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- April 15, 2010 at 4:36 PM #47896AnonymousInactive
Hi, my name is Dick (yeah I know…) and this is my very first post on any video graphic forum.
I’m brand new in the world of motion pictures. So new even, that I still have to order my equipment (more about this later)
For some decades I’m into photographing (mainly nature and Art) and for some years I have the urge to film some nature documentaries. After attending some courses about this, people (and I) seem to notice that I do have some talent waiting to express itself.
It was not easy to find a forum with people that are serious about filming regardless if they are pro or
amateur. I feel this forum will be a great help for every filmmaker regardless the level of experience.
Now, relevant to the reason of this thread:
I decided to do tape-less (flash) filming. Tapes are very “yesterday” and don’ stay good very long in the tropics. Also the availability on Aruba of tapes can be a problem. In short: I do NOT want to use tapes.
I think and hope that I have already a very good idea about pre-production and I think I will manage (with help) with the production. The learning curve is already very exciting and will never end. “Learning something new every day and all days of my life”
My budget to invest in equipment is set to about $6,000.00 This must cover the camera, extra batteries, some filters, flash cards, tripod and some other little things.
The main thing is the lens. The camera has to come with a very decent “kit” lens that can do a decent job regarding shooting nature documentaries. In the world of photographing, I know exactly what I need, but video graphing will be likely a whole other store. The lens, I think, is one of the most important things and will require an additional investment later in time. Right now I’m not able to spend an additional $X,XXX.XX for a lens.
This is the camera what I have in mind: Sony HDR-AX2000 AVCHD
I really would appreciate your opinion about this camera.
Later I need all the help I can get regarding post producing. I have the feeling that a MAC will be the way to go. This will be another investment. The PC must do for a while.
As you figure out long time already, I’m as green as grass so please bear with me.
Hello I have shot produced and edited programming for networks and have worked on Programming for the Out Door Channel in HD, shooting on the Sony F900 in full HD 4 2 2, Before you go and make a purchase you may regret, ask the networks you want to sell your hard work to. Ask them if your footage will meet their standards……………….I am not a snob about format but don’t sell your self short in the equipment department.Also as I understand AVCHD and have only worked with it a few years ago on older mac it takes some horse power to work with. Will you have to trans-code it to record out to a PRO TAPE Format for sale and air???
I still shoot small projects and make money on my Panasonic DVX 100A, SD footage I edit FCP and or Premier if I am in a hotel on my PC laptop if the project is only heading for the web in 16x 9 standard deff. or 720P it looks great for that!
I am producing a “movie” feature direct to DV for a few bucks and will shoot on my 100A or the Panasonic HD 200 but don’t have time to play with the P2 cards on set as I will be running and gunning, I can Tape it for nothing with out having an assistant editor swap cards back up footage on many hard drives before I re-record over my footage with the new sots.
Thanks for your input todd.
Understand that I’m still a “blind” and illiterate man in the world of video graphing.
I did see some equipment that can gives you both options: SD’s and tapes. I must consider carefully before I invest. (a reason for me being here on this forum)
It will (likely) take a considerable time before I can see any return of investment. It’s (for now) all because for the love it.
You think it’s wise to have a chat with our local broadcast stations about the format and such? Well, I think you’re right about that. I will surely take action on that. (although I don’t expect much from them)
All, for now, will be a “one man show”. Aruba is very small and very few people are into this thing and even less are willing to share knowledge.
You short story makes me understand that I need a little bit more research.
Right now your best bet is to ‘keep it simple’. Since you don’t want to use tape, as Todd told you AVCHD is a funky format to work with, but not impossible. And don’t feel that ‘you’re compromising by getting a PC.’ That mac’s are ‘better’ is a myth and has been for some time. No matter which type of computer you get, to run AVCHD video your Desktop/Laptop will need horsepower which will come from your CPU, RAM, Graphics Card and available hard drive space. It is all too easy to get an underpowered mac or pc if you don’t do the research on what you will need.
So since your intention is to get into ‘videography’, today the time of the ‘shooter only’ is gone. You’ll need to know how to shoot, produce good sound, edit and writing won’t hurt either. The most important thing is to do research! Research your intended camera, audio gear, lighting gear, computer and the software you will use to put all of your hard acquired footage and sound together. Your camera and the format it uses must be supported by your NLE. Same goes for your audio.
Despite what Apple, HP, Dell, Avid, Adobe and a host of other computer and software companies imply, there is no magic bullet or one off solution. You’ll end up using a combination of hard and software that will be compatible with what you are using and your individual workflow. Lastly, when you decide to get a computer, the most important thing to consider is; ‘if anything goes wrong, how much trouble will it be to get it fixed?’ If you can look out the windows (no pun intended) and see the ‘Apple Store’, that’s probably a good hint. But, if you throw a rock in any direction and you hit a PC repair or outlet store, that’s a good hint too! Particularly when you are getting started, no matter what type of computer you have things will go wrong. Having support easy or relatively near at hand will save you many hair pulling sessions (WHY ISN’T THIS WORKING?)
Two really good places to start looking for gear are B&H Photo Video and Adorama. You can google them and they’re easy to find. Also, remember nowadays you do not have to spend a lot of money on a camera to get good imagery. Many of today’s broadcast shows (reality tv, etc.) are shot on really inexpensive cameras. So you may be able to buy 2 cameras that are good for the price of the one you have your heart set on.
Thanks for your valuable input Wolfgang!
Regarding PC or MAC: I’m fortunately not complete illiterate in that department. Post producing and its software are completely new to me. Browsing forums and talking with various people that did / do use both worlds, they all tend to choose the MAC above the PC. Personally I think that I can manage very decent right now with what I have.
Yes, I do need much more research and input regarding the video graphic hardware. I think a $20,000.00 camera will surely be overkill, but I don’t want to start on the first step of the stairs neither.I think I can get myself very decent stuff in the $2,000.00 ~ $3.500 range.
I think I’m quite save in the pre-production and producing area (for there is where my talents are). I think I know what I’m looking for and how to obtain that look, but want to record it with technology that is widely supported and known and usable. Don’t get me wrong, talent or no talent, still I have very much to learn there.
Forgive me that I’m not familiar with all jargon of you videographers 😀
One wish I want to stick with and that’s the ability the record on other mediums than tape.
What about this one: Sony HXR-NX5U NXCAM
instead of this one: Sony HDR-AX2000 AVCHD