Video Card recommandations...

(7 posts)
  • Started 4 years ago by Esplanade77
  • Latest reply from AnglingDesign

  1. Esplanade77
    Member

    Hi!

     I'm a videographer, not a professional one, but I make some money here and there with little contracts for videos/documentaries.  I don't make millions, but around 2000$/year in jobs.

    What would you recommand in terms of video card (graphic card) for my computer ?

    People recommanded me nvidia and ATI.  I'd like to know what you guys who work "in the business" think about it.  I have some budget (up to 500$) for the card.

    Also, is 512MB the standard in the industry ?

    I would also love to have an output for HDMI on the card.  Is it possible ?

    Thank's for any input!

    Jean

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. Ken
    Member

     Jean,

    Since it's been over a year since I last bought a video card, I'm not up on the current models.  But ATI and nvidia have always been good cards.  You should probably get a card that plugs into a PCI-Express slot in your computer.  I'm using an ATI with 256MB, but then I'm only doing standard def.  Since you mentioned HDMI, I assume you're gearing up for high def. Probably 512MB would be good for that.  For an HDMI port, I think you need to get a special interface card from BlackMagicDesign or AJA (in addition to your regular video card).

    Other things to consider for high def are plenty of system RAM (many recommend 2 MB, some say 4MB for optimal performance), a separate hard drive for the video files (some say to get a RAID array of hard drives to handle the high bandwidth, but I think that's mostly for capturing HDMI high def directly from the camera to the computer).

    Good luck,

    Ken Hull

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. Esplanade77
    Member

    Thank you very much Ken!

    Is there any difference between PCI & PCI Express ?

    Yes, you are right, I'm gearing up for hi-def.  I recently did a documentary shot with my very good (but not HD) camcorder (Panasonix PV-GS300) which I simply love, but once I saw the result on my HD TV, I wanted to throw it away!  I'll let few months go by to see the prices going down on HD Camcorder.

    Yes, I was thinking about buying a video card with 512MB on it.  With my luck, the very next day I'll buy it, there's gonna be a 1G Video card on the market! :)

    So basically, you mean that you must have Premiere (or any other NLE) on one drive and your project and data on a different drive ?  Does that make such a big diff in rendering/saving/working with the project timewise ?

    Thnak you for any advice, young man!

    Jean

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. Ken
    Member

     Jean,

    PCI-Express is a faster interface than regular PCI, so it's ideal for high-bandwidth applications like video cards (or HDMI cards).

    The reason for having your video data files on their own hard drive is so that video recording or playback is not interrupted by the hard drive having to stop and get some system file or load a program file. (Remember that modern computers are complex, multi-tasking machines, doing all sorts of things in the "background" while you're working at your computer.)

    Ken

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. Esplanade77
    Member

    Ken,

    Merci beaucoup! (being said with my french canadian accent!)

    You are a brain on two feet! :)

    Jean

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. Zeus
    Member

    Hey Jean, FYI. All new graphics cards support HDMI, it's just called DVI on a graphics card. All you need is an DVI to HDMI adapter and plug it into your TV. HOWEVER it is worth note that hooking a TV up to HDMI from a computer does not give good quality. When plugged in VIA HDMI a tv does some weird sampling and it makes the picture look bad. Best bet is to get something with a DVI or RGB input. As far as graphics cards go, you don't need anything fancy. the card rated with the best price/performance ratio atm is the Nvidia 8800 GT 512 mb, currently $268 on pricewatch http://www.pricewatch.com/video_cards/geforce_8800_512mb.htm. Or you could go for an nvidia quadro or ati firegl, but the extra cost it's really worth the performance.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. AnglingDesign
    Member

    "Hey Jean, FYI. All new graphics cards support HDMI, it's just called DVI on a graphics card. All you need is an DVI to HDMI adapter and plug it into your TV. "

    Not entirely accurate as HDMI allows audio to stream through the connection where as DVI is purely video. With a DVI->HDMI converter all you will get is video output through the connection and not see any difference than if you were using a straight DVI cable. A true HDMI connectable card will have some sort of sound processing function either incorporated into the GPU chipset or via a seperate sound processor built onto the card.

    With regards to the cards themselves, at this present time, I have seen nothing better value for money wise (unless you are going to be playing games a lot on the system as well) that can knock the ATI Radeon HD38xx family of cards as a consumer item. The FireGL cards are fine if you wish to pay a fair bit extra for a couple of extra pipelines being open on the card, but 99.9999% of users would not see any difference.

    Another thing to bear in mind is the amount of video RAM that is on the card compared to what you have in the system already and the operating system used. If you are using a 32bit operating system with a large amount of RAM (3GB+), the maximum amount of memory addressing space is limited to 4GB including the video memory. As an example, if you had 2 x 512MB cards in the system and 4GB of system ram, the addressable memory would would be 1GB of video memory + 3GB of system RAM (as 32bit systems reserve at least 512MB of the upper memory band for system resources such as video card memory and any additional non-system memory requirements takes priority over system RAM in the upper memory band allocation). This was proved to me a few years back when a customer wanted a PC built with specific components that they had 'researched' & wanted 4GB of RAM with a 512MB card. When the 512MB card was installed in the system, the amount of addressable RAM stated within the OS was 3.2GB. With a 256MB card fitted, the amount of memory rose to 3.5GB. This is where a 64bit OS is beneficial in regards to the significantly higher amount of addressable memory space & higher memory capacity on the cards themselves.

    Personally I have found that most of the cheaper cards will be loaded with higher amounts of memory to try to make up for the lower performance of the chipset (as well as trying to convince the non-technical buyer into buying it over a slightly higher priced card using a better GPU with less memory on it). With regards to video work, a higher spec GPU with faster GDDR4 memory of a lower amount is better than a lower spec GPU with more slower memory.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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