http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Topic: final cut pro vs adobe premiere pro en Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:30:19 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-73730 Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:02:59 +0000 Grover Richardson 73730@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello everyone! I've been using FCP for about 5 years now and I love it! However, I do use certain Adobe products as well like Soundbooth and Affect Effects. I find FCP is little bit more user friendly for me although, if I had the time to really sit down and learn Premier, I am sure I would like that as well!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-71860 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:44:56 +0000 Dennis 71860@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have both FCP and Premiere installed on my Mac Quad Core 14GB Ram. </p> <p>I hate using FCP, by the time I've set up my project in FCP I've nearly finished it in Premiere. Just seems to take ages to do anything and the constant rendering is a massive pain. </p> <p>I also find Premiere accepts a lot more file formats with out having to process them or requiring extra codecs. In short FCP is strict were as Premiere is very forgiving, which for a beginner is ideal.</p> <p>But like everyone said it's a taste thing. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-71038 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:23:19 +0000 Jaimie 71038@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I love these religious-type arguments!  If it is so hard to decide which software/platform to use then it doesn't matter which one you choose because they are about the same.</p> <p>Personally, I have used different brands over the years and have come to the conclusion that the most important feature is reliability.  The system that starts up every time, runs hour after hour, day after day without crashing, slowing, blue screening or exhibiting the endless variety of performance degradations that NLEs are prone to is the one for me.</p> <p>All platforms are difficult to learn but offer great creative possibilities if you climb the learning curve.  But nothing stifles creativity like frequent crashes or glacial-speed performance after you add a few effects etc.</p> <p>Currently, I'm running CS5 on a high-end Windows 7 machine and it is very friendly.  A friend who runs the latest "big Mac" with FCP says that performance problems with earlier systems seem to be fixed and he loves his newest platform.</p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>Jaimie</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-71036 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:38:58 +0000 Jackal 71036@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'm just a hobbyist but I haven't edited in a long time. I'm a PC user but I used Macs while in school so I've used FCP and Adobe. I like them both but if I was going to as a profession I would invest in a High end Mac and use FCP. But since I'm just getting back into this stuff for fun I'm going with CS5.5 for all the package has to offer. </p> <p>I actually came over here to find a topic about capture cards and saw this topic. I built my new PC for Vegas Pro but I think I'm going to go with CS5.5. FCP and PP both have their pros and cons but I guess, for me, it's about what kind of projects I want to do and budget. I haven't done any of this stuff in so long that I'm going back to square one. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-70985 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 06:06:19 +0000 grinner 70985@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> No.</p> <p>Because yu can pick your render settings in all the apps you listed.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-70984 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:50:26 +0000 Ramzes 70984@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi Guys! I have a quick question. I am a PC user, so I use Premier Pro and Sony Vegas for my Editing projects.Some people say that Final Cut Pro is much better in render quality than other editing software's.Please explain is that true or not, and why? Thanks</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-69826 Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:12:49 +0000 Tony Segreto 69826@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yeah, their both pretty equivalent.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-69813 Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:50:39 +0000 grinner 69813@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> in this case, it shouldn't be a vs thing at all. Heck, they are both cheap as hell. Get em both if in a decision tissle. Time is dimes.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-69759 Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:59:04 +0000 Tim Kline 69759@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thats almost a given that the Adobe Systems are taking over.  I have worked on Sony Vegas, and Final Cut........and now Adobe Production system.  Adobe is way more versatile and with the dynamic link, you can move to and from Adobe Premier, Adobe after Fx, Illustrator and Photoshop.  Once you learn the Adobe System it makes life soooo much easier.   All of our new videos are done on Adobe, including the After FX.  </p> <p>Check out some of the Videos we did, and be sure to hit the Linear Black Box video for the Motion graphics in After Fx</p> <p>Thanks.  