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March 22, 2012 at 9:47 PM #48391AnonymousInactive
Can you use a laptop to edit and render videos with heavy duty editing software like Sony Vegas? I was told that laptops don’t have the desired muscle to render videos. And I’m not talking about an occasional edit with a laptop. I’m talking about using a laptop 24/7/365 or is that a dumb, insane idea? I’m a beginner who’s just starting out so please keep in mind I’ve never rendered a video. I’m so green I’ll admit that I barely know what “rendering a video” means, though I kinda think I do. By the way, I’m a PC guy and a PC guy only and I’d like to request that you, the reader, do not turn this into a PC vs. Apple debate, thank you.
March 23, 2012 at 12:24 AM #198821CharlesParticipant
You can edit video on a laptop but I would suggest the fastest I7 processor you can afford. Depending on what type of format your footage is shot on it may take a while. For example AVCHD is very processor intensive and depending on how you have your settings will take, maybe, 10 times longer to render than that actual footage. I had a footage shot in AVCHD that was three hours long using quad core 2.64 and it literally took 4 days to render and that was without me touching the computer.
March 23, 2012 at 1:09 PM #198822
March 23, 2012 at 3:35 PM #198823Mike WilhelmKeymaster
You can absolutely edit on a laptop. I edited video on my phone this weekend, so I’m sure your laptop will have no problems. If you’re new to video, i recommend just diving right in. After you get a feel for editing you may want to upgrade to a more powerful system. At that point you should have a much better idea of what’s best for your projects.
March 23, 2012 at 5:54 PM #198824AnonymousInactive
Some laptops are capable of handling video editing but it very much depends on what’s inside them. Just like with a pc, if you don’t have the right hardware in place then the software is going to struggle. Talk to a computer specialist and tell them what your needs are and they will point you towards a system with the right capabilities.
March 23, 2012 at 6:20 PM #198825Luis Maymi LopezParticipant
The main problem with laptops are thelimitationsin I/O. For example, my Macbook Pro does not have eSATA and express card, which limit me on purchasing new equipment, such as an external RAID hardrive. Also you can’t upgrade the processor and video card (RAM can be upgraded). Overall, laptops can get the job done, but like others said, redering can take forever.
March 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM #198826AnonymousInactive
Wow the answers you guys gave were wonderful???thanks in part to some???good, specific, rich?details. I especially liked the answers that indicated how long a time it took to render a video on a laptop per the, or referenced alongside, the run time of footage that was captured during that particular editing session (hope I just described that in a way that makes sense). Thank you for helping.
I was wondering something else and if no one takes a stab at it then I’ll understand because my gut tells me that this question might be more for an all around computer technician. Also, we have to keep in mind that solid state drives are expensive which is another reason why this question might go unanswered, which is okay. You see I’m thinking that SSD’s are not a dime a dozen the way hard discs are. Which is a perfect lead in to my next train of thought: I live from paycheck to paycheck. I understand that if you buy a laptop for editing videos it would behoove a person to buy the top of the line I7 processor. A top of the line high end I7 will tack on an extra two or three hundred dollars (maybe more), luckily I can sort of afford the extra cost, and so when the time comes I’ll go ahead and configure a laptop with the bestI7 of the bunch.
On the other hand an SSD will tack on another two or three hundred dollars and maybe more. I was wondering if an SSD would greatly speed up the rendering process, I wonder ifan SSDwould have much of an impact in the life of a person who edits videos. Percentage wise, would an SSD enhance the rendering process around !% (with no real impact, a total waste of money)? Or would it be somewhere around 75% (a huge impact, you’d be a fool not to opt for it)? That’s what I was wondering and again this question may not be easy to answer for the reasons mentioned above, including timing: I don’t think SSD’s are really prevalent in our generationlike the way microwave ovens, cell phones, goldfishand sunglasses are, in other words this question might be easier to answer in 2020(?)
