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SargeHero
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Hello people of Videomaker

I have this terrible confusion to which NLE should I used for my future projects. At this moment I use Sony Vegas Pro 8, I know it from top to bottom and I really like it a lot. But as good as Vegas is I feel that I need to move on to another NLE...but which one? From the most popular NLE that I have read or heard: There is Vegas Pro, Premiere, Final Cut and Avid. As a Vegas user I wonder, what difference does the other NLE have that I cannot do in Vegas? Of course Avid is the beast of editors but what difference would it make if I have knowledge using Premiere, Vegas and Final Cut? I consider this; I will be editing video with many people and not everyone will have Avid (or a Computer powerful enough to handle it) but there is a possibility that they will have one of the other NLE and if I know how to use them all I will have advantage. (Of course I will have a preferred NLE) Another thing that make me write this topic is regarding to Avid. I was looking over it and is really awesome, powerful and all, but when I get to look at the price I almost die ($2495.00 is a lot of money) I keep searching and I found out about the academic price $295.00 and since I'm a student, I apply and now I'm awfully confuse, what should I do? On the other hand I will also buy the Adobe Master Collection and a Apple MacPro. Its a lot of stuff I know. Its because I'm starting a business about video and graphics designs and I'm looking for the best things. At this moment I'm looking for information, learning at much as I can on how to use camcorders, improving my editing skills and learning how to use other programs. Since in video you need high reputation I consider that my clients will judge me by the NLE I used, the camcorder and of course the quality of my project (which will be near perfection) This is all in the long run and we are preparing a plan of action (where and how to invest, etc) So, back to the original question, which NLE should I use?

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Posted 2 years ago #
birdcat
Moderator

I loves me my Vegas! I have looked at others but none have the ease of use to powerful features ratio that Vegas has. Many professional editors use Vegas as their second NLE because it's just so quick and easy to do things.

I considered Avid's Media Composer and Adobe Premiere Pro but for the money I just couldn't see a good reason to move.

Bruce Paul
7Squared Productions
http://www.7squared.com

Posted 2 years ago #
TDedmonSBP
Member

I think I am the only premiere user on these forums, ha ha. I used to use vegas, and to be honest I think it's a great program. The thing that draws me to Adobe is the things that you can do with after effects and some of the other programs that can be used with it.

I got started with Adobe back in college and I think that has a lot to do with why I still love it.

Bottom line, everyone has the stuff that they love and the stuff that they hate, if you can grab some stock footage of some old project of yours and throw it through some free trials, you could easily find which program you like the best.

Posted 2 years ago #
XTR-91
Member

If you have a Mac, I'd recommend Final Cut Pro. It appears to be the most expensive, but seems to provide the most features, effects, and productivity than the others (having little experience with only Final Cut Pro).

Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

Sarge,

Potential clients will judge you on the quality of your work, how efficiently you get it done and how well you stay within budget. Realistically, there are potential clients who will judge you on whether you have pro gear or not and rightfully so if you're charging in excess of $1k per minute of video per project or more. It does help to mention names industry people are familiar with (Avid, FCP, Premiere, Vegas, Media 100, Grass Valley, etc.) On occasion you'll get individuals who may be turned off by the workflow you've chosen because they don't see how your's may be compatible with theirs. However, you cannot and should not base your intended workflow on client expectations. You'll have to establish a work pipleline that best suits your skills, talent and budget. I've worked with an ever-changing pipleline that has included multiple brands of cameras, OS's and NLE's. Though I love Avid, they've currently priced themselves out of my reach for the moment. So, since '07 my outfit has been using Vegas and since I'm a longtime fan of Forge and Acid the switch was seamless. However, we're also back to using Premiere since we've picked up the Master Collection. I've used many of Premiere's earlier versions and this one's not bad and I have used Phoshop, AFX and others for years so it's a nice fit. Why would we have two different NLE's in the same shop? Why not? The do similar things but the workflows are different. I happen to think the finishing process for VFX and Mographics with Adobe is far superior to many other workflows. But, the finishing process for scoring and audio post for Sony is second only to Protools and for the money blows everything else out of the water.