Tim</p> <p><a title="Videos using Adobe" href="http://www.fourtenvisuals.com">http://www.fourtenvisuals.com</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-69736 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:44:32 +0000 Fadly Hussin 69736@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'm sure by this time, you would've already bought FCS or APP. Just make sure to be wary if you purchased the notorious Final Cut Pro X though. I like both softwares, both for their own reason. Why I like fcp is because I grew up with it, hence It's very intuitive for me, I also happen to work with it the longest hence I know every nook and cranny. Meanwhile, for APP, I'd want to use it if my workflow involves alot of adobe photoshop &amp; after effects etc integrated in it. It'll make adjustments alot easier. I can also go another alternative and introduce 'Automatic Duck' so that I can cross platforms between final cut and adobe. Unfortunately though, I don't have automatic duck! </p> <p> </p> <p>I happen to have alot of articles and websites on my blog that might prove useful if anyone wants to compare the two NLE softwares. Do check out fadlywychowvski.blogspot.com</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-68327 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:46:11 +0000 Diana Mosely 68327@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thank you,  I really appreciate all the tip's.  </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-68309 Tue, 31 May 2011 14:46:53 +0000 pseudosafari 68309@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You should be able to import photos into any NLE, but one feature I like about Premiere Pro is the ability to import Photoshop <em><strong>projects</strong></em> and play with the layers (for example, set up keyframes so one layer moves above another layer).  Check out this video to see what I mean.  Maybe you can do this in other NLE's--I don't know.  But this is key for me:</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeItmfEa1gw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeItmfEa1gw</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-68302 Mon, 30 May 2011 20:15:46 +0000 grinner 68302@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> naaa. Photoshop works fine with any NLE. You'll need to learn it sooner or later, just like After Effects. I see no need to mess with Light Room at all. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-68300 Mon, 30 May 2011 15:11:45 +0000 Diana Mosely 68300@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thank you everybody for all the great information.  I would love your opinion based on my situation.  I am not currently in the business but would like to purchase either the Apple or Adobe NLE ( I do not know what that stands for. Ha!)  I would like to have software that I can grow with.  I will also be getting software to edit photograph.  I am considering Photoshop, of course.  I used to shoot photography years ago, and would like to get back into it and add video at the same time.  I plan to make short video for families, of their children, which will include photographs.  I have a new iMac.  The only upgrade i got was the intel i7.  So here is the question.  Should I purchase 'Adobe Creative Suite 5.5 Production Premium Student and Teacher Edition which is on sale now for $404.00.( I get a teachers discount) or FCP, or FC express?  Do I still need 'Light Room" for my photographs if I buy Adobe Creative Suite?</p> <p>A friend, who is, a professional photographer told me that she had a hard time taking her photos out of Aperture and into Photoshop, so I was wondering if I would have a hard time using Photoshop and FCP together.</p> <p>Any thoughts?  I would really love your knowledge.  What is going to be best for me long term and why?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-68178 Sun, 22 May 2011 15:25:19 +0000 John Snowden 68178@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>So I always find these sorts of discussions to be, if nothing else, entertaining. Some folks can get so testy hah. In all seriousness though, I've been editing video professionally for about 4 years now after working as an intern and a student for the 6-7 years before that. I have both PP &amp; FCP although I really never use PP. It's come a long way in the last ten years and like any editor who actually wants to work ... I keep up with most NLE software. In reality, they all do the same things (for the most part) with the only difference being how many clicks it takes to get from point a to point b.</p> <p>I remember the day back in 2000, freshman year at film school, when I switched from Premiere 6.0 to FCP 1.0 and unlike my Premiere editing experience, I was SHOCKED to discover draggable and snapping clips on the timeline, no crashing-to-desktop, no blue screen of death, no randomly corrupted video files and no need for FAT32. And in the last ten years of pretty steady editing, not once has my FCP system crashed, corrupted or in any way freaked out. FCP is what works for me. That said, it might not be for everybody. So, in my opinion, here's how it breaks down:</p> <p>1. Avid Media Composer: hands down the best (and still all around industry standard) editing system for classic continuity editing. The ability to preview multiple takes/angles at the same time can't be beat if traditional, narrative, continuity editing is your thing.</p> <p>2. Adobe super-duper-creative-mega-design suite with premiere pro: CS5 is a long way removed from Premiere 6.0 and considering the last time I really used it was on a "gasp!" pc ... I'm really not the guy to talk about how awesome it is, even on mac. For a beginner, it'll do the trick but first impressions being what they are, its just not for me. Mostly I just use After Effects, Photoshop &amp; lightroom. On Location looks awesome if I ever used a camera it was compatible with. But I don't ever use the other stuff except to learn how to use it ... you just never know what a producer or client wants you to use. AE is better at 3D animation than Motion (i think) so for titling ... i stick with it and Photoshop just sort of goes without saying. Now as much as I don't like Premiere, I do like that it has AVCHD now as part of its native workflow although you sacrifice Apple's 10 bit Pro-Res soo pick your poison.