March 25, 2012 at 11:39 PM #198827EarlCMember
My comments, PACIFIC, are strictly opinion based on what I’ve read, researched and heard from others in the industry. The jury is still out on the longevity and overall dependability, lifetime, of SSD. While it truly is significantly faster in the percentile that would make many laptop editors swoon, maybe ;-), it still remains cost prohibitive, speaking for myself, to go that route, particularly based on the uncertainty of the SSD’s life expectancy, rather than its obviously faster performance.
March 26, 2012 at 3:44 PM #198828pseudosafariMember
Pacific, I agree with EarlC on this one, especially if you’re living paycheck to paycheck. I thought about going SSD and upgrading my quad core PC, but when I upgraded my software to Adobe CS5.5, which uses my graphics card for some of the processing, I noticed enough of a difference that I never bothered to upgrade the hardware. Yeah, I wait a bit while rendering the final product, but I edit mostly AVCHD footage and output to HD and it’s fine for me! I’d try it on a “normal” computer for a while, before plunging into SSD. Just my two cents.
March 26, 2012 at 4:20 PM #198829videoworksjhMember
Let’s try this again, I’m new at this. I use a Lenovo W520. I-7 quad. Take a look. I was A dell man for years. But Dell throws a lot of junk in their machines. I HAD to go with Lenovo because they were the only new machines that had FIrewire. Not important inless you need it. I also had a tower build to my specs. at Frye’s 3 hard drive the whole bag. Way to much to speak about here. I run Adobe CS5.5 take a look it has it all. I just didn’t want to have to learn several programs. So I just got the best ( at least that’s what I think) Also it your a newbee that a look at LYNDA. COM if your wanting to learn that’s the place to go. GOOD luck John Henry
March 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM #198830AnonymousInactive
Recently I bought a MacBookPro (2.7Ghz core i7+ 4GB memory), with Thunderbolt port, and added a 1TB LaCie external mini-drive for my Lightroom catalog.
I’m only now getting into video and would like to know if the 10x transfer speed increase that Thunderbolt provides over Firewire will significantly improve video rendering. Apparently I can link up to 6 Thunderbolt-ready devices like that without losing speed (I’ll believe it when I see it 🙂
March 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM #198831EarlCMember
CERF … Your Thunderbolt connection comes into its own via ingesting whatever peripherals you have connected to your laptop, but NO effect on how well or how fast your computer’s CPU renders. Speed of transfer from external devices is certainly helpful but the processor itself is where you’ll have, or not, gains in rendering time.
March 28, 2012 at 6:21 PM #198832sierravideoParticipant
I use an HP DV6 Quad with an i7-2670QM processor, 8GB RAM, 750GB/7200rpm HDD, Radeon HD6770M video card running Windows 7 64-bit with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 for wedding videos and I’m happy with it even though the video card is not approved for Premiere Pro and presumably doesn’t help with rendering. This combination (well, not including Premiere Pro!) costs a little under $1,000, but if you want to burn Blu-Ray dvds it’ll cost about $150 extra. I burn Blu-Ray disks on my desktop.
March 28, 2012 at 9:14 PM #198833AnonymousInactive
Wow! A question I can answer from my non-expert experience!
Yes, absolutely you can use a laptop to edit videos. If you read the comments above you will see that the specific complaints about laptops are about rendering, not editing. I have been editing using Vegas Pro for years on laptops, in really weird places: me and my laptop and my headphones. There is a downside in the editing process – the preview isn’t fast. But that’s all. The benefit is the laptop benefit – you can do it anywhere.
The laptops I have used have all been at least mid-range. I’m currently using a two year old Dell Precision laptop, and honestly there’s little difference between it and a standard $1,000 mid-range box. Sure, it renders faster, but that has never bothered me that much – do the editing, set the render off and go and have dinner, or a sleep, depending on the length of the render.
I can also comment on SSDs: Do it. It’s the single biggest advantage you can buy. I run a software company and our production PCs are now ex-lease I5 boxes that we buy for around $60 (serious) and then we stick a $60 SSD in them. They fly.
