Hey guys, its me again!
I am going to do a documentary about bullyng for my ELA class as the school starts, and i have everything that i need : A HD camera, a green screen, a tripod,a good pc with a nle program and etc... but one thing must be solved:
I am going to shoot some scenes where i appear far away from the camera and i am talking, but i have alittle problem, my camera dosent have a mic input...
So, therei was, thinking of a solution when thisbrilliant idea:"and Ifi buy i digital audio recorder with a mic in, record the audiowith a mic when shooting and then tranfer the audio to my editing program and sync it with the video?"
yeah, that's my solution up there....but i need some help finding a audio recorder.
Anyone knows about a CHEAPdigital audio recorder, with usb connection and a mic imput for sale?
Thaks for all the help,
Caio S.P.
olympus has some nice ones
A question...
How mobilewill youneed to beinthevideo?If you will mainly just be standing stillfar away, you might be ableto usealaptop with a programlike Audacitytorecord your audio.Youcan stilluse whatever microphone you were planningtouse with thedigital audiorecorder,but you'll be abletorecord in uncompressed WAVwhich will be a bit higher quality thanthe mp3voicerecordersin your pricerange.
Let usknow howit turnsout. :)
I saw a canon zr 900 with mic inputs for $259.00 cdn.
how hard to hook up a mic to that and use it?
coasts about the same as a digital recorder...
I just picked up the RCA VR532oR for $40.
I'm hoping this will do the trick of letting me have a second audio source.
It has a built in USB connector, stereo pick up mike, mike and ear phone jacks, and runs on 2 "AAA" batteries.
I'm a little worried about only having 64kbps (for 34 hours recording time) but it does export as stereo WAV files.
Has anyone else used one of these or similar? How did it work out?
If your camera isfar enough away that your lips can't be seen...just dub it in to your nle while editing. save yourself a lot of work. just record some ambient noise to make it realistic.
Harry
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I have used a small Olympus recorder in the past - It records at 22.1 khz and that caused all sorts of problems with drift. Try recording a longer (20 minutes) piece on the recorder and your camera and see if you get the same issues I did (I needed to cut up and re-sync every 20 seconds or so).
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You'll be dealing with delay if you use a long cable on a wired digital recorder, and you'll have audio monitoring problems if you're the only person onset recording from either wired or wireless mics of any kind.
I use several Zoom H2 standalone digital recorders and have had NO sync issues on recording up to 2 hours with them. There's also a Zoom H1 and H4 model, and I believe prices range from around $100 to $299 with the H2 somewhere in the middle.
At distance, I wouldn't use the Zoom internal mics because the sound rejection at distance isn't good and you'll get a lot of ambience audio, room bounce, or outdoor issues. The internal mics work best at close mic situations such as podiums or on stands and adjusted for the sweet spots from loud speakers, etc.
Some people swear by them (me) and others swear at them, but I've honestly NOT had any issues with my H2 units that I cannot live with and the audio has always been better quality than on-camera, shotgun or boom mics.
One of the things I have noticed about smaller low end recorders, like the Olympus, is though they are great for recording seminars and personal events they lack sound quality for video. Voices are off and in some cases like they are talking from the bottom of a jaror over a phone.
Definitely test before you use for a critical recording.
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@Earl - Hi! Would you please post a photo of your rigfor shooting & capturing w/ the H2? Thanks. BTW - do you use this in the field or only in-studio?
Hey Caio,
If you've got $100 bucks available get a Zoom H1. You'll definitely need a windjammer on it though because it's too sensitive without one. Wind Tech makes a good fuzzy one for $25, but you can make due with a couple of layers of leather car chamois until you can get a fuzzy. You'll also need a device to hand hold it like a small Joby because even in manual settings, it's too sensitive. I use one to sync audio with my point and shoot. It works really well, just use a clapper or a finger snap on camera while you're recording audio at the same time to set an audio marker and off you go.
There's also a review here @ VM done on the H1. Check out my comments as well.
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Really"Cheap" sound recording options are to be avoided. Your sound is just as important as your picture. Getting a good stand alone sound recording device with a built in mic preampthat usesan XLR connection is a good investment. There are many suitable ones out there. I have and use a Marantz PMD661 and find it works well. A good quality mic is also important.
I think that a good relation between price and performance in digital recorder is the ZOOM H2. it's very popular and cheap, have 4 built that you can use in many ways and you can record in different formats with different resolutions (Mp3, Wav)
I use it for sound effect and music recordings in some cases and i think is great.
Manuel
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I have been the route of the cheap recorders - I now only use Zoom H4N's for any remote recording. Yes, they are pricey however just remember you get what you pay for.
Just my two cents for whatever that's worth.
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