</p> <p>3. Vegas: I used it once like five years ago ... no real complaints other than what seemed at the time a total lack of support for any camera other than a Sony. Weird digital artifacts with Canon and a lot or problems with DVCPro codecs.  </p> <p>4. Final Cut Studio: unlike Avid or Premiere, this wasn't designed to schmooze people away from linear video or Steinbeck film editors. The first NLE software to add HD to it's workflow (almost a year before avid). The only NLE with a native quicktime workflow. The first to allow real-time previews of HD. The first to allow draggable video clips on the timeline. For me, its extremely user friendly with all of the main tools being right there on the front end rather than stuck in some submenu somewhere ... I just think its a more intuitive system for editors. But I don't think its hard to learn. If any one is coming from a PC, the hardest part about the switch to FCP is going to be learning Mac OS ... not FCP. Import, drag to timeline, tweak, and export. Compressor is about as easy a software as I think I've ever used for transcoding or conversion. You see your file, its preview and a huge list of highly organized presets that are totally customizable per your needs. Now the Adobe Media Encoder is more or less the same thing with one big exception ... it takes (for me anyways) a lot longer to encode but necessary if you want to convert to flash. (Although vimeo, youtube, and blip.tv do that for you.) Motion is very easy to learn but limited compared to after effects (I can say that though because I'm not an animator.) And sure, Soundtrack Pro isn't as big and bad as say Pro Tools, but I've scored with STP, designed sound tracks in regular stereo to dolby digital 5.1, for animations including a commercial for General Mills. </p> <p>So if its my money, I'd go with FCP because for me, I've always been able to do more with it and with a lot less headaches. I don't have to be an IT guy. I can just edit some video and send it out to the client.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/3#post-67036 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:32:33 +0000 Ted M. Corrington 67036@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Ditto!  Thanks Rob, Composite1, and everyone else who contributed to this thread.  My situation is almost identical to mattPAISLEY's and your experience and opinions have helped a great deal.  Couldn't find info as good as this anywhere else.  Thanks again!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-66838 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:15:56 +0000 mattPAISLEY 66838@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks, rob &amp; grinner!  </p> <p>To clarify, rob, yes, I am using an older PPC Mac, so I am limited to Final Cut Suite 2 and Adobe CS4. I will get my feet wet on this machine, and then when I am used to the software and my confidence level is much higher, I will invest my money in a beefier machine and current software.</p> <p>Thanks, again, to you both!!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-66810 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:23:13 +0000 grinner 66810@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I think we can all go from one NLE to another with no problem. I've used em all and would not hesitate to book myself in any room with whatever software they have. It's just buttons.</p> <p>that said, whetever ya dig is what you should go with today. If it matches your workflow and your budget, do it. It aint gotta be a this software vs that software anymore. With strengths and weaknesses in every app and with prices only getting cheaper, I see it more as a this WITH that world now.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-66809 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 06:23:04 +0000 robGRAUERT 66809@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><strong>"I work on a G5 and I have the ability to use either software suite."</strong></p> <p>Unless you get an old version of Final Cut Studio, your G5 is preventing you from using Final Cut. Final Cut Studio 3 requires an Intel Mac. I'm assuming the same will go for their new release, if they actually release it at NAB...</p> <p>From what I hear, going from Adobe to FCP isn't bad. I have no experience doing that, though.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-66807 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 04:19:43 +0000 mattPAISLEY 66807@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have found this thread fascinating, as a newbie! I am getting started in wedding videography, and I am trying to do some due diligence, before buying/renting equipment and buying software. When trying to decide what editing software to use, I suppose I have a bit of an advantage, since I will be capturing my own video. Therefore, I can control the file formats and codecs, and I won't have to worry about using multiple video formats/codecs in any single project (although I will be adding music files and eventually AE elements to the projects). I have experience with Photoshop and Illustrator as a graphic designer and Audition to mix audio for radio broadcast production. The promo videos for FCP certainly make that suite look very compelling, but I would suppose that PP would work just fine for me, as I work on a G5 and I have the ability to use either software suite. I have access to the CS5 Master Collection, but that doesn't prevent me from investing into FCP, if necessary. I wouldn't say that "money is no object", but I can make the investment, if it is necessary.