Streaming a wedding as additional service.

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    • #47386
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      A client recentlyapproachedus with a request to have their ceremony streamed live over the internet. Does anyone have any experience with this set up? We have reached out to a few companies that contract this out and will most likely usetheirservices but wanted to see if anyone here has pulled this off ontheirown and if so what was theexperience?

  • #195228
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    http://www.apple.com/quicktime/extending/resources.html

    headaches mostly… I wouldn’t bill extra for it. If there is any technical difficulties on your end or on the receiving parties end, you will have very unhappy people to try and reason with. I feel it’s better to have an assistant upload a video immediately after the ceremony…. so have at least one “Flip” type cam running, grab the card a drop onto a website or social networking site… if you set it up in advance, the family across the globe will get it within an hour of the ceremony.

  • #195229
    Luis Oscar MaymiLuis Oscar Maymi
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    Streaming live over the Internet requires not only extra equipment, but also more crew members. Is not to be giveaway for a cheap price and like Don mentioned, there are a lot of technical difficulties involved and you will probably need a web designer (I will explain why later). I have done this a couple of times and basically you need three things; (1) An insanely good Internet UPLOAD speed (2) A device or switcher connected to a computer (laptop is ideal) (3) Audio device to capture audio separately. Let’s go one by one

    (1) A good UPLOAD speed (not download speed) is necessary to stream your video without any interruptions. If you have a slow upload speed your video will freeze from time to time. We use (believe it or not) an iPhone 4 and I must say it works great. One very important note, the iPhone we have has unlimited internet bandwidth because the service provider contract is from the first iPhone that hit the market (which had unlimited Internet bandwidth). In my country (Puerto Rico) there are no more unlimited plans from service providers that has iPhones. If this is your case, you will need to charge your client the extra MB of Internet bandwidth that you use, which could be a lot depending on the leght of the wedding.

    Another approach is using the Internet from the establishment the wedding will take place (if they have one). By all means do not use wireless Internet to stream, use an Ethernet cable when possible. Doing it wireless increase the amount of video “freezes”.

    (2)Now that you know you have Internet the next step is the fun one, what to use to stream. First let’s check the hardware. You can do this totally pro using a switcher such Black Magic ATEM 1 M/Eor go a la cheap style using a device called EasyCAP. Since my budget is small I have use the EasyCAP and have figure out a couple of ways to make it look a little more decent. By connecting an RCA cable (longer is better) from your camera to the EasyCAP you now have a “webcam” that you can use with any streaming program. Basically with this you will be able to use softwares, such as BoinxTV for Mac or Wirecastfor Windows to make you production look very professional by adding titles, bugs, lower thirds, etc live and also use more than two cameras. One thing to note, I use the EasyCAP because my camcorder (Sony AX2000) does not have firewire, but if your camera and computer have firewire ports then there is not necessity in buying an EasyCAP. Almost all the programs identify Firewire cameras. Anyway, I will continue with the EasyCAP approach, but is basically the same thing with firewire (with more technical steps to take).

    Now you need a services where you can host and stream your video. I have use with great success uStream, which is free by the way. With the EasyCAP all I need to do is use a little program called CamTwistand Ustream identifies the camera. After that is just start broadcasting. If you are using a broadcasting software (BoinxTV in my case) all I need to do is tell BoinxTV that my camera source comes from CamTwist and voila, I have a “professional broadcast studio”. If you are only using one camera or don’t want fancy titles, just use the camera source program (in this case CamTwist) with Ustream. There are a lot more technical aspect involve in this part and it takes a considerable amount of time to make it all work.

    (3) I recommend capturing audio separately from the video because it will give you a lot more control over your overall broadcast. I use an AudioBox USB. When I have the opportunity, I connect one channel of AudioBox directly to the audio mixer from the establishment and another one is a omnidirectional mic to capture the ambience noise. People will accept an awful looking video, but not the audio. The audio needs to be near perfect and must be monitor constantly.