Summary: There’s almost no downside in the editing process, rendering will take a while but that’s life. Set it and forget it.
March 28, 2012 at 9:20 PM #198834AnonymousInactive
June 18, 2012 at 2:01 AM #198835AnonymousInactive
Definitely….I’ve been using two laptops for years.
Two tricks help substantially to reduce render time:
The most important is two break down your editing of the video into separate sections, i.e do not render audio, stills, overlays effects & titles all as one massive project. Do them separately. Depending on what you are trying to do, you can make a separate videos of intro & outtro sequences & render them separately for example.
Secondly, disable any memory hungry programs such as anti virus software.(Make sure that you are not connected to the internet of course. Your task manager will ID all programs running that are often unnecessary. Do not run any other programs such as iTunes in the background either.
Mike @ CyberEditing
June 18, 2012 at 2:36 AM #198836david.kuespertParticipant
agree with the above, I have an iMac i7 16gb ram 256 sad 2tb storage and I use it on avchd. it takes MANY hours to render my wedding files especially when I have many filters and overlays.
June 18, 2012 at 12:40 PM #198837birdcatParticipant
I had a Core 2 Duo laptop w/3gb RAM and was able to run Vegas Pro 8 on it – It was slow at times but I could do it.
June 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM #198838MediaFishParticipant
We use HP Envy’s with high speed internal drive (7200 rpm), lots of ram and a high end switching graphics card with Adobe PPro CS5.5. We have done many short films, tens of thousands of photographs and other content editing in the field, on flights home and in the office. The only drawback is they don’t have the 42 inch dual monitors we have on our desktop editing workstations.
June 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM #198839D0nParticipant
anybody got any current info on whether the new final cut x works well with xgrid? I know compressor works..
so it would seem with an airport extreme, ethernet connected multi mac set up you could cluster your computers using xgrid… question is how mauch faster does it work?
September 10, 2012 at 10:03 PM #203943zukatokuParticipant
depending on the specs and the software you’re using, even desktop PC’s can’t render videos if its graphics and performance is to low
September 14, 2012 at 7:48 PM #204095bubskiParticipant
I'm pretty sure you have made youe choice in getting a laptop or desk top. well i use them both and waiting 3-4 hours much less a day or 4 days like one person said, I used to drive tractor trailer so i would take my work with me on the road to have it ready when i got back home i let it render and hit the road and after 6-10 hours of driving it would be ready, ok i was multi-tasking but there was a mistake or something i didn't like with the finished dvd that was 10 hours down the drain. just couldn't do that anymore! that was a hp i got back in 2005 (on sale for $1,000) it was top of the line then and wore out quick. it's sitting in my hardware grave yard lol ! I myself now work with a desk top and this is why. 1 a laptop is gonna get to its limit real quick and if your budget is like mine slim & next to none a good i-7 quad is gonna set you back over a grand. one that you'll really be happy with is gonna be in the 2k area, and you won't be able to upgrade anything on it except the ram/HD! you still have to be near a power source cause as far as i know there is no laptop that has a battery that last more than 6 hr. and thats just to surf, rendering will knock that time down to probably 3-4 hours tops. and the heat generated from it will degrade the cpu. small fans can't keep up beleve me it will. now a desktop you can get started with something in the 700-800 hundred range and as you make some loot put it toward upgrading the desktop i have now a hp with a 3core cpu, running vista (which i hate) and i just added a nivda 1gig gpu. i just finished a standard dvd that is 85min running time rendered and burned in less than a half hour. working on having one custom built, also my advice to you is start with doing sd video (standard def) till you get a little more experience and see if this is what you really want to do. then you can go hi def-Blue ray. now as far as ssd goes I have a few mentors that suggest that ssd's are good for running the system and editing software and thats all they trust it for. plus you should allways put your rendered material on a separate drive, things go a lot smoother. the price of a second rather large ssd drive (you will it large if your gonna do HD footage) would have you taking out a equity loan on the house yea they are that pricey! so with a laptop you would still need to carry a external HD. i have a I-5 hp laptop (that set me back 700+) that i use for my lightroom/CS5 work and showing customers my work thats about it nowdays and my desktop is for editing and rendering video. but thats me maybe you have other reasons that you want a laptop but what ever you deside good luck!
