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- June 4, 2006 at 10:02 AM #42474AnonymousInactive
Hi, I just wondered if anyone owns one of the above camcorders. I have always used Sony, but the professional ones b/c of my work.
Now I am looking for a middle of the road one that I can take with me anywhere and has a half decent digital camera as well.
Though I will still be using my 35 mm, i thought there maybe an off chance that I need to take a pix right away and thus use the dig camera.
This camera has been recommended to me and sells for $999 cdn and 4 yr $260 service plan here at the future shop and $70 for a bag and 4 cd’s.
What I am wondering is how easy is it to edit with these new cameras. I know that there is a hookup to the computer and in my case it is a Toshiba 2410 satellite, 1.9 ghz, 512 RAM, intel processor and pent 4.
I have a new notebook in the box unopened yet.
It is 3.2 ghz and the burner I use with my older model is a BenQ 162I and also I purchased their new version as it burns in DVD ROM via their exe. on their support site and I have not had a complaint from 10 dvd player owners in our family as to problems playing their dvd’s.
What I am wondering is whether it is easy to Edit the mini dvd’s. I know that there is a new format coming out that burns to the hard drive but i don’t want that.
Am I able to watch the mini dvd that from the camera in my BenQ 162I as there appears to be a small circular slot when the door opens in my external burner.
I am mainly concerned about the editing if i get a mish mash of subjects on a dvd and then want to put one subject only on a regular 4.75 DVD.
Is there a good program for this?
I presently have 1 click dvd copy, clone dvd, Nero 6, Any Dvd. Presuming I won’t need to use the latter.
I have used professional Sony’s and still do with my work, however the dvd option appeals to me so that I can burn a copy quite easily for the family and eventually learn how to title, edit etc.
What program would that be and is it difficult?
BTW, is there any major difference with this model and the DVRC DVD 505 for the extra $100.
I am sorry that the Link did not take you right into Sony, Just type in Camcorders and you will see the model 405 and 505 listed there.
Again I look forward to comments, thankyou.
I look forward to responses, thankyou
I agree with the above. DVD is a pain to edit.
Tape is the way to go.
We have a hi 8 Sony already in its case and it has not been used for so metime and we did do edits on this one and albeit they were good they too were time consuming.
Are you saying that the quality of the pic is poor or the quality of getting a decent edited dvd is the major factor?
What my husband and I were thinking about was the fact that we could use individual dvd’s for each of our 4 granchildren’s families.
The thought of editing to be very honest, we did not look into. what we were thinking is that for say our only daughters family we would use a 30 min mini dvd, for when one of the kids birthdays came up and then if it actually turned out to be say 20 minutes so be it. then we would put it back in its case until there was another event in her family and then insert that mini dvd again until we filled the mini dvd.
And then do another mini dvd of her family again for a total of 30 min and then playback on the day of each occasion for her family to see and then burn mini dvd 1 onto a 4.75 and follow it up with the second mini dvd.
Would this work?
Actual editing of the 2 mini dvd’s after put onto the regular 4.75 we did not think about and realize that it is complex.
We see the tape ones out there but have not looked at them b/c we thought that the mini dvd would be convenient to plug into their dvd player and fun for the kids to watch.
Sony recommends R+ BTW.
The better half and I always burn R+ media as that is what is recommended by our BenQ I external support people in Irvine California and we burn the 4.75 Dvd in Dvd ROM, the "exe" that is what BenQ recommended and all of our Dvd’s work on all of our family and friend’s dvd players.
If we return the mini dvd 405 model that we bought is there a suggested home use Sony that a member can recommend?
And what about an editing program.
Nero Express 6 is all that comes with this 405 model.
And we would appreciate comments on the first description made of putting mini dvd 1 on a 4.75 (30 min) and then adding mini dvd 2 onto it to make a full one hour dvd of simply that one family’s events.
And I take it without editing which we were considering further down the road.
Again, all experienced comments would be appreciated.
We were not necessarily going to put a lot of work into editing as we did with our children’s videos when we used the hi 8, however we thought with newer technology that editing would not be so cumbersome.
I hope to hear back soon from members as I should return this model and continue looking as it sounds like we did not research this enough.
