http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: wedding - Recent Posts en Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:42:09 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wedding-videography#post-74356 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:31:47 +0000 mrkinyo7 74356@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The SD footage looks good but then again, lights are a cameraman's best friend.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wedding-videography#post-74352 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:21:07 +0000 Weddingmaster 74352@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> SONY NX5, I use two...No need to change lenses, accepts 2 sd cards and a 12 hour pack if needed. Records to both sd cards at the same time. What more could you need except some experience. Good luck..</p> <p>Harry</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wedding-videography#post-74347 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:18:57 +0000 Silvis 74347@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I never used the Sony cameras for filming <a title="Wedding Video" href="http://silvis.co.uk/">wedding video</a> but I've used the EX3 and EX1 for other events. Both camera performed reasonably well in low light. But they are both ouf your budget. </p> <p>I have used the JVC GY series for weddings. These camera a great. The best part is professional Fujinon lens. It's probably the best lens I've used. </p> <p>I use DSLRs for weddings as they are cheaper and produce great image quality event in low light. Why don't you want to use DSLR? Also for the money you could get two DSLRs. Two cameras is essential to <a title="Filming Weddings" href="http://silvis.co.uk/">film weddings</a>.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-74330 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:03:41 +0000 Silvis 74330@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I hardly use lights as I believe they are intrusive to the wedding and the atmosphere is changed. To compensate the lack of light I use fast lenses such as 1.8 F or a DSLR with good low light capability such Canon 5D MK2 or Sony NEX5N. </p> <p> </p> <p>Have a look of some of my <a title="Wedding Video Samples" href="http://silvis.co.uk/">wedding video</a> samples. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/delivering-hd-to-clients#post-73183 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:09:17 +0000 Mark 73183@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks, I am just trying to gather information about all of this. In 2012 I am going to make a serious attempt at creating a business around doing video for all sorts of events. I, much like WSanford, have thus far only worked on stuff for the web, so file size has not been a big deal, but I think about the possibility of doing a few weddings for some $$ right away, and I wanted to know what people are delivering these days. These are a lot of great ideas. Very much appreciated.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/delivering-hd-to-clients#post-73182 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:13:36 +0000 langel 73182@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> HDD, thumbs, BD, online, depending on size, structure and money.</p> <p>As birdcat says, you can use DVD for smaller projects.</p> <p>What's more interesting, you may write your HD work on a DVD not only as a file.</p> <p>You may create a Blu-ray project with a menu, export it to an .iso file and burn it on a blank DVD. It will play with full functionality on standart BD players and, of course on any comp as well. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/delivering-hd-to-clients#post-73154 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:08:55 +0000 WSanford 73154@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> A lot of finished product I do now is intended for the net so that takes care of itself. Doing a lot more FTP or yousendit type than sending drives or discs right now. However, if the projects were longer that would likely be the way to go.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/delivering-hd-to-clients#post-73144 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:25:56 +0000 birdcat 73144@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You can also get 8.5GB on a DL DVD so you can deliver HD as .M2V files that way as well (if they'e small enuf).</p> <p>Most of my clients who want HD however, want BD or online delivery (YouTube, Vimeo, etc...).</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/delivering-hd-to-clients#post-73054 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:54:47 +0000 EarlC 73054@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I personally think the jury is still out on BluRay disc delivery, what with most home systems having uprez capabilities and even 4:3 SD footage not looking half bad in the viewing, except of course for the purists among us.</p> <p>However, I suspect that HD deliver on a hard drive would prove cheaper, on average, than setting up and delivering on a thumb drive based on cost per GB. I wrote a blog article about delivering on thumb drives, particularly the high costs of ordering custom branded thumb drives for distribution, noting that while it might have a certain "wow" factor, the practicality and economics sucked. But that old opinionated me.</p> <p>If you've read many of my offerings on the forums you know I continue to experience decent business levels while still offering SD production, though I intend to move into HD ... but still do not get much demand for it from my event and individual clients, and I can rent units when doing commercial work that requires it. Even then I usually deliver to commercial clients on hard drive, factoring in the costs.