You're saying you balked at $2.5k for Avid but you're getting the Master Collection ($2.5k) and a Mac Pro ($2.5k +)? If you're going with a mac setup, what about FCS 2 ($1.3k)? Also, if you're transitioning from PC to Mac do yourself a favor and make sure your old system is in good condition so you can keep producing product while you're adjusting to the learning curve of a different OS and a massive new software suite. We've had MC for almost a year now and I'm just putting a dent into it despite having used an number of the programs included since they've come out!

H.Wolfgang Porter, Composite Media Producer
Dreaded Enterprises Unlimited, Inc.
http://www.dreadedenterprises.com

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

"if you're transitioning from PC to Mac do yourself a favor and make
sure your old system is in good condition so you can keep producing
product while you're adjusting to the learning curve of a different OS
and a massive new software suite"

About using my old system, I though about using it only for Vegas and some other programs (Microsoft Office, Internet,etc) and I don't want to eliminated Vegas of my life just because of the OS. I will be transitioning from PC to Mac pretty soon, but Vegas does
not work on a Mac. I heard that you can use Windows on a Mac, will
Vegas run without any problems?

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

"The thing that draws me to Adobe is the things that you can do with
after effects and some of the other programs that can be used with it."

It its true that you can use some of the Adobe programs like if it where one? Something like importing some finish product from After Effects to Premiere or from Photoshop to After Effect as a project file of the program and without the need of rendering the video or image? (If this isnt true, I have no idea where I heard it)

Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

"I will be transitioning from PC to Mac pretty soon, but Vegas does
not work on a Mac. I heard that you can use Windows on a Mac, will
Vegas run without any problems?"

Sarge,

I lament at your succumbing to the 'infidelic' influence of the 'Evil Mac Hegemony'. We will ring the bells at sunset at your loss.

All kidding aside, yes you can still run windows aps on a 'Bootcamp' partitioned Mac. My fully immersed crossplatform collegues say it's buggy, but it works. However, I don't see the value of using a dual OS unit no matter what platform. You're going to have your hands full with all the mac software you'll need and relearning short cut keystrokes and wait until you go through the dragging files from a disk to the desktop and the rude awakening that they didn't do a 1-1 copy, that's always fun. Or my favorite, if you lose or accidentally delete a file, it's gone baby gone. There won't be any of that silly going into MS-DOS prompt to find it either. Your thought about keeping Vegas on your old system is a good idea. Despite, mac's so-called 'intuitive interface' you're going to have a few hair pulling sessions until you get the hang of the software. I work in the mac environment on occasion and it's always a 'fun' time getting reaquainted with the overpriced fruit. However, it's an experience I suggest all serious editors subject themselves to. Anyone so-called pro who can't go from one system to another to do their work isn't much of one.

Yes, you can import projects up to a point from one another in Adobe CS3+. Adobe is trying hard to make their pipeline a one-stop-shop. They dropped the ball audio wise with Soundbooth. It's a nice intermediate tool, but it can't hold a candle on a windless night to Sound Forge or Acid.

Posted 2 years ago #
jerronsmith
Moderator

"It its true that you can use some of the Adobe programs like if it
where one? Something like importing some finish product from After
Effects to Premiere or from Photoshop to After Effect as a project file
of the program and without the need of rendering the video or image?
(If this isnt true, I have no idea where I heard it)"

Adobe has a system that they call Dynamic link. The goal is to create an interchange pipeline so that you can take content created in one of the programs in the suite and open it's native file format in another. With Dynamic link you can create a project in Premiere Pro and import the unrendered Premiere file directly into after effects and place it inside an After Effects Comp. Premiere can import unrendered After Effects as well. Dynamic Link basically can be used to move project files between Premiere, Encore, After Effects and Soundbooth. Additionally, After Effects and Premiere both have the ability to import native Photoshop (PSD) and Illustrator (AI) files though this has been a function of the programs for a while and isn't technically a part of the Dynamic Link feature. If you are using After Effects for motion graphics work you can create layered content in Photoshop and Illustrator and import the individual layers into AE as a composition. This allows you to animate/edit each layer individually, offering a wide range of possibilities for the creation of dynamic content.This interoperability and the time saving features it provides is one of the kay selling features of the Adobe Suite.

