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Ding's picture
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Dear all,

I am a new videographer, and I just established my own video produciton comany. When I uploaded a few my works on youtube, I got email form youtube and says content ID matched with my video or some of the music in my video is own by sony music recording company. you tube says that they will not take action this time, but I am worried next time they will ban me out :-(

Also, Since I am doing commercial business, any video DVD I made for my customer has copyrighted muisc content inside. Even those muisc are Legally downloaded from I TUNE, I still need to buy the copy right for each song or a yearly contract for all songs. Where can I buy it?

What about photos, if I buy the pictures from fotosearch.com, can I put them in my conmercial video?

Thanks for all your help in advance!

Ding


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Smart,

Music 'legally downloaded from iTunes' are for individual personal consumption only. iTunes and other services like it are 'consumer based'. That meaning you purchase the permission to listen to it, not use it for anything else. Used to be you could use stuff like that under the 'fair use' guidelines long as you didn't try to repackage the work for sale.

Your client did not have the rights from Sony (the rights holder) to use said music in their video. If they do which I doubt, they need to produce the documentation asap. Those DVD's you made with that illegal music carry a penalty should Sony move on you with litigation for selling them without their consent. Each disc they prove you sold carries an individual penalty which according to copyright law will be held against you the distributor. Average penalties for each instance of infringement run upwards of $50k.

The 'Tube actually did you a favor by blocking your upload which brought this to your attention. Your best bet is to 'can' all the finished DVDs with the illegal music on them asap. If possible, you should recut the video to royalty-free music as to avoid this kind of costly amateur mistake. The good thing is you caught this in time and asked questions here.

Yes, when you purchase photos, music, graphics and so on from services like fotosearch or whatever, make sure you read the fine print on what you can and cannot do with the materials. The main things to look for are 'royalty-free', 'without restrictions' and 'without time limits'. The legit services and vendors will have most or all of those phrases in their 'eula's'. If you don't see any of those phrases, move on to a service that does.

H.Wolfgang Porter, Composite Media Producer Dreaded Enterprises Unlimited, Inc. www.dreadedenterprises.com


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If you run a search on these forums for "royalty free" you'll get a plethora of sources for royalty free assets of all types (music, graphics, stock video & photos, etc...).

Bruce Paul 7Squared Productions http://www.7squared.com


Ding's picture
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Composite 1 and birdcat,

Thank you 2 gentlmen! I am admire for your knowlege, and I will search for Loyalty free meterial for my video production.



ccardell's picture
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For affordable royalty-free music that you can use for commercial purposes and legally on YouTube, you might also try MusicRevolution.com https://www.musicrevolution.com , an innovative online marketplace for royalty-free production music. I amthe co-founder.


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Joined: 05/05/2010 - 7:00pm

You can look for free music most are under creative commons. Since you are using this for commercial projects, I would suggest you purchase from royalty free sites that provides you with a license agreement. you can provide youtube with your license agreement to substantiate that your music is royalty free and that you have the rights to use them.

I suppose you will be using music frequently seeing you are in video production and perhaps sites that offer CD options are good so you can build your own personal go to library. Sites like http://www.opuzz.com/, http://www.royaltyfreemusic.com/ or http://www.musicbakery.com/ are good places to start. Opuzz also offers hard drive options with complete library or part of their library on it. Downloads are good too but won't be as cost effective on the long term. CSSmusic has a hard drive too but it is quite a bit more expensive compared to Opuzz.

For sound effects, I would look for sound bible. Heard it is from one guy but the stuff is excellent.


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Photosearch links to various outlets. You should look at the usage policy, i. e. Editorial, Personal Use, Right-Managed or Royalty Free. The latter gives you the option to commercially use with stipulated limitations - check the fine print. istockphoto.com is a huge source of cheap royaly free images.



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I'm compiling all the websites I find with the best quality but lowest price music, photos, images, sound effects etc for all to use on my blog at www.cinebasics.tumblr.com.

I've found some great soundtracks for under 4.00, for example, which is half what istock charges. There's a ton of musicians out there who are more than happy to let you use their music for cheap. I sell footage and photos on iStock and they can be expensive. If you are just starting out there's many cheaper resources out there. The track I used for this job cost me 14.00 which is the most I've paid in awhile. http://cinebasics.tumblr.com/post/3922857846/film-coverage-teaser-for-denver-film-societys#disqus_thread


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Digital Juice is my go to place for royalty free music. I own every music track they have produced, which the exception of their Worship Series (which I will eventually buy) and one the the Backtraxx. Their music is customizable and very affordable.


MediaFish's picture
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I use videoblocks.com for royalty free audio, video, and still stock photos.