</p> <p>But, if/when BluRay becomes a demand item in my preferred market area I certainly believe that it is probably most economical to simply use, burn and deliver on BluRay disks to the end client ... all things considered.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/delivering-hd-to-clients#post-73049 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 02:44:05 +0000 Mark 73049@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I am new to videography, but I am about to embark on a career in it. </p> <p>I have not had to do this yet, but as I get more into event recording I am sure I will have to deliver HD video. It seems to me that burning Blu-Ray is very expensive. I have seen videographers put the files on Flash Drives and deliver them that way, I wanted to know how people in this forum are delivering finished HD content to clients, and what one would charge.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wedding-mics-to-replace-onboard-camcorder-mic#post-70429 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:46:53 +0000 John Tate 70429@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Rodemic is pretty good. It's a directional mic which is nice if you want to drown out un wanted sound and only pick up the sound of were its pointing. Stereo is nice but i'd get a directional mic first as the mic on your camcorder is stereo and probably not to bad. You could buy a digital voice recorder and a tie clip mic and strap that to the groom. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wedding-mics-to-replace-onboard-camcorder-mic#post-70426 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:41:56 +0000 EarlC 70426@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If they don't crowd your budget limits too much, the Zoom H1 (even though more expensive, the H2) make outstanding "audio bombs" to place where you need better sound acquisition: readers, officiant, B&amp;G, stringed quartets &amp; ensembles, soloists, etc.</p> <p>A truly dependable and rugged wireless system such as the Sony UWP-V6 is GREAT but way over your limits; and most shotgun mic systems still will not deliver the clean, clear, crisp, sweet audio of a GREAT wireless or the Zoom units when placed properly in proximity to the desired sound sources.</p> <p>Stereo often is or can be a good thing, especially in this day and age of 5.1 surround, but it's mostly useless for anything other than music elements IMHO, so long as the mono audio on dialog/narrative comes over on both channels in post.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wedding-mics-to-replace-onboard-camcorder-mic#post-70415 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:04:07 +0000 bennyboytx 70415@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I run a low budget wedding video business, and usually i rely on either a tape out of the church's mixer onto a cd or my built in mics to create a decent sound. What kind of mics under $100 could I buy to put on either one of my 2-camera wedding ceremony setup. Is stereo good to have?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dslr-vs-prosumer-camcorder#post-70034 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 04:49:43 +0000 R23 70034@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&lt;p style="color: #333333; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; margin: 8px;"&gt; </p> <p>Hi, I had Gh1 then waited for the red sub 2k price tag camera, which failed to emerge. With that said i moved to the Canon 550d. This gave me the shots that were perfect for B Roll stuff, but i always had some kind of back up camera to get the full shot on a tripod.</p> <p>I must say its a very deep dark hole which has a steep learning curve for beginners. Also the extras you need to bring with you ie: lights, sound, and all the rest. I think thats one of my issues with the prosumer camera kits, you need to have a army with you. I try to reduce in every way my kit or rigs, this create a less intrusive and intimidating environment for the subject who is being filmed.</p> <p>In terms of the hate towards youtube uploader's, well I think they are destroying the industry but at the same time created a bigger industry online with lower overhead global present and cost effective. The playing ground is almost even, which means quality and production time and cost will reduce at first and then creativity will rise. Oh i don't do wedding's, nice events but its not the way i'm going.</p> <p>Oh here's one i shot with the 550D.</p> <p><a href="http://youtu.be/YJYnOE_2L4E" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/YJYnOE_2L4E</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-69246 Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:10:19 +0000 BLWeddings 69246@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I prefer not to use video light during a wedding but will always choose to do so if the light is poor. The LED light on the top of my camera is adjustable and so I don't have to make everyone look like frightened rabbits!! You also get much better colours in the final <a title="Tatton Park Wedding Video" href="http://www.beautifullifeuk.com/blog/weddings/victoria-jamie-tatton-park-wedding/"><strong>wedding video</strong></a> and the <a title="Wedding Photographer Lincoln" href="http://www.beautifullifeuk.com/photographyblog/2011/06/22/lincoln-cathedral-wedding-photography/"><strong>wedding photographer</strong></a> often appreciates the extra light. So I would always advise to use when needed. </p> <p>My LED light goes on top of my camera from the beginning of the day - I am never without it just in case I end up in a situation with bad light. The thing with weddings is that you are dealing with constantly changing levels of light as you move through various rooms and locations over the day. So I would never be without it!!