I run a dual boot on my Macs using bootcamp and havent' had a problem yet, tough I know of colleagues who prefer parallels. The one problem with Parellels is that is does not support using firewire devices as far as I know. Composite1, a good reason for a dual boot is that not all software is freely available on both the Mac and PC platforms so sometimes there may be no choice in the matter.

Jerron Smith
Editor-Animator-Educator
blog: http://www.thepixelsmith.blogspot.com

Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

"Composite1, a good reason for a dual boot is that not all software is
freely available on both the Mac and PC platforms so sometimes there
may be no choice in the matter."

Jerron,

To paraphrase the mac mantra, "Get a PC."

Yeah, I know. I hear that all the time. I personally find dual boots a PIA as issues like the one you mentioned about firewire and then some programs are optimized for a specific OS or CPU like Vegas. I don't know anyone who would bother to put Vegas on a bootcamped mac. It'd be interesting to see if it worked though. Though you can run PC software on a partitioned mac (and now mac software on a partitioned pc. Bet old 'Stevie' wasn't expecting that one) as an economical option, it defeats the strengths and weaknesses of both platforms. I personally believe it would be in everyone's interest that software be crossplatform. I like the fact that no matter which I'm using, I can collaborate with others using the same software. Makes my job so much easier.

Posted 2 years ago #
jerronsmith
Moderator

I think we should scrap them both and just all run Linux.

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

"I think we should scrap them both and just all run Linux."

JAJAJA you are right, but Linux is so unknown to the regular society that Linux should come up with some extreme propaganda, with a completly new OS (better than Mac and Windows) and make a huge lie telling that is completly "Virus Free" (That something I love about video, you can manipulate people minds with tons of craps, lies and people believe it. Does BUY STUFF commercial. Who BRILLIANT idea was that?) From the computers that I have seen that run Linux, they have some powerful programs for doing research (I love the meteorology programs, so powerful, so exciting)

HEY, I cannot believe the Poll results so far. I thought that Final Cut will have been in first place at all times.

Posted 2 years ago #
jerronsmith
Moderator

From what I have seen from this forum, there seem to fewer final cut users here than Vegas users most of the time.

Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

Final Cut is an excellent program but unlike the other 'majors' only mac users 'use' it. Avid and Premiere being crossplatform have a much larger following among both industry pros, independent pros and amatuer users. Colleges, some government agencies and higher-end botiques are growing the numbers for FCP, but these posts seem to have far more of the 'average joe-jane' participating and most of them don't have the cash to go full-bore with an all-mac setup with software and supporting gear. Vegas on the otherhand, can be put onto a reasonably adequate PC that many people already have. That's a tough act to beat and Apple, Adobe and Avid better watch their backs. If Sony ever pulls their head out and make the Vegas Suite crossplatform, look out.

Posted 2 years ago #
jerronsmith
Moderator

About which editor to buy:

To preface this I am not unbiased, I have used both Final Cut Pro and Premiere Pro for many years and have never touched Vegas.

If all you are gong to do is run your own business as an event videographer or independent producer it really doesn't matter. Any non-consumer level NLE should work for you in that case. If you need to do more than edit footage however, if you plan to create graphics as well (either moving or static), if you plan on using digital distribution or publishing content to both a disk based format (SD or HD) and web based delivery, then you should probably go with the Adobe suite. The fact is that Adobe makes most of the major graphics/design programs on the market and has been an industry standard name for quite a while. The integration between Photoshop, Illustrator, AfterEffects, Premiere, Encore, Soundbooth and Flash is very well thought out, and it is that integration that is the major push in the latest release of the program.

However if you are looking to work with/for an established production company or studio you will probably want to work with either Final Cut Pro or AVID. if you are looking at the highest end of the spectrum you should definately go with AVID. Pretty much all highend film, network television and highend cable uses AVID. A lot of independent film, and lower end TV and cable, advertising and institutional video productions use FCP. Premiere and Vegas aren't even on the map in those industries as far as I know.

Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

Jerron,

You are quite correct with your assessment concerning the levels of industry NLE uses. However, Premiere and Vegas are starting to make their inroads. 'Superman Returns' offline edit was done with Premiere and the Discovery Channel's 'Survivorman' is cut with Vegas (belive it or not Les Stroud switched from FCP.) Indy doc filmmaker's are starting to use both to complete short and feature films and I have seen a growing number of narrative films at festivals cut with either. I believe both premiere and vegas are at the point FC was at vs Avid in 2002-03 when it came to what got cut on it. I've cut short form training films and a narrative short on Vegas and am working on an internet series with premiere. With the tech advances these days and how much less investment is needed, it's much easier to cut and finish a production with excellent production values than say 5 years ago. As you know, it's the online process where the 'heavy lifting' for finishing gets done. When both Adobe and Sony work out the online workflow for finishing we'll see both programs cut deep into Avid's and FCP's market share.

To see examples of the narrative short go to: http://www.dreadedenterprises.com/HOST

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

"If you need to do more than edit footage however, if you plan to create graphics as well (either moving or static), if you plan on using digital distribution or publishing content to both a disk based format (SD or HD) and web based delivery, then you should probably go with the Adobe suite"

Practically almost all that we will do in our business will be web based delivery. But we are planing on doing Podcast, graphics desings and publishing DVD and possibly BluRay (which costumers have to pre-order a copy) Our video productions will be concetrated in just one area (College Students) and we will use does massive life consumers (Facebook, Myspace, Twitter) to have a huge propaganda and increase our audience potencially. Right now we have a WebPage that is under severe construction (changing from HTML to Flash) and is going to focus on our business specifications. We are definetly going with the Adobe suite and to make CGA (if its strongly needed) Blender will enter our lifes (this is one extremely difficult program but with two minds, hundrends of hours of tutorials and errors we will learn to use it)

Composite1

You are working on a internet series, do one need certain permissions to make a internet series? (even if its wacht from the owner web page)

Posted 2 years ago #
jerronsmith
Moderator

>>Right now we have a WebPage that is under severe construction (changing
from HTML to Flash) and is going to focus on our business
specifications. <<

Given your audience, many of them may be accessing your content on phones and other mobile devices most of which do not support flash, or only partially support it. A heavily flash based site may be a hindrance in a situation like yours.

Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

"do one need certain permissions to make a internet series? (even if its wacht from the owner web page)"

Sarge,

You were 'breaking up' at the end there. If I caught your question right, when you develop your own original content you don't have to permission to do so. When you incorporate previously copyrighted material (such as characters, specific buildings, etc.) and it's not a parody, you'll need to get the copyright holder's permission to use it.

Jerron,

I've found deciding on which format to use is a tough one. As we are redeveloping our company website, the plan is a mix of html, css and flash video and or wmv or qt for longer high quality SD and HD clips. I'm not fond of all Flash sites, but flv is getting to be the most popular format.

Posted 2 years ago #
jerronsmith
Moderator

Composite,

While all modern browsers will support the flash player and the great majority of internet connected computers in the primary US and European markets have the player the use of flash either as a part of a site or for the entire site makes alot of sense.The advantage is that it is a single technology to address content, structure and interactivity, instead of having to rely on multiple ones as you must now with an HTML site.

The problem is that the use of portable devices like iphones and blackberrys to access the internet is rapidly growing. Some expectations are that they will exceed computers as the main way for accessing internet based content. The major problem is that many of them don't support using flash or only offer support via the browser which often only use older players. Were you planning on duplicating the video content in both WMV and Quicktime for mac and pc users?

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

Jerron

I never came to my mind about providing my content on phone and other media devices. I really don't know if this will be entirely successful or not since not everyone in our audience have access to portable devices. In order to do this I will need to make a Cost and Benefit analysis and several surveys to see how many people have access to it and how they will like to see our content. And yes, we are going to make it accessible mostly WMV for PC users (since almost everyone use Windows OS) but also in quicktime for does very few people that have Mac.

A heavily flash based site may be a hindrance in a situation like yours.

You are right and in order to view Flash web pages at its best, the internet speed must be fast. This is what my brother had told me (he deals with web and graphics designs. I deal with video productions and editing) and he considers the internet velocity that our audience will have, which is base with the one we have, that really sucks (We cant wait to upgrade our internet speed). There will be a link in the page for the video productions and other links for the rest of the business. He knows how to use HTML and Flash, how should he build the video segment of the page considering the internet speed of our audience? And if its possible to use the Adobe programs for live internet feed?

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

When you incorporate previously copyrighted material (such as
characters, specific buildings, etc.) and it's not a parody, you'll
need to get the copyright holder's permission to use it.

