Making color video look like old B&W film

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    • #49028

      I am interested in taking some of the video I have and making it look like old B&W film. I was wondering if any of the less expensive editing programs have the ability to make this type of conversion. I am interested in the Adobe Premier 6 but wasn’t able to find if it did that.

      I’d like to be able to take it to B&W,

      maybe add some scratches, dirt & hair effect

      and possibly change the speed so it looks like undercranked silents or like old newsreels.

      I have a simple Hitachi DZ-GX5020A video camera that makes mini-dvds

      I am hoping that at some point I’ll be able to afford a new computer.

    • #200931

      Windows Movie Maker has a basic b&w effect, and film age old, but it doesn’t have 24p

    • #200932

      imovie does that easily.

    • #200933
      Grinner Hester

      all NLEs will. I tell my little trick though. While there are plugins galore for film scratches, ect., I kept an old beta from back in my linear days with reel film sctatches, grain, firt, and leader. I luma key it over footage when I wanna trash it up as it’s much more organic. I can literally tell you what plugin was used for fake film trash from the back of the room it’s become so recognizable.

    • #200934

      Grinner is right – All NLE’s have a color correction (or other) FX that allow you to bring the saturation to 0 – This will make your footage B&W. In Sony Veags’ version you can have varying degrees (from 0 to 3.0) which will have different effects on the video.

      Sony Vegas has a couple of other FX that you can use:

      1) Black & White – Just what it says – Blend amount of 1.0 will make it B&W, but you can adjust the slider to varying degrees of B&W (0 – Full color, 1 – B&W).

      2) HSL Adjust – Change the saturation to 0.

      3) Film Effects – Convert to B&W by checking the “Convert to greyscale” checkbox; add grain and/or tint by using the sliders labeled as such; add particles (dust, flicker, hair, jitter, scratches) by selecting them from the combo box and adjusting the slider to change amount to suit. Add multiple FX for multiple particle types.

    • #200935

      All the guys have given you great tips of how to do it in post. One thing to keep in mind when shooting color-for-b&w video is to keep in mind your exposure, contrast and the colors of your talent’s clothing during the shoot. Remember, all colors will turn to shades of black, white and gray when you convert the footage over to B&W. Blues and browns will turn black or to darker grays, Red and Green will turn to medium gray while Orange will turn to light gray. Pink, yellow or any pastel color will turn to white. You also want to substitute Dark blue or brown for black and yellow, pink or pastel colors for white. Black and white fabrics are a ‘female dog’ to get proper exposure on which will translate well in B&W.

      You’ll end up washing out your talent’s skin-shading and if you have dark or pale talent then there’s that whole exposure nightmare to deal with. Lighting will be your saving grace to help separate your subjects from the background. If you’re shooting outdoors, use reflectors if you don’t have outdoor lighting available. If you’re shooting interiors, use dedicated video lights with minimal diffusion. If you’ve ever seen any of those B&W films from the ’40’s, ’50’s and ’60’s the light is always harsh. That’s necessary to create a sense of depth in the scene.

      Here’s a link that gives an example of how colors will translate to B&W.

      Shooting for B&W

    • #200936

      Also some caneras will shoot black and white my FX-1 has this setting. I have used it before and it turned out very nice

    • #200937

      oops not caneras but cameras

    • #212318

      You can do a basic black and white and then put some overlays video effects like dust, scratches, hairs, textures…

      Here you can fins some of this

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