Amateur at wedding video-please help!

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  • Started 6 years ago by Rocktooloud
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  1. Rocktooloud
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    Can anyone give me some suggestions as to how I should shoot the bride coming down the aisle? I've only done one wedding video, and it was for a relative (for free as practice). The only thing I overlooked was how everyone stands up when the bride enters and exits. How are you guys/gals shooting it? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. compusolver
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    RockToLoud - I applaud your desire to learn to do this right, but I have concerns also -

    I wish that every couple who was thinking about having a friend or relative shoot their video would first look at a few professional wedding videos or demos. At least then they would know what they're going to be missing. My fear is that some couples (and some friends with camcorders) don't realize that there is a tremendous difference.

    I would strongly urge anyone that before they accept money for a wedding, you spend time studying the wedding video craft from the Internet (there is a link to some excellent info on one of these boards), from books and from reviewing other wedding videos and demos from your area and others.

    You will learn, among some of the technical things like where to position cameras, that you cannot do a decent wedding video with only one camera and that you need to have a 1 Lux 3CCD cam and be good with your NLE as well as your camera handling.

    Then, and only then, should you seek some FREE wedding jobs. And only after completing the last two or three with complete success should you begin to charge a fee.

    Well, that's a lot of verbiage and I didn't even answer your question. I see from the number of posts you've made that you probably have the video experience (thankfully). Find that post on these boards (I don't remember where it is) with the links to wedding video advice. It should give you all you need. It will print out to about twenty pages or so.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. compusolver
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    I found that link, Rock -

    http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/wedding.html

    Posted by Brian Alves.

    Check this one too -

    http://www.eventdv.net/

    They're running a great series of articles that will give you lots of help and ideas.

    Sorry about the lecture above - but there are a lot of people who read these boards and never post who probably needed it.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. Rocktooloud
    Member

    Compusolver,

    Thanks for your resources and your concern. I really appreciate it.

    Any other information anyone???
    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. TheDVshow
    Member

    You're the person with the camcorder, you're the one getting paid, you're the one who wants a referral for the next wedding on what a great job you did....

    So stand with your camcorder right in front of the altar, on a tripod ready (not fully extended but balanced and centered) to fold up quickly and your camcorder zoomed in on her as she enters. Kneel down and support your camcorder if you have to.

    When she starts walking closer to you start zooming out SLOWLY keeping her within frame as she gets closer and closer.... keep one eye on the viewfinder and the other eye on her.

    Right when she reaches the 3rd pew start moving away- physically get out of there to the left or to the right so you can get her kiss her Dad and join hands with the groom. After you get this you have enough time to set up your next shot before the officiant starts talking. Leave the rest to editing.

    Now, you don't have to be so "on the edge" just get her walking down that aisle- maybe move out of the way when she reached the 10th pew...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. compusolver
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    You can't put an entire book into one of these little posts, and Brian is right, to a point, but I would caution that the bride & father is not going to be the first group coming down that isle and those people are going to need to get past you without tripping over a tripod leg - and there's often not room for a tripod in front of the altar - in fact, in my experience most people do not want you to be that visible.

    Further, you cannot do justice to a wedding with just one cam. It takes two at a minimum and three is much better. If you have a cam at the back, you don't want either cam to be in shooting view of the other - which is another reason not to park a tripod in front of the altar. (I just spent the other evening taking a tripod leg out of about twelve hundred frames of video, using Photoshop - a dreary task, indeed!)

    While Brian shows going either left or right, I would go left (from perspective of this drawing) to get the best view of the bride, who will be to the right, from this perspective.

    PS - Rock, get some demo videos from people who are in this business. That'll get you going.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Rocktooloud
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    Brian,

    Thanks for the helpful info!!! I also like the drawing. Helps me visualize it.

    Compusolver,

    Thanks for your caution. I wouldn't have thought about that. That's also a good suggestion about the demo videos.

    Also I forgot to mention, I will be using at least 2 cameras. My friend just bought an XL2 that I might be able to borrow also, so that would make it 3 cameras. Another thing: I will be the only one filming. The other two cameras will be unmanned.

    Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Now all I have to do is get my hands on some wireless mics...
    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. compusolver
    Member

    One last thing -

    A major problem in many chapels would be your Lux rating. While an XL-2 is a great cam (one that I would hesitate to leave unmanned without the National Guard standing by), it is not a 1-Lux cam. Go several days before the wedding, bring cams and check lighting, cam positioning, etc.

    I only use 1-Lux cams at weddings.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. Rocktooloud
    Member

    Thanks again for the advice. I agree, Lux rating is very important. My GL2 is rated at around 4-6 Lux however for some odd reason is does really well in low light...but the XL2 is not rated better than this. And I will be manning the XL2; it will not be unmanned.