November 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM #205026mr_roberts108Participant
one word edius – real time edit , no render …end of story .
November 30, 2012 at 12:24 AM #205085PibuParticipant
Well, If you want to do professional video editing I would recommend you to use Adobe Premier Pro. Regarding laptop, so you have to use the lates and strongest laptop. The stronger Ram and Graphic card the best is your video editing.
November 30, 2012 at 8:24 PM #205096
While I think it has all been said. I will add my experience.
Yes you can edit on a laptop. But editing on a desktop that is configured with the fastest processor and the right graphics card and at least 8gb of ram, will be smoother and faster than a laptop.
My computer has an i7 and I added another 8GB of Ram to total 16GB. I have learned that an i7 on a laptop is not as powerful as one for a desktop. My computer is almost 1 year old so it is outdated by now.
I use Premier Pro 5.5 and it works well. I have a lot of effect plug ins. Depending on which effect I use the preview window slows down and I can't see the video at normal speed.
And the more effects one adds the slower it takes to export to whatever format I choose.
For example, I have a 2000mm Zoom digital camera and I was taking photos of the moon. One night clouds were passing over and I thought that would make a good shot to insert into something else.
For fun ( at least fun for me) I took 9 seconds and repeated it a number of times, each time I changed the colour of the moon. ( I was curious to see what colours evoked what reactions.)
I added music and had a little video.
I did it quickly so the coloured images are not perfect but it was an experiment.
When I used the Fast Colour Corrector that comes with Premier Pro, it did not stress the system. But I tried something called Magic Bullet Colorista and that slowed things down.
That video if anyone cares is at vimeo.com/54564690
Now after writing this tome. My point would be after rereading your inquiry is,
If you are serious about editing and want to do it 24/7 then get the right desktop and monitor
If you know how to put together a desktop you can save money and get exactly what you need.
I was given good advice about the parts I needed at the computer store I sometimes go to.
Editing with a laptop is more convenient but you will not get as frustrated if you use the proper desktop. Especially if you plan on being serious about this.
If you are just editing things together without doing any special post production a laptop will work.
There that is my 14 cents
Hope you end up with something that makes you happy
December 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM #205101sunshine74Participant
I am looking at Vaio E1411SVE14112FXW 14; Monitor. Notebook Computer 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 13-2370M Dual-Core 6GB of DDS3 RAM (4GB=2GB) 640 GB 5400 Hard Drive Integrated HD Graphics 300…DVD burner integrated webcan Windows 7…I was told that this computer cannot edit…I do a cable TV Show…And want to do my own editing.
can you reply…anyone
December 2, 2012 at 3:19 AM #205106BruceParticipant
I read most but not all of the replies and didn't see one critical piece of information. If you are using Adobe Premiere Pro your rendering speed will be dramatically impacted by the use of the Mercury playback engine with a compatible graphics processor. My desktop has a NVIDA processor that was not on the list but a short Google search let me know how to tell APP that they can use it as long as it is NVIDA and has 1GB of video ram. When I did that the redering time went to 1/4 of the original and I can now edit HiDef in real time with effects.
Now how this applies to the OP question is whether any of the high performance laptops have a compatible graphics processor. If you find one that does you will be much happier. Core i7 and at least 8GB ram will be a requirement and an SSD will probably help but I am using external USB3 and eSATA connected drives with no problem.
December 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM #205130TomsMember
until now I have more confidence in Apple to resolve this case
December 4, 2012 at 9:17 AM #205137
Of course Apple is a great choice, but I think for Mr. Pacific Beach it is also about budget.