Jeff Media Fish Productions



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Here's a few really good places for royalty free music that you can use in your productions.

http://www.thetunepeddler.com
(warning - shameless self promotion..) Thetunepeddler.com is a subscription based production music library that has had music used on the Discovery Channel, History Channel, Nat Geo and others. You can download all the tracks you want for a single fee. It's quick and simple and is constantly being updated with new tracks. Check out our "Free Tunes" page for some complimentary tracks.

http://www.gregvmusic.com/royalty_free_music.html
?Greg is an in-demand musician in Nashville so you know these tracks are gonna sound great. They are mostly guitar oriented tracks but there are a ton of different styles. Also, they are free with credit given

http://www.incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/
This site was started by Kevin MacLeod and it was one of the most talked about sites I found when I was doing research for my site. The tracks are totally free, however he has a donation button if you would like to support him. Definitely check this one out.


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When using music you are supposed to pay copyright fees. Even if you have a shop that plays background music off a radio or cd, you are supposed to pay someone.

For more info in paying copyright then visit the MCPS here: http://www.prsformusic.com/USERS/Pages/default.aspx

Other than that there are loads of royalty free music out there from places like Digital Juice.com, or video copilot.net etc. Or you could even contact the record company directly which can be hard work, but not impossible.

Hope that helps





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even those of us who deal with copyright clearance frequently still have trouble doing it correctly - it takes a considerable amount of effort to get it done. As mentioned above, plenty of copyright free music is available - but the description is confusing. Copyright is never free - in terms of there is no copyright. Somebody has the rights and they can allow you to use it free if they wish. Others advertise copyright free music and then charge you a license fee. Youtube and Spotify and the rest sell you music, but if you really read the contract terms, they're just selling you the right to use the music for a specific purpose - you don't own it at all.

 

UK TV adverts, that use music and show it to millions of people usually re-record the song with sound alikes - they then only have to pay the composer, not the record company or the artistes who recorded. So that's a kind of 50% discount - ish. We produce our own music, 'in the style of', but different enough to be considered a new product. We then charge them assign them the rights for a specific period, after which, it reverts to use for potential future use, although that's rare. 

 

Clients always say they want to use X music. We then say fine, and we get a price for the useage, finding out it's almost the same price as the entire project means plan B, and we then charge them a lot less for something we produce ourselves.

 

Depending on the purpose, it can be cheaper to pay somebody to play a piece of 'older' music on a grand piano than something modern.

 

As for youtube - I wouldn't worry. The only pain is when the identify commercial music, they slap an advert on it for many composers/record companies, who get the money - they only remove the audio or whole thing when the work in question is on their do not use list. Sometimes they will also ask you to confirm you own the copyright if their software detects a probable, but not certain match. Only repeat serious offenders get banned.


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Ding

I'm a bit surprised you have started a production company without this basic knowledge.  Copyright, whether images, audio, or video clips by others, and even sayings and quips can get you in big trouble.  That, and having a library of waivers for client, talent, and all to sign is the very basic must-have for all production companies.  If you do weddings, the bride will want "her" music for their dance, soundtrack, etc.  Can't do it!!  Even the traditional "Happy Birthday" song is copyrighted.  There are some ways around it, but it gets complicated and expensive.  One way is to tell clients the synchronization rights (which is what you buy - meaning you can only sell or distribute (even YouTube) with the audio if it's inside a video (prevents you from producing and selling CD's to compete with them))  will cost $10K or more, just for one song, plus your regular production costs.  That might be a bit high (or maybe not), but it makes the point to your client about how expensive using copyrighted music can be.  And the huge hassle.  Sometimes the song is owned by one entity, such as Sony, and it's a one stop buying process.  Other times you must get OK and pay the song writer, arranger, producer, artist, etc.  On the other hand, you can get permission from some bands or artists to use their ORIGINAL (only) music.  (and get it in writing)  I have such permission from two artists who produce scuba songs, but sometimes they create new lyrics to copyrighted melodies and they can't give permission to use those.  Original music and lyrics only.  There are some good free music sources.  One is military bands.  Each military base and such as the Air Force Adademy and all the others, have not just marching bands, but string quartests, orchestras, and many more.  They have mp3's online and are careful to only make available old classic songs out of copyright.  Another is archive.org and check out old recordings.  Some cylinder, 78's, etc.  Most are out of copyright, but you must check each song.  Some are capable of being copyrighted, but can be used with "attribution."  Means just give them credit and point listeners to their website or source and you can use.  As a small production company you're usually under the radar, but knowledge and caution to clients will put them on notice you are a true, knowledgeable professional.  Of course you want your videos to go viral - and that's when your p's and q's had best be perfect.  And you do know about getting permission and often paying to shoot on different venues - such as in a building, even a public park MAY require permission for commercial production shoots.  And a business license (often for each city you work in), and insurance, and .....    Good luck on your new company.

 

Here's a sample of free music I used - the opening is music from the Air Force Academy.  The video is too long, but was made for fly-in participants not general public; listen to the first couple songs and get the idea.  https://vimeo.com/107101162

And...  Vimeo is usually less hassle on these issues than YouTube ; )