo and Motionbox were highly recommended. In searching for the optimum solution to my specific needs and purpose I am open to investigating and exploring all suggestions and recommendations. As an alternative to converting my original AVCHD files to either .wmv or flash files before I upload them to my current webhosting service I find the services offered by Motionbox appealing because it is done forme and quickly plays the videos back in gorgeous Hi-def as soon as they are clickedon.
Now that I find that Motionbox, like Vimeo, does not allow for the showing of commercial interests like real estate videos at their “premium” rate, I am waiting for their response to my inquiry about their professional hosting services. In the meantime, I will be only too happy to consider other solutions to my specific needs and purpose because it will benefit all videomakers who want topost links totheir real estate videos on my real estate website.
I appreciate this opportunity to discuss my video needs and now that I think of it, will post a link to these forums inthe discussionforum on my Videographer’s Board.
July 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM #180372AnonymousInactive
Great News! Motionbox allows commercial usage including real estate videos with their Professional Business Hosting Service. Hey, they need to make money just like the rest of us.
Equally good news is that besidesa basic $10 monthly fee they only charge 25 cents per 1 Gigabyte ofplayback contentdelivered to viewers. I’veuploaded about 20 videos so far amounting to20 minutes of videoinabout 1G ofstorage.It will cost me 25 cents if you view all 20 videos, even in Hi-def.
Anyway, Motionbox is only one solution for videomakers who upload to the Web and not necessarily the best choice for you, but the ease and convenience made possible by the complete bypassing of file conversion(including AVCHD) makes Motionbox a winning solution for me for the time being and should meet the needs of a many a videomaker no matter their favorite subject matter.
August 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM #180373wayondaParticipant
Yes Many option for video on the web. Now the primary option is to try and monetize the effort with advertising but I believe some additional opportunites will surface shortly.
August 31, 2009 at 4:01 AM #180374AnonymousInactive
Thanks earl for such inspirational writing I just read through several of the posts including “Video on the Web”. In there you mentioned Digg as a marketing tool. Digg is very powerful with search engine ranks in google. Once a page or video has a Digg entry attached to it and 2 or 3 people “Digg It” the content or the digg entry attached to it almost instantly shows up in a top 5 search rank on google. I’ve had mixed results with other search engines though.
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