I guess one of the attractions with this unit was the Media (mini dvd)as we found the media for our Sony hi 8 which was well over $2000 was getting harder to get and also decent batteries were an issue as well. we used to use Sun Pak and they had a meter to tell you when they would be close to running out. Now it is just plain old batteries.
If tape is still the best then one would have to create a dvd from for instance our Hauppauge Win TV PVR usb2, is that correct?
That was one step we were trying to avoid.
Then what editing user friendly software would be use?
Best regards and I look forward to comments again.
The problem with cameras that use DVD recorders is that they ruin the quality of the video. I have no clue about still images, but your video will have blurring and splotching straight out of your Camcorder.
The next problem is that mpeg is hard to edit. Trust me on this. I made a minor mistake on a wedding video once, and I had already moved the raw files off the PC onto my long-term storage. I just figured I’d pop open the mpeg and add the one line I forgot. Bad idea. Editing mpeg clips takes forever using Sony Vegas. I can only imagine that off home consumer editors it would take longer.
Bang for the buck, I would reccomend Getting a Sony Digital 8, which runs off standard 8mm or hi-8 cassetes that you can find at any retail store. Yes, you will have to dump video to your computer in realtime, but because it’s an uncompressed digital format, you’ll get far superior quality to the video that you get from your DVD burning camera. Sony is pretty good about selling batteries to older cameras, and if worst comes to worst, you can find consumer camcorder batteries on ebay that are rebuilt and good as new for dirt cheap.
Now, if money isn’t a concern AND you don’t want to sit around and dump video to your computer in real time, I would suggest getting yourself a Canon GL-2 and a Firestorm digital recorder. The firestorm is sort of like a hard drive that your uncompressed video records on. When you’re done, you plug it into your PC, and no waiting to get your video editing going. On the combination, expect to spend $3000. But the GL-2 uses Canon’s standard pro batteries and MiniDV tapes, so as it is, even if you don’t get the firestorm, finding tapes and batteries will be easy.
If you want good looking video, DVD-cameras are not the way to go. Maybe in a few years, if they figure out how to indegrate blu-ray into home consumer cameras it would be interestig, but as it is today, it’s no good if you’re going to do any editing at all
Eh, good point about the Digital 8 format. It’s true that it’s harder to find 8mm tapes out there these days, though I still see the 8-packs they sell at Sams and the single packs at Wal-Mart. MiniDV will stand the test of time better. Either way though, uncompressed digital the only way to edit a good video. You’re very right about motion degredation. The blurring and whatnot can get fairly rediculous if it’s a fast-paced event (like sports – something a lot of kids do).
Thx for the great replies. I gather then that my idea of taking the mini dvd#1 of the daughters family and burning it to my larger 4.75 dvd is going to be degradation? and then when I add mini dvd #2 to it, the end result is a blurry mess as it is a copy of what came out of the camcorder which from several posters comes out bad directly from the source.
Is this b/c it is digital?
BTW, I was looking up Sony’s Vegas MSDVD6 and it indicates the hook up has to be firewire connector/IEEE – 1394 and our notebook is 2.1 usb.
Is this the only program that can be used to edit the Sony?
Just trying to get things into perspective for the future.
Sounds like there is a void now for quality camcorder video.
I was looking at the Sony mini dvd 46 which looked not bad, however I will have to use film and then convert to dvd which will be second generation and will lose quality.
As the better half has said we don’t want to spend thousands on a camera for family use which will not be used half as much as our old hi 8 when the kids were busy and it had the great infrared compared to our other models that had focus via TTL and we were not impressed.
We always select Sony b/c of the quality, but it sounds like the images when moving are bleary right out of the camera.
How do they charge over a thousand dollars for such quality??
BTW, we are still unclear as to whether or not we can burn the mini dvd1 onto the 4.75 dvd and then insert mini dvd #2 into the burner and then have a full hour on that 4.75 dvd.
Again asking this question for the future.
What new Sony camcorder out there that is not in the thousands is any good or is there not one in existence???
I again thankyou for your comments and look forward to the above, sorry for sounding so dense; however dvd sounded like the great way to go until now.
BTW, non of us are High Definition TV owners and won’t be going that route until all of our new tv’s the oldest 2 yrs and 30 inch max size , suddenly drop dead.
We are not tv buffs.
Again comments, thankyou. Trying to straigten out the mind!!! Still stuck in Hi 8 groove and our professional work monster cameras.