</p> <p>Since I am just getting started, would anyone disagree that using PP in the beginning would be fine. As business and projects grow, how easy/difficult would it be to move to FCP, if I felt the need? I may not need to, based on the some of your comments, supporting PP. But if I felt that I wanted to make the jump to FCP, would I have to "rewire my brain" to be able to work with FCP?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62096 Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:34:49 +0000 composite1 62096@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>"... if Adobe had a codec that was on the level of Apple's ProRes or Avid's DNxHD, Premier would be set."</em></p> <p>I definitely agree with you there. As for which is 'better' concerning stand alone or online, I don't believe there's a 'better'. You only need online editing when you're working with a facility utilizing a server-based workflow among multiple editors at once. If you are working with other editors in an individually collaborative environment, you just need to workout what primary codec's you'll use and how/when you share the elements being made at a particular stage. It takes a bit longer, but it's a similar principle to onlining (potentially far less expensive too!)</p> <p>Much fun as I poke at Apple, I do find it disturbing how they've all but told the users of Pro Apps "C-Ya!" I know right now mobile computing is where the money's going to come from, but it's going to be a while before you can do anything significant with a mobile 'iDevice'. But that's how business goes. </p> <p>Yeah, I'd love to get a DVR, but when I contacted BMD they said no plans were in the works for making it windows friendly. However Magic Bullet Colorista II looks like a good option until then.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62084 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:33:31 +0000 robGRAUERT 62084@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>"From a 'single-user-alone-in-his-office' standpoint though, the line (at least to me) is very blurred as to which is better going into 2011."</p> <p>Believe it or not, after Apple dropped the ball this past NAB, everyone has their eye on switching to either Avid or Premiere since Apple doesn't seem to care much about Pro Apps anymore. Some even feel FCP has gotten to where it is today only because of all the third party support, like AJA, Matrox, Boris, etc</p> <p>If Apple doesn't do something with FCP for this next NAB, chances are people will begin migrating.</p> <p>I really think if Adobe had a codec that was on the level of Apple's ProRes or Avid's DNxHD, Premier would be set. Get the Adobe Suite. Pro Tools for audio. DiVinci Resolve for color grading. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62082 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:21:46 +0000 JonnyPaula 62082@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>@<strong><a href="http://www.dreadedenterprises.com/">composite1</a> </strong>- Yeah, very good point - most of my experience in the "workplace/industry" is from smaller production houses where we didn't do much/any on-line editing, and I have a tendency to forget how important that aspect of The Avid/FCP can be in the real work markets. From a 'single-user-alone-in-his-office' standpoint though, the line (at least to me) is very blurred as to which is better going into 2011.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62080 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:11:18 +0000 composite1 62080@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>"I find myself defending my position against the "industry-standard"</em></p> <p>JP,</p> <p>You're preachin' to the choir my friend. There was a time Premiere was a 'low-end' program, but those days are past. However, I had to listen to this same argument when FCP was coming up against Avid. All 'industry standard' means is 'that which the majority of professionals agree to use'. I guarantee you can still get a fist-fight going between Avid and FCP users if you push the right buttons. </p> <p>The main advantage both FCP and Avid have over premiere is their integration with dedicated on-line editing setups. Avid and FCP have years and years of experience behind their programs for working with on-line editing arrays. </p> <p>Adobe has mainly been a 'single workstation' minded software producer. Flash has been their primary focus for working in a server based environment. Moving the Creative Suite heavy-hitters like AFX, Premiere and maybe Soundbooth into the on-line environment would be IMO the last step in standing shoulder to shoulder with FCP. </p> <p>My main beef with FCP has always been it not being cross-platform. Avid and Premiere are and I work with them regularly.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62074 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:21:43 +0000 JonnyPaula 62074@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>@<strong>robGRAUERT - </strong>All fair points. You're right - my assessment that AE and PS are more valuable than color is just my opinion. But I trust I wouldn't be wrong in stating that if given a shopie's choice, most editors would go with Photoshop over Color. But maybe I'm totally off-base there...? -- And my apologizes on the ProRes/MPE comparison, I had forgotten about the age of your original comment. @<strong><a href="http://www.dreadedenterprises.com/">composite1</a></strong>- I get your comparison of the "both tools" argument, but I don't seem them as two entirely different things. Idealy, both are used to facilitate speed/ease with your raw materials *before* editing. ProRes allows for uniform files, with low system resources, at the expense of up-front time. MPE allows for speed with un-uniform files, at the expense of system resources. To me, they seem more similar pre-workflow solutions than either of you are giving credit... but I appreciate the healthy argument either way.