How do you use a stabalizer?

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    • #37856
      AvatarJennifer O’Rourke
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      Hi, everyone, Jennifer O’Rourke with Videomaker
      here. I have a reader that asks an interesting question and I thought
      I’d throw it out to the forums.

      I have a reader that
      asks: “Does the magazine have an article on how to walk using a
      stabilizer. I really suck at this!”

      I did some research and can’t see if we’ve ever done a story on the proper way to use a tripod or stabilizer. Looks like a story is in the plan, huh? Any ideas?

      We talk about doing
      what we call “The Marx Walk” for hand-held shoot – imagine Groucho Marx
      walking in a room with his knees bent. It makes for a smoother image.
      Anything else?

    • #167662
      Avatarbirdcat
      Participant

      Hi Jennifer –

      I was once at a Vegas User’s Group meeting in NY and a guy came in with his GlideCam rig to demonstrate it. He had the body mount version and all he did was walk normally just lightly guiding the camera with his hand – the rig did the rest. I will say I was impressed but he had the higher end stuff (and lots of the accessories) and while less than a SteadyCam it was still pretty pricey all told.

    • #167663
      AvatarRob
      Participant

      I usually do it sitting down. I go to Effects > Video > Stabilize, adjust some track points, and then analyze. I believe this technique is called “fix it in post.”

      Hahaaaa. I kid, I kid. Well, not really…

    • #167664
      Avatargldnears
      Member

      “Does the magazine have an article on how to walk using a
      stabilizer. I really suck at this!”

      Use a wheelchair or shoot from a grocery cart . . . OR a pricey SteadyCam . . . . or a shoulder-mount camera andkeep a wide angle on the lense while walking like Groucho . . . . . Howz about a miniature remote controlled dirigable?

      Rick Crampton

    • #167665
      Avatarroblewis56
      Participant

      Dear Jennifer, If VM does an article on using a stabilizer I hope it includes video examples of what to expect by an experienced user over some standard course that includes walking back and forth on level ground, panning left and right and up and down and walking up and down stairs. Past reviews that I have seen have not included this.

      Robert

    • #167666
      AvatarEarlC
      Member

      Each of the many versions of stabilizer devices has its own set of unique requirements for utilizing it to the maximum effect. Most/many of them also require MORE of a physical endeavor than the non-initiated realize. Even those with the body harness require upper torso strength and endurance to use them to maximum effect or even for extended periods of time.

      When I say “extended period” I’m not talking about hours, I’m talking about minutes. With the SteadyCam JR and other similar devices, you need to have an good amount of shoulder, arm and wrist strength and some stamina. The so-called Grouch crouch also works well with these, but again NOT for extended periods of time.

      When using ANY of these devices, handheld or body harness, it is always best to determine the shot you want, set it up and get it done. Sure, if you’re strong enough, familiar enough and the rig is properly adjusted, you can perform extended shots: the circling several times of a subject, a walk-and-talk of say, 15 minutes … maybe.

      Those who have NEVER used any type of stabilizer have the uninformed perception that it takes the load off. Nope. It requires muscles and stamina you’ve probably never had. And it still puts extreme pressure on parts of your anatomy that will leave you sore if you’re not in excellent physical condition.

      Even then you’ll know you’ve been under the gun after using one continuously for any unusual length of time. I once covered a 2-hour event, rigged out with a GlideCam V8 body harness system and it wore me to the bone.

      Another thing is it takes a LOT more skill and appreciation for the fickle behavior of some of these rigs when it comes to keeping them balanced, taking them off, putting them back on during a session, re-balancing, wind-factor with the handheld units and keeping a steady eye on whatever kind of monitor device you hope to incorporate with them.

    • #167667
      AvatarGregory
      Participant

      I have a book that has a video that has an instruction…yes I really have it, it is packed, we are moving this weekend, all hopes, when I get that book unpacked I will list the author and ISBN. But what has been said is suggested in the book aside from two other points.

      There are three main points that I remember that stand out…

      1) [It has been brought out, the Grouch Walk]

      2) For stop and stand, pivot, pan, place one foot in front of and off to side of other, (right handed right foot, left handed left foot) bend slightly at knees and pivot the hips only, not the chest or legs or shoulders.

      3) [This point also involves #2] Hold the camera lightly, remove hand straps at they transfer too much movement, rest the camera in your hand and avoid using zoom, approach your target when shooting. When doing a tight pan, or you want a really nice effect, pan with the wrist (not the hand) and waist at same time but at different speeds. This gives a nice smooth glide type pan and works great if you like making scary movies. Takes time to learn it is in that video. (If I can get by posting it somewhere I will).

      And one last thing that helped me

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Camera-Stabilizer-Handle-Canon-Sony-JVC-Panasonic-/260516556240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ca7ff2dd0

      This is a sweet little extra that is tough, I have yet to be able to break it, not that I have tried. If you go into the guys store he has a lot of stuff to mount on the arm. This is not for larger cameras, and I call it the poor mans steady cam. But he has video’s showing you how to use it and in time you can get really decent. But Earl’s point is to be taken. In time trying to keep it steady will hurt, it requires learning small muscle adjustments, like piloting a helicopter I guess, too much and CRASH. But for low budgets this thing is nice and it adds a little protection to the camera.

    • #167668
      AvatarGregory
      Participant

      Here are the videos from that Cam Caddie

    • #167669
      AvatarAnonymous
      Inactive

      EarlC is right.

      These things take an enormous amount of energy, skill and patience to make work. I have been working with one with a Canon 5D and a 24-105. I have a viewfinder attached to the back and the things starts out pretty light weight but after about five minutes it’s suddenly weighs a ton!

      I have a C stand with a Cartelllini on to hold the set up between takes which helps. I am finding that it’s very difficult to pan smoothly for more than one short sweep. Everyone has examples of fast moving cameras with fast moving subjects but does anyone have some tips for slower pans?

      Thanks

    • #167670
      AvatarGregory
      Participant

      @Terry, Points #’s 2 & 3 in my post above is my best suggestion.

    • #167671
      Avatarwaxart
      Participant

      I’m in my sixties and have a Cam Caddie. Is it too late for me to learn to skateboard?

    • #167672
      AvatarEarlC
      Member

      Goodness NO, Ann Baldwin. Pad everything on your body that’s important to you and ROCK! Even the spills recorded on your Cam Caddie can provide THRILLS πŸ˜‰

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