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December 15, 2007 at 9:12 PM #45050
Hey guys, so I’m coming to you with a semi-emergency.
I filmed an improv show (actually, several to get enough footage) and I’m cutting it down to the ‘best’ scenes into a compilation DVD. Right now I’m using the machines in one of my school’s labs.
I’m using Adobe Premire Pro 1.5 (In hindsight, I think the new labs have 2.0 installed, but I started the project in 1.5 and I’m so far along that I don’t want to start over now).
Basically my problem is that I’m trying to touch up the color and am getting a very strange problem during the fade-out. I think that the problem is coming from the fact that, even though I asked them to keep the lighting as constant as possible for me, they dropped the lights at the end of scenes and such (so that the raw footage basically has a built-in fade-out instead of me doing it in post). This bugged me filming and also during this whole post, but I wasn’t running the show (and not getting paid for this) so I didn’t have much say. So basically my problem is that during this, instead of going to black like the un-color balanced footage does, the color balanced footage fades to snow (It’s pretty orange/blue snow). I guess Adobe is getting confused by the change in lighting/color temperature. This happens if I use both the auto-color as well as if I color correct manually.
I’ve also tried to set up the ‘animation’ sequence and as the footage fades out, the colors go back to default. It works a bit better, but it still doesn’t really look right. Maybe it’s just me and that is the ‘correct’ way it should be, but looking at it with and without the color correction just makes the fade look differently (or do you think this is mainly because, obviously, the colors are different?
I’ve also got the brightness/contrast touched up a bit (the scene I’ll show you was meant to be a dark scene, so I had to play with that a bit to make it look better), and turning this off seems to help a bit, but not great.
I just am getting confused at this point because I’m not really sure what to try next. Because of that, I grabbed two clips out of my project to show you guys (sorry for the small res and heavy compression, but I don’t think it really has to be high quality to get the point across). The first clip is simply the problem that’s happening. The second clip I grabbed the footage 3 different times. The first is again the problem (same as first clip). The second part of it is with the contrast turned off and the color still enabled. And the third is just to give you an idea of what it looks like without contrast or color enabled (the raw, un-color corrected footage). Obviously from the third part, it needs color correction. I wanted to cut out the in-footage fade-out, but unfortunately it’s too close to the end of the scene (I guess I’m not creative enough to figure out a way around it?).
In any case, I’ve put a ton of effort into this project and am just running out of steam right now. I want to get it finished before the holidays for them, but I’m stuck right now. As always, thanks for any input!
The first vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCCA1tMXgsw
The second vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUy_VAOxnyk
December 16, 2007 at 12:35 AM #187804AnonymousGuest
Do you have a slightly longer AVI uploaded anywhere? Hard to tell from those clips what I might do to get around that.
December 16, 2007 at 4:21 AM #187805
Aftertakingagoodbreakfromthecomputer(Ithinkthatwaspartofmyproblem…toomanyhoursinarowsittingtherestaringatthescreen), I came back to it and played around with it to see if I could make it look any better. After playing a lot with the contrast/brightness and the colors, I got most of it to go away. I’ll post back with some new videos in a bit.
December 16, 2007 at 4:33 AM #187806AnonymousInactive
If the audio has to be kept during the transition, break the clip where it is still good and either freeze it or do a slo-mo with the original audio track. You could get a bit fancier and do a freeze/page turn or pan and zoom it out. This is easy with my editor but I don’t Adobe.
December 18, 2007 at 5:37 AM #187807
Here’s some longer footage. I pulled this out of my footage with my current ‘work around’ (I kept playing with the settings until it looked fairly normal and didn’t freak out). Note that I can’t extend the footage past the end because the lights were physically turned off by the improv troupe so the camera recorded black.
The freeze-frame seems like an interesting idea. I think I might want to try that out as a solution. I guess at this point, does the footage look decent now? I was only modifing the settings on the fade-out area (with a fraction of a second beforehand when the video didn’t start to fade-out) and left the rest of the footage before that the way I had it before. Can you see where it transitions in this clip and/or does it look bad?
December 18, 2007 at 5:53 AM #187808
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