Unless there is an older Apple laptop that would do the job.
December 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM #205227CinimageParticipant
Yes, You can absolutely edit on a laptop. It depends the RAM and Processor of Laptop , so I'm sure your laptop will have no problems if You use I7 Processor.
January 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM #205742
January 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM #205744
Hi Creekhouse Productions,
If you can let us all know, what are the specs on your computer?
And if you don't mind sharing what it cost that would be nice.
I just built a desktop for editing because that was much cheaper than replacing my current laptop which is fast enough for editing but bogs down when too many effects are added.
Thanks very much
P.S. I had a couple of questions about stock footage and was wondering if I could go to your site and ask them or should I ask them here?
January 20, 2013 at 4:01 AM #205752paulearsParticipant
The only downside is storage. To edit multi streams of HD needs quick disk access, and plenty of empty space. My Macbookpro is now down to just 30Gb of spare space, and I don't have anything I can remove without inconvenience. This means constant archiving to external drives and this takes time. It also means that for some projects with long, big files, it slows down. when it had plenty of space on the drive, it edited video brilliantly – now, bulging with data, it's not so good. I'm considering opening it up and putting in a new drive just to get it going again.
January 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM #205759
That is an excellent point. It causes me to remember the advice of a Computer Tech about the overall
speed of a computer. He said it is best to have about 25 percent of the HD free so all the programs would run more smoothly. Of course I find that hard to do.
I just built a PC Desktop for editing.. I put in 750GB C drive and a 2 Tereabyte secondary drive to keep my video files on.
I also have to keep putting video files on a rapidly filling external HD
Thanks for reminding me
September 16, 2016 at 8:57 PM #214547lekeishawhiteMember
From the date that it was posted, I assumed this has been resolved already. But for the benefit of all, the simple answer is YES. There are laptops that can handle video editing software such as Adobe Premiere, Wax, Avidemux and the like. I’ve seen many good and highly recommended video editing laptops at http://www.laptoprunner.com/. Just choose the right specifications such as high RAM, high Graphics/Video card.
September 19, 2016 at 9:31 AM #214558
This thread does need an update.
Using a laptop for video editing and professional video editing is possible and not overly expensive.
The right specs are found in gaming computers. I finally purchased a new laptop after Christmas as I finally came across one that had a 1920X1080 resolution
It has better specs than the top video computer on laptoprunner.com The site is worth the visit as it explains the details well.
I purchased a Dell Inspiron 7559 at Best Buy Canada.
It may go by another name or be no longer available but since dell builds to specifications you can get something like it or better.
i7-6700HQ 2.6 ghz which is a 6th gen intel processor.
came with 8GB Ram but I added another 8GB
1 Terabyte HD
No optical drive.
It was 1,199.00 Canadian
2nd 8GB about 70 Canadian.
I have Adobe CC and use Premiere Pro without any problems.
The laptop website says that the newer i7s 4th generation up are what one needs to do professional grade editing. I am not a professional but prefer to use the best I can afford.
September 19, 2016 at 8:55 PM #214563David DotyParticipant
Howdy Pacific –
Laptops can work well – but make sure you get one that has the internal space for 2 hard drives because all kinds of problems can happen if you try to edit on one drive. Also – nowadays it seems that most laptop manufacturers are only using 5400 rpm drives – editing video works best with 7200 rpm or better hard drives. Solid state drives do make a significant difference but depending on budget you can get by on 7200 rpm regular drive. What will make render times go down significantly is having a 4 gig Nvidia card in the system. I would also spec i7 processors, a minimum of 8 ( and preferably 16 ) gigs of memory, USB 3 connectors, and an SD card slot, Questions – holler back.