What do you mean that if its not a parody? That like does movies that make fun of the others (Meet the Spartans, Scary Movie, etc) So, if its possible to make a parody out of a copyright movie without dealing with legal implications or do one needs to let the owner of the copyright know about it?

Posted 2 years ago #
designcbts
Member

Back to your original question, I would recommend you consider AVID. I'm primarily a Premiere user. However, most studios seem to prefer the AVID platform...

Posted 2 years ago #
jerronsmith
Moderator

>>I really don't know if this will be entirely successful or not since
not everyone in our audience have access to portable devices.<<

You realize that more people in the world, not to mention your specific audience (college kids) have mobile phones than computers right? With a market that is as mobile as college kids what you will probably find is that a large chuck of them are going to be accessing info on the web via phones, blackberrys, etc.

>>And yes, we are going to make it accessible mostly WMV for PC users
(since almost everyone use Windows OS) but also in quicktime for does
very few people that have Mac.<<

I'm sorry but that might not be a very good idea given your stated audience. You realize that Macs are very popular with college kids right? Apple's marketing targets them specifically and has make their laptops very popular on college campuses. I would seriously caution anyone against using WMV's on the web to display video, the most common video format for online video distribution are FLVs. Since all it needs to play is the Flash player which most computers online already have, and the player is cross platform there is a much lower chance of your viewers not being able to see your content.

>>He knows how to use HTML and Flash, how should he build the video
segment of the page considering the internet speed of our audience?
And if its possible to use the Adobe programs for live internet feed?<<

To keep the size of Flash content down what most developers do is dynamically load external flash content into the main movie. This way the viewer doesn't have to wait for the entire movie to load, only the parts they want. I don't believe that the technologies in the suite will work for live internet video feed.

Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

Jerron,

Yes, we always make copies in .avi and .mov. The prospect of having to make all the content available for mobile devices (though annoying) is a necessary step. Personally I'm not fond of trying to view webpages on my phone, but I do regularly look at content on it. So, the inevitability of it all moving to the 'tiny screen' can be seen in the coming winds.

Sarge,

Yes. However, there still has to be enough 'difference' between what you do in the parody and the original work. For example; there is a big difference between doing a parody and a 'fan based' work. Parodies are protected as they were originally used to criticize government rule which is why it's generally seen as okay that comedians make fun of public figures but not public figures making fun of other public figures. Fan based works are 'what if I wrote the story' type of stories like the popular 'Star Trek','Harry Potter' or 'Lord of the Rings' ones. The only things different about those stories are who wrote them and the actors used. Both parodies and fan based works are legal, but you can only get compensation for a parody without violating copyright. For example: SNL does parodies and they get paid to do them. When the Wayans Bros. created 'Scary Movie' they totally parodied 'Scream' and other popular horror films and got paid for it. If those guy making the fan based Star Trek films take a dime from advertising or merchandising, despite the original writing they've done they will be in violation of copyright.

So, if you create your own material and copyright it the only permission you need is what you give. Now to be fair, this is totally off topic but the whole purpose of buying NLE gear, software, camera gear and asking bazillions of questions in these forums is to facilitate all of the stuff Jerron and I have mentioned.

Posted 2 years ago #
daryldrj
Member

Hey all just a quick note I read on the vegas fourm that the New Vegas 9 would be compatible with Avid, or at least that is how I remeber reading it might be worth taking a look I already pre ordered my V9

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

I totally went off topic but from your answer I now have more knowledge and a clear understanding of which NLE I should stick with. Jerron is right, the Adobe suite is definetly right for me and for my purpose. I have to thank Jerron for introducing the portable device dilema, it had become part of our business plan and is another excellent way to market our product and always have our audience happy. And thanks Composite1 for your excellent answers and patience. You clearly state that Vegas is an excellent NLE and I was a little bit upset with Vegas since in my Cinema class many people use Premiere and saying that Final Cut is great and all and me the only Vegas user remain strong with the fact that Vegas is awesome. In the end the one editing all the proyect is me and Premiere user are surprise at how easy and powerful Vegas is. Im really happy with Vegas.

