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dnathan
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I've read that if HD shoot is rendered in 720p and burned to a normal DVD, the HD quality will be there on a normal DVD player, and that the only downfall is that you get about 15 minutes. Can anyone provide the technical side of this and/or feesability? I don't mind burning several DVDs if I can get the quality I'm after.

-Dana

Posted 5 years ago #
compusolver
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Charles Fulton wrote an excellent article for VM a few months back, where he went into detail about DVD capacities, bandwidth, etc.

I belive you'll find that the current DVD specs do not allow sufficient bandwidth for HD. Frankly, I'm no expert on this subject and I was hoping someone else would tackle your question. I have more guts than brain, so I'll continue..

Even if you could somehow put the "quality" onto the DVD, you couldn't get it into your TV/monitor because there are no connections that would carry the proper signals except those made for hi-def, which naturally don't connect to standard DVD players.

Dana, I think if this were somehow possible, people would be doing it.

Now, it IS possible to put it in Windows Media Format for hi-def, save it on a DVD and play THAT on your computer, but I haven't tried this yet either.

Where IS everyone??? It echos in here!

Posted 5 years ago #
bsuratt
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It is possible to put even 1080i content onto a standard "red" DVD using the standard "red" burner in a PC. However, it must be played back on a HD-DVD or BLU-RAY player, not a standard DVD player. You get about 23 minutes on single layer, double that on Dual Layer. Picture quality, if smartrendered, is just like it came direct from camera.

Posted 4 years ago #
xmaslts
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Yes you can burn hi-def 1080i/720p video onto regular dual-layer (DVD-9) discs and they will play perfectly in your HD-DVD player. Each disc can hold up to 36 minutes of 1080i hi-def video.

There is an article on how to do this here -
http://www.weddingvideodoneright.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=100

Posted 4 years ago #
Kevin Shaw
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As others have noted you can store high-definition video as data files on a DVD, but that won't play in standard DVD video players. This is because DVDs can hold any kind of information but standard DVD players only recognize SD video content in a particular format, not HD.

You can currently distribute HD video on data DVDs for playback on computers, the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360, Divx-HD video players and maybe a few other options. The amount of video which fits on a disc will depend on how you encode it and what type of disc you use.

Posted 4 years ago #
Jockey
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dnathan Wrote:
I've read that if HD shoot is rendered in 720p and burned to a normal DVD, the HD quality will be there on a normal DVD player, and that the only downfall is that you get about 15 minutes. Can anyone provide the technical side of this and/or feesability? I don't mind burning several DVDs if I can get the quality I'm after.

Only if the player specifically supports HD formats like WMV-HD or Divx-HD. In theory, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray formats can also be supported using traditional DVD transport, but I don't think this will ever be implemented by anyone. Manufacturers of players have to pay royalty fees for every device sold, so creating a sub-$200 player that uses standard DVD transport but is able to play disks with HD-DVD/Blu-Ray data layout is not commercially sensible. There won't be any significant number of DVDs with HD-DVD/Blu-Ray data layout anyway.

So again, your best bet is playing WMV-HD or Divx-HD files off a regular data DVD. Look for players that explicitly support this format and bitrate. There are few of these available, search at divx.com.

Standard DVD players (and I mean, as standard as they come) will NOT play HD files.

compusolver Wrote:
Even if you could somehow put the "quality" onto the DVD, you couldn't get it into your TV/monitor because there are no connections that would carry the proper signals except those made for hi-def, which naturally don't connect to standard DVD players.

There are a lot of sub-$100 players that have HDMI output or hi-def component output.

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Posted 4 years ago #