    Basically you need at least three people to work on this (if you are using one camera); one cameraman (if your camera is static one person is ok, but if the camera man is moving he/she will need another person to help with the cable), one person working with the audio and one person working with the computer.

    Generally doing live streaming is a lot of hard work and setting up is quite the adventure. Like I mentioned previously, you will probably need a web designer to make you a special website just to host your Ustream video. I recommend this because its easier to share, it will dramatically increase your website visit (yes host it in your own website) and you can even put your own ads. Check the one we did in Holy Week http://xeneuxe.com/semanasanta/

    Well this sure was a long reply. There are many other aspect that I didn’t mention and there are also many other ways to do this. The conclusion to all this is charge extra for it because. broadcasting live is one of the most high end service we videographer can offer. Hope this helps

  • #195230
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    Sarge… I did not mean it SHOULD be given away (though that is what I said, sorry) I meant THIS fella should not take money from these people for his FIRST try. If anything goes wrong, there will be breach of contract issues for him…

    If you cannot guarentee deilvery, don’t promise it.

    and yes it is doable, but even the experts have tech problems from time to time.. if you cannot control how much bandwidth you got on both ends and somebody loses thier feed…

  • #195231
    Luis Oscar MaymiLuis Oscar Maymi
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    Don, I totally agree that “If you cannotguaranteedelivery, don’t promise it.” Like I mentioned,it takes a considerable amount of time to make it all work, so before even offering this services for x amount of money you need to test it out first. With cheap equipment there are moretechnicaldifficulties involve and the Internet can go down without any notice. If you want to test this grounds in the wedding I agree with Don, do not take any money from your clients and tell them that this is your first time doing this and that you cannot promise a perfect broadcasting experience.

  • #195232
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    SargeHero

    So I have read your article here – I have a macbook pro(just switched from PC) and want to go on Livestream for a live web cast but I 2 have a Sony camera with no fire wire but hdmi and a rca for output.. I just ordered a easy cap to see if this will work the 300+ is not in the budget at this time so for the matrox I also use premiere elements but the live stream has all the functions to go live with but I can’t get my camera to be used as a web cam so to speak. Any other suggestions since this article was written awhile ago?? And just what does cam twist do??

    Thanks

    larkn5

  • #195233
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    http://new.livestream.com/

    Sorry forgot to post this

  • #195234
    Luis Oscar MaymiLuis Oscar Maymi
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    Iarkn5

    Camtwist, along with the EasyCAP, will make your camcorder a webcam. I think you will probably need to download a program called “Video Glide”, which is what reads and convert the signal coming from the EasyCAP. I’m not sure if Camtwist alone can read the signal, you will need to test it out to see what happens. I think I cover everything I have learned in my “article” (that make me laugh), but I strongly suggest to practice and test every possible scenario before live streaming an event. The “you get what you pay for” is very valid in this situation and many things can go wrong. That why you need to practice several times until you find your optimumworkflow. As for Livestream, is about the same thing as Ustream. The only thing you need to check is if you can use CamTwist in Livestreams.

    If you need any help setting up the EasyCAP just let me know.

    PS: Did you bought the MAC version of the EasyCAP? The Windows version will not work on Mac.

  • #212806

    You should try http://www.streamingvideoprovider.com/video-cdn-live-streaming-cdn.html as their Live Streaming system is truly great. They even do Pay-Per-View, VideoOnDemand, WebTV and IP Cameras.

  • #208584
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    Luis,
    On a differnt note, you mention in the article you were using an AX2000 for live streaming. Could you help, I intend to stream a split wedding ceremony from the male reception to the separate female reception in a different room and stream via a projector onto a screen.
     
    Could you please advise how you managed to turn off the all of the displayed settings information. I know I can turn off the items with the display button – but the red "REC" and green "STBY" always stay viewable on the external projector screen.
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