    Btw, I checked out your demo and I like what I see. :D
    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. BTS
    Member

    I've done 2 weddings (by myself), for free for friends or relatives that were not going to get a videographer anyways, so in other words, low expectations. While there are a few obvious professionals already giving you teriffic advice, I have just a few recommendations, from a fellow amateur:

    1. The more cameras the better. I used 3, one of them set up inconspiculously behind the altar on a mini-tripod.

    2. Pay extra attendtion during the rehersal and put down tape strips on the floor to mark where the wedding party should be standing. This way you know how tight you can zoom in and not risk missing the couple in an unmanned shot.

    3. Wireless for sound (seems like you've got that already)

    4. After the ceremony, take advantage of the picture time that typically follows and get some extra shots. For example, get a ring exchange close up, get a walk-by of the wedding party standing up. Basically, any shot that you probably couldn't get during the ceremony without being very intrusive.

    5. Reaction shots from relatives are great. Try to sneak up close to the right or the left to film the parents, or set up an unmanned camera that films the congregation. This is much easier with a handheld, though.

    Those are the little things that I can think of at the moment.

    Have fun!
    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. Video-maniac
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    Rock,

    Good food from all of these guys. The thing I always preach to others is to shoot as much video as you can. Make sure you capture the important elements from as many angles as possible. The idea of using the photo session afterwards is an excellent one. You can get great additional intimate head shots here along with other various b-roll shots. You can even create poses that you can use. The more video you shootÂ… the better off youÂ’ll be when looking for that one special scene later in post.

    The magic really starts in your edit bay when you start putting it all together. Here is where you can make or break the entire project!

    RAM
    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Rocktooloud
    Member

    Thanks for all your help, guys!

    Just an update: I shot the wedding, and everything went great! One thing I do on my premium wedding package is a 4 minute overview of the wedding set to music at the beginning of the video.

    Since I really respect you guys as professionals, I want your honest opinions about my overview.

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    Thanks again!
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Video-maniac
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    Rock,

    Not bad! The camera angles were very good. The only thing for me is that you might need to watch the titles. There needs to be a little more contrast difference so you can see them better. They kind of blended into the back ground. The other thing is that my eyes were actually watering on some of the blurr effect shots. You can use that but don't hold it to long. Also... don't be afraid to throw in some black and white in there. That is always a hit and I think it is a very neat effect.

    Now of course this in just my humble opnion. The couple will like it!

    RAM
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Rocktooloud
    Member

    RAM,

    Thanks for the tips! I'll definately take that into consideration on my next project.

    Yes, the couple loved it! So much that they immediately bought 5 extra copies!
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Endeavor
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    Very nice! Just a couple editing suggestions to polish it up a bit for next time (btw excellent job not overusing transition effects): When you dissolve between shots try not to dissolve from one "zoom out" into another "zoom out". It looks kind of off (there are times to use that but for the most part, try not to). Also, try to start the dissolve after the zoom move starts. It's usually best IMO for zoom shots to start and continue the zoom through the entire clip (not that you cant have shots that start a zoom in the middle or vice versa but I usually try to avoid it). Good job using slo-mo. Works great on highlight vids! You have alot of talent! Keep it up!
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Rocktooloud
    Member

    Endeavor,

    Thanks so much! I'll be sure to remember that when editing zoom shots.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Endeavor
    Member

    No problem! It's easy to tell when someone has a natural eye for this sort of thing and you definitely do! BTW sort of a side note, I have noticed that the higher end clients will pay more attention to your talent and the quality of your work rather than the number of years experience you have. The lower end of the market knows they can't get the best quality so the best they can do is "How long have you been in the business". There are alot of older more "experienced" videographers who have scores of jobs under their belt but every one of them lacks the professional talented aspect. But we both know that experience has less to do with the quality of the video than your natural talent. Also, when you get established, make sure you don't charge less than you're worth just because of lack of experience. I started out at the low end of the market and discovered that people were passing me up because they thought "cheap = crap". Once I raised my prices to match the high end clients, they associated the price with quality and started calling! (That doesn't mean charge more than your product demands. Look at the competition in your area and rate your quality against your competitors. Then price accordingly). Actually, I think I still may be priced low. I have competitors who charge more than me that couldn't hold a footcandle to what I can do but at least I am in the high end bracket.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Rocktooloud
    Member

    Thanks again, man!

    EDIT: I meant above, not below.

    I totally agree on everything you just said above. I think a lot of people tend to underprice themselves and get taken advantage of. I priced very very low on this job just because it was one of my first weddings. But now, that's all about to change!

    I feel like I should have a website up or something. I'll get moving on that.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Endeavor
    Member

    Yeah! If you get a website set up you can list it for free with a bunch of wedding sites that will give you free leads. There are alot that will charge you and some of them may be worth it but at least get started with free ones! And I totally agree that you may want to do some cheap or freeuntil you get enough behind you to show that you are good. Sounds like you are off to a good start!
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • Rocktooloud
    Member

    Will do!

    I'll post again once my website is up.
    Posted 6 years ago #
  • faqvideo
    Member

    May be too late, but worth checking anyway:

    http://www.faqvideo.com/bride-aisle.html
    Shoot-It-Yourself Wedding Video Guide, http://www.faqvideo.com/siy_book
    Posted 6 years ago #

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