July 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM #215795YoKappaKappaYTMember
Yes you absolutely can with the right settings on what you’re planning to record I do gaming videos and usually around 15 – 30 min videos sometimes 45 and it only takes about maybe 30 mins to render and maybe 1 h at highest so just dive right in to sony vegas editing it isn’t going to hurt I personally game on my PC and edit on my laptop so it wont affect my gaming performance when rendering 🙂
July 18, 2017 at 1:08 AM #215841BreendaParticipant
I have the same question. After reading these reviews, i know the answers. But i have one more question, can i play Blu ray disc on Laptop?
July 18, 2017 at 1:09 AM #215842BreendaParticipant
I have the same question. After reading these reviews, i know the answers. But i have one more question, can i play Blu ray disc on Laptop?
July 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM #215852lindameansMember
sure you can
November 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM #205093leifParticipant
one word edius – real time edit , no render …end of story .
EDIUS is great-
GrassVley/Canopus have some very efficient codecs running very smooth on the pc – changing to Edius feels like having a major hardware upgrade. And you can play your video direct from the timeline without stuttering.
Price is very reasonable and you can start with the Edius Neo (light version) at less than 200 usd which is almost identical to the full version of Edius. If you later realise that you need the full functionality of the full version you just pay the price difference plus a very small extra fee (about 10 usd).
December 2, 2012 at 10:32 AM #205113
I am not an expert. The only way I can help is based on my experiences and what experts have told me.
You say you are looking at the Vaio. If that means you have not bought it, then I don't think you should.
If you already have it, then you can download an editing software for the trial period and find out what you can do with it.
But broadcast quality video takes up a lot of MB and GB's. You could edit video with that computer but I can't imagine you could edit broadcast quality video.
Also you would have to use a simpler video editor. As I think I mentioned. I tried Premiere Pro CS6 and it was very slow on my laptop. I went back to the CS 5.5 version and if I keeep it simple it works very well.
As you know, Laptops with the same specs as desktops are more expensive. The same amount of money spent on a desktop will get you more. The person above seems to have an excellent system. I don't know how much it is.
But I just checked on my processor and it is i7 Quad core and when I keep it simple it works great. When I add too many effects in post, it slows down. I love my computer but would love to afford a desktop to make post production easier.
Although I think I will try exporting to my exterior 3.0 USB hard drive to see if that speeds up that process.
After all that. I will emphasize what I said at the top. If you have not purchased the Vaio then either check out what kind of desktop you can get for the same money. If you know how to put together the parts of a computer. I taught myself. It's pretty easy. Buy the shell and the motherboard and CPU and whatever there are instructions. Plud the internet has plenty of places that show you how to do things.
Plus do some more research, what format is the footage you will be editing? How many MB's does it take for 1 minute. The higher the number the less chance you can edit with that Vaio.
You can most likely edit SD video with older editing software.
Professional editing seems out of reach of the Vaio.
Those are my thoughts, if you have any other questions, send them off.
December 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM #205114
IGNORE THIS I accidently posted the same comment twice and can't delete it. so this replaces it.
December 2, 2012 at 11:51 AM #205116
I just did some research and entered in the Sys Requirments of Pinnacle software which are aimed at consumers. And Sony software which have a range from consumer to pro.
I hit the wrong buttone and it dissapeared so I will just give the websites I found it at and you can check out what they have and the sys requirements.
When you get to the software description page. click on specifications.
these and I believe all editing software companies offer free trials
December 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM #205115
I will try rendering to my USB 3 exterior HD.
What is a Mercury Playback Engine? I don't think I have one and have not heard of it. Along with many things I have not heard of.
December 3, 2012 at 9:25 AM #205124BruceParticipant
The Mercury Playback Engine is a component of Adobe Premiere Pro from version 5 on. It has both a software only mode and a hardware accellerated mode using certain graphic processors. My Dell has an OEM NVIDA model which is not on the standard APP list but I found a site that gives instructions on adding it to the list. That worked fine and I am editing much faster now. I know that there is at least one Mac laptop model that has a compatible graphics processor and there are very likely ones for PC laptops as well.
December 4, 2012 at 7:50 AM #205135
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