Posted 2 years ago #
SargeHero
Member

Now I want to make a brief about what Vegas Pro 8 have and what I consider to be powerful and helpful features. (People that deals with Final Cut and Premiere, feel free to describe them briefly)

Vegas Pro 8 was the third NLE that I deal with (1.Windows Movie Maker 2.Cyberlink Power Director 6) Some of the I love features are the no limit video and audio tracks (you can change the name of each one) , dual monitor (makes your life a lot easier), the track motion (with a 3D feature) and Pan and Crop tools. The one of the most helpful feature that Vegas has is the autosave project (many projects I haven't completely lost because of this) Vegas is easy to use (after you spend hours with tutorials and a lot of practice) and gives you the advantage to create almost anything you want. The Color Correctors, Levels, Brightness and Contrast are some of the many powerful Video FX that can amazingly improve or fix your project. The chromakey is easy to deal with and can be make near perfect using other Video FX.Of course if you do not light right the greenscreen it would look bad, but even with that Vegas can manage to give you a good keying. While doing the Keying, color correction, etc, using the Video Scopes helps you fix more easily a video and gives you a complete idea of the light and colors of your video (this tool is extremely helpful) The multicam feature is great (it takes a little practice to dominate seeing many videos at the same time) and you can make a project draft just by pressing the Cam angle that you want, which are easily change by clicking in the clip in the video preview window or by pressing the number of the cam on the keyboard. Another good tool is the trimmer, easily making subclips and marking a place or region that you want in the project (which is seen in the timeline clip) By far the most amazing feature that I consider to be the best is the markers and regions. This amazing feature let you mark an specific frame or second of the clip and name it any way you want. You can also make a region of the clip and use it or move it any way you want around the timeline. I consider that Vegas have everything you need to edit video and have powerful tools to edit audio in the same timeline. You can even edit in 5.1 Surround and among so many features that Vegas have that will be way too long to describe in this forum. Check out this video to see more about Vegas Pro

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/video/video.asp?file=commercial/whyvegaspro&title=Why+Vegas+Pro%3F&VideoPref=

Posted 2 years ago #
zoobie
Member

I know...but sometimes, Vegas Pro seems like a toy to me. The editor I really liked, Corel/Ulead Media Studio Pro, stopped production but is still available. It doesn't work on Vista, was simple, and now has been discovered to work on Windows 7 much to the relief of it's owners. Unfortunately, MSP had codecs and other things that weren't deemed "professional". Oddly, Video Studio, the entry level editor, is now the only editor made at Corel/Ulead.

You can mostly download a demo of any editor you wish to try...I've tried most...seem to be about the same...except for the codecs used.

Guess that's why I'm sticking with Vegas Pro...it's codecs and it matches my cam to boot. It also came with DVD A.

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Posted 2 years ago #
composite1
Moderator

Sarge,

I recently updated Vegas to 8.1 for 64-bit. It's a touch buggy particularly when it comes to capturing. I'm eyeballing ver 9, but the upgrade price is much steeper than usual (ver 8 $99, ver 9 $200+.) We'll see. As for the folks in your class, I've seen that 'surprise' in Editing courses too. Some folks gain mastery over one nle and are unable to see the advantages of others. As an independent, you will not have the luxury of a 'one trick pony'. You're going to have to develop your own workflow and it will be made up of many different types of software and gear. As an indy, your primary task is to get the work done and do so by the most efficient and economical means. Moving from platform to platform and nle to nle before you gain mastery of any one first will hinder you from that task.

Zoobie,

Hmm, I've never thought of Vegas as a 'toy' before. I guess because I had worked with Acid and SF for so long, the interface was familiar but strange initally doing video with it. My Editor and I got over the 'newness' quickly and found it to be a high-end tool which in intermediate to skilled hands could turn out an edit with some high production values. Vegas seriously needs to incorporate real-time fx rendering to make it a fully 'pro' tool. However, you are so right about it having good codecs. I recently cut a commercial on Premiere but was having a helluva time exporting it out to .avi and have it be compatible with WMP. Quicktimes came out just fine. Finally, I had to export an uncompressed .avi and compress it to WMV in Vegas. Which worked out great because it kept the file below 2MB and still managed to keep in good quality. Premiere doesn't have the .WMV codec installed. If I didn't have both programs I wouldn't have been able to solve that problem to my standards.

Posted 2 years ago #

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