</p> <p>If I exhibited an "attitude", I guess that's only because I'm excited to read/response to what seems like an intelligent debate amongst these two editing platforms. As a Premiere-guy, I find myself defending my position against the "industry-standard", when, from my perspective... I see the programs very close to equals. Perhaps I am a bit bothered not many others agree.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62070 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:37:26 +0000 composite1 62070@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>"nah, ProRes is the thing being colored while Magic Bullet is does the coloring."</em></p> <p>My mistake. That should have been Apple Color not Pro Res. Yeah, I would like to see a Head to head Colorista II vs DVR.... Just on the being able to afford it off the top without a control interface, I'd give Magic Bullet the nod.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62069 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:16:28 +0000 robGRAUERT 62069@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>nah, ProRes is the thing being colored while Magic Bullet is does the coloring.</p> <p>Now Magic Bullet vs Color vs DiVinci Resolve...that'd make for a good debate. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62065 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:43:57 +0000 composite1 62065@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Now JP don't pick on Rob.</p> <p>Of all the mac weenies/gurus on the forums he has exhibited little if any 'fanboy' behavior. He is right though about the MPE and Pro Res. Difference is like a hammer and a wrench. Both are tools, but each does something completely different. In Pro Res' defense, it is quite a useful tool for finishing and it comes with FCP. The MPE allows you to view unrendered video on the fly. Now, if you want to compare Pro Res to Magic Bullet's latest color-grading plug-in that's an argument I'd have your back on.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62061 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:07:31 +0000 robGRAUERT 62061@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>JPizzle,</p> <p>Yes, I've used Premiere for a bit at an internship when I was in college and had no problem with it, but if stating facts about FCP and pointing people in it's direction due to my personal success with it makes me a fanboy, then so be it. The original poster of this thread simply wanted to know the difference between the Adobe suite and the FCS suite. All I did was feed him facts.</p> <p>The fact that you think Adobe is better than FCP because you'd rather have AE and PS over Color is absurd. All three of those programs accomplish different tasks and are of no comparison. So really, your statement has more to do with YOUR needs, rather than trying to point people in the right direction for THEIR needs.</p> <p>Same thing with your Mercury &gt; ProRes statement. They're two completely different things. While ProRes is used for streamlining post to reduce rendering, that isn't it's main purpose like the MPE. ProRes was developed to maintain the most quality without eating up bandwidth. MPE, as far as I know, only allows you to play back anything...doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of your image throughout your workflow. Not to mention, all my posts about ProRes were either before the MPE was available or right around the time it was released and no one really know how it'd work in the real world.</p> <p>Seeing as you label yourself as a professional, I'd expect you to understand how to appropriately compare products and that at the end of the day, it's about choosing the right tool for the job. Lose the attitude...</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/final-cut-pro-vs-adobe-premiere-pro/page/2#post-62058 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:44:23 +0000 JonnyPaula 62058@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>@<strong><a href="http://joelmertz.net/">JoelMertz</a> - </strong>Your comment is almost ENTIRELY wrong... I thought maybe it was published a long time ago, back when CS2 or CS3 were the only offerings, but no, it is dated "1 month ago". </p> <p>1) You can change your timeline settings within a project in Premiere. This was added in CS4, two years ago.</p> <p>2) Blend modes changes are also available (I believe this was a CS4, possibly CS5 addition)</p> <p>3) Time-remapping controls were added in CS4, and are very useful, and "professional".</p> <p>4) Yes, FCP Suite has "Color" - but I'd rather have AE and PS any day of the week over a color correction app.</p> <p>5) The slick integration you spoke of is incredible, and an amazing time saver. Google Adobe's "Dynamic" link - that one AE/PP feature alone makes the Adobe suite better than FCP. (Depends on how much you use AE though) - It is not slower to link projects this way, not even close. Do some practical tests using the Mercury Playback Engine...</p> <p>6) FCP can handle PS files easily - but it can't handle their blending modes separately, as PP can.</p> <p>7)"It's no wonder why so many high end productions are using FCP" - yeah, because of close-minded, unresearched opinions like yours totally throwing under Adobe under the bus based on assumptions and false-hoods. </p> <p>8) Mercury Playback Engine &gt; ProRes Codec... hands down.</p> <p>This is my professional opinion, having used the both program suites professionally for many years. FCP is an amazing program, and as the "industry standard", it has it's place... but Premiere is easily the better of the two programs if you actually bother to give it a chance.</p> <p>Oh, and @<strong><a href="http://www.robgrauert.com/">robGRAUERT</a> - </strong>Have you actually used Premiere? You sound like a typical Apple fanboy.</p>