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Good job Joshua!

unless it was intentional, you could have used a bit more light on the close-up shots in the church.

however, good flow and has the important parts/sections!

Robert


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 Thank you very much.  Yea, the low light was really disappointing.  It was either low light or they had two spot light that shot straight into the cameras on their wedding lighting, really wish I could have used some lighting of my own but the church didn't allow it.  I think the only thing that could have really fixed it in that situation would have been better cams. 


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What could be interesting is to nudge (just a bit) the gain and gamma in post when they light the candles and then do it a little more when they light the unity candle.

I only spent a few minutes, but something like this (much more refined - this is a rough cut): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G42d19GZp0

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 As a non-professional, I thought your video was excellent!  If I were getting married and had seen this demo, I would hire you in a heartbeat.


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 Thanks for the tip.  I haven't mastered lighting yet in post so I try to get it setup during filming.  Learning curve I guess.  Thank you for compcomplement Bill, that means a lot.  Hopefully this will be the first of many demos I share.


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HiJoshua

Just paying itforward toall thepeople that took the time to critique our videos when we first started...without the advice we originally received we wouldn'thave improved. With that said,Hereis my feedback

You have nice steady shots (except 2:14-2:19)which is really a hard thing to teach :) However:

1. More of a personal taste but not a fan of zooming in a little, stopping, then zooming again

2.i knew that you had some lightingissues with the church which is out of your controlbut i noticed that the front of the church is lighted to some degree..not sure why your front cam did not pick it up.

3. Overuse of the cross dissolve -technically it is designed to be usedfor two different shots so dissolving within thesame shots and framingdoes not make sense.

4. Not surewhatstyle you are going for but generally wedding videosare about capturing details (and emotions)which your demo lacks. You need to vary your shots by including some close ups since most of your shots are wide.How you get these shots,whenyour options are limited, comes down to planning. This is evenharder to do if you are aone man operation.

The one measure i always tell my team isthat it comes down to creativity and storytelling . This is what separatespaid vendorsfrom someone who can just puta camera on a tripod and record away.. and then there is the editing part which is another matter:)

These are things that you'll probably learn moving forward..good luck!

Cheers!


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 Thank you for those tips. I will definietly put them to good use. The bad lighting I think had more to do with the fact the static cams were pointed into the light source and weren't near as high end as my HMC-150 that was shooting from the chior loft and from behind the light source.  I was actually a groomsmen in that wedding and had to have my buddy film the couple coming into the reception which I found out in post can't hold a camera still to save his life haha.  It was an experience and I am glad and greatful for eveyones tips and advise. 

Thanks again


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Hi Joshua

There is no shortage of wedding videographers, but you will generally find most of the business going to the top 5% and the rest picking up the scraps. It takes a willingness to learn (which you clearly have), persistence, a bit of creativity and lots of preparation.

I take it you were aware of the lighting restrictions in advance. If so, you should have made an opportunity to get into the venue a few days in advance, at more or less the same time at which the ceremony was to be held, in order to work out optimal camera placements to make best use of available light.

Your roving cam was also under-used and, as Kren mentioned, you really needed to get more close-ups. I think you missed a good opportunity to get some face shots during the processional.

Apart from that - good job!


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ANOTHER thing it takes, but is grossly overlooked, is the 78+ percent of the wedge of the bridal video pie where prospective customers are NOT sold on video.

It never ceases to amaze me that, given the talent, the tools and the experience, that five percent (maybe 10 percent) AND the other 90-95 percent are all fighting to get a taste of the 22 percent, give or take, of the bridal market where they are already SOLD on having a video of their wedding produced. These guys are competing on creativity, giveaways and price, and sometimes some unique aspect of what THEY do that nobody else does ... yet.

Give it time though, every GREAT new creative bent soon becomes a clich as more and more non-creatives jump on the FEATURE wagon. Started with strobe, went to the color bouquet with everything else black & white, to slow motion, extreme slow motion, love stories, bridal elegance, and now of course EXTREME depth of field with DSLR rigs and multiple lenses for CREATIVE effects.

All well and good. BUT, if ANY PVA, group or other association that professes to "support" the wedding video production industry could wrap its collective minds around the simple fact that there's a market out there that isn't even being considered ... the 70+ percent who don't want, don't think they want, or THINK they couldn't care less about having video of their wedding ceremony, event, reception or day.

A campaign that somehow would bring in this significant chunk of NON-business for video producers would not only boost the upper scale professionals, perhaps even increase the overall perceived value of video production, but spread a good bit more wealth and business around to the other 90 percent of the wedding videographer base.

Instead, everyone, well nearly everyone, is vying for that small wedge of pie, the EASY targets (in that they already KNOW they want video) but the hard targets because they have a boatload of producers from amateur, hobbyist, cheap or affordable and inexperienced, to well-funded and equipped and extremely capable/creative experienced professional to compete with for a very small taste of what's possible.

The day the industry-at-large discovers that a campaign like "Got Milk" or "Where's the Beef?" is started that convinces the unconvinced brides (and their grooms) that video is "all that" AND a bag of chips, is the day the wedding video services industry is going to burst wide open and spread the wealth of a multi-billion-dollar industry to MORE of us.


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I like it. I had the same problem with my first wedding a lighting. Had to boost it in post, but it is a good start!


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@EarlC your on to something here. I was actually just thinking about this the other day--making some sort of video that would promote wedding video in general. I work for a video studio part-time where we do weddings and various other video projects, and when I first started there I thought the weddings were kind of fun, kind of cool, and definitely a place to explore creativity where the general public doesn't necessarily expect it. But after working there for a while and doing a fair share of weddings (both shooting and editing) I've realized that I love it! And on top of that I got married this last August and of course we had the studio I work for do our wedding and I can't imagine not having that keepsake. In my opinion wedding video should be one of the top 5 things considered when planning a wedding (I'd even place it over photography...if the budget came to cutting something that is). Unfortunately the general public doesn't see it that way...hence my consideration of the wedding video promo.


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How many cameras did you use on this? Or I guess the better question is for us beginners would be how many cameras should be used?


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 I used four cams.  Three static and one up on the chior loft following the action.  Since I've only shot one wedding I can't really say how many should be used.  I liked the different angles I got but it can be a pain to get everything synced up.  I used a remote flash instead of a sound spike to sync the four together.  Worked pretty well.  Really depends on what the couple (Bride) wants, how much they're willing to pay and how confident and comfortable you are using multiple cam setups.  Oh and don't forget what the church allows.  The one I shot in was pretty strict, they wanted all cams out of sight out of mind.  No lights, no movement down front. 


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Hi Joshua, My name is VanJ I am trying to get restarted on doing weddings again. I did wedding videos back in the VHS/DV days. Now that I retired I have a lot of time to get more involved. Have done a demo yet, training myself with the new updated equipment I purchased. That wedding was a challenge, but I like it. No movement down front, wow. How many operators did you have?


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Van again, I just read all the above post. Thanks for posting, I need all the advice I can get just starting out again.


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 Hi Van,  I only used one operator and did a lot of running around before and after the ceremony.  I'm sure there are many less stressful and easier ways of doing it.  As stated in the post, my biggest issue was lighting.  Sometimes you just do and get what you can with what's handed to you.  The important part is to let the couple know what to expect and try to meet their expectations.


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Was there no way to get the videographer a front row seat to the actual wedding?  Just seems like the camera was so far away from the action of the wedding.  Potential shots that could have been beautiful, such as where the bride is being escorted down the isle were lost to distance.  Where are the reactions on the faces?  Most of the participants are seen from the back or side or at a distance.  That's true for most of the video.  

 

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