</p> <p>Beautiful Life Film and Photography<br /> Creative <a href="http://www.beautifullifeuk.com/blog/" title="Wedding Video blog">Wedding Video</a> and <a href="http://www.beautifullifeuk.com/photographyblog/" title="Wedding Photography blog">Wedding Photography</a><br /> Website: <a href="http://www.beautifullifeuk.com" title="Creative Cinematic Wedding Video and wedding Photography">http://www.beautifullifeuk.com</a> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-69110 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:04:41 +0000 sunkleep 69110@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Good points vid-e-o-man. At my last wedding shoot, moments before the "grandparents" dance, the DJ shut down all the lights except the "mirror ball" and I didn't have my camera lights handy...   ruined the whole dance. Live-and-learn.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-69095 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 01:59:55 +0000 vid-e-o-man 69095@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If all else fails,I have had some success, with the brides OK, getting some of the house lights back on for a short time: during special dances, bouquet toss, garter, etc. This, I think, will help the photographer focus. At least thats what I suggest.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-69091 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 00:09:16 +0000 sunkleep 69091@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Wow, great responses (and so quickly). I've done lots of corporate videos where lighting is a given...  and now that I've jumped on the wedding wagon, I will need to (quickly) learn the secrets of good videos in dim lighting. I can't see dragging in lots of lights to accomidate every scenerio, but having good lighting on the camera seems like a "must have". For weddings, I use 3 cameras and that would give me 3 light set-ups. I'm hoping that would be sufficient (sounds like it should work fine). Thanks guys.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-69090 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:41:18 +0000 EarlC 69090@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I ALMOST ALWAYS ASL but also have them attached and ready to use in emergencies. Regardless of what people in or out of the industry say, what manufacturers claim or otherwise, VIDEO IS LIGHT, LIGHT IS VIDEO, and you will NOT get the same quality color and image results in poorly lighted venues without some kind of lighting, used appropriately. THAT BEING SAID ...</p> <p>... another thing I do is turn on the light with it and the camera facing the floor or ceiling, THEN when the people I throw it on notice it's coming I bring it into play. I use toughspun in front of the light if it needs, or use a dispersal filter if such a thing is available for the model lights I happen to be using. I DON'T use Kleigs or some other Super Nova lamp system ;-(</p> <p>I also use small, LED units with disposable batteries to place inconspicuously around the head table, etc. that are rather unobtrusive and yield just enough glow that I get good results, same thing for audio backup, using my arsenal of Zoom H2 standalone recorders for sound.</p> <p>I HAVE set up and used 1,800 watts worth of NRG studio lighting around the dance floor. Reaction is a mixed bag, but if I have hassles it's usually from the DJ who complains that My lights are having an adverse effect on HIS light show ... most of them are compliant enough that a compromise is possible, say for the main dances, but not after the party dancing starts.</p> <p>Until there's an affordable camera that tests out to produce the SAME image quality, clarity and coloration with or without available or added lighting, I will bring and use them when they are necessary to produce a quality production. I HAVE had clients tell me NO LIGHTS and I add a line to the production agreement so stating, warning of the loss of quality, emphatically stating that NO CAMERA on the market can match one that USES lighting properly, and they sign off on any resulting liability due to perceived lack of quality based on their demand to NOT use any lighting at all.</p> <p>Their call.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-69087 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:42:29 +0000 doublehamm 69087@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I always ask, and I always am told to go ahead.  BUT asking is better<br /> than "pissing" them off if you don't know.  I have the SWAT set from<br /> flo-lights and a couple others that go on for at least the spotlight<br /> dances (and sometimes needed for toasts).  Then I use a single camera light once the dance starts to get the rest of that footage.  </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/at-weddings-camera-lights-or-not#post-69086 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:12:36 +0000 sunkleep 69086@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;I've only done a few weddings so far, and after every shoot, I ask the folks if they thought camera lights (during the dark scenes) would be distractive....&nbsp;&nbsp; and they have all said they would rather have the lights to get a good video than no lights. What is the opinion of other wedding videographers -- camera lights on or off??</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/a-wedding-with-the-new-sony-nx70-cam#post-69073 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:07:04 +0000 Weddingmaster 69073@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> my experiences, I have an nx5 as my primary and a small sony HD handheld. I was looking for another smaller cam to shoot b cam with the nx5. I received it on a tuesday and had a wedding that saturday..I learned all the basic controls and off we went...first hitch...no neutral density filter..ok, I'll set the shutter control up as a quick button as this was an outdoor wedding and the f stop only goes to 9 i believe?. The focus was set on auto and responded very nice and predictable. The active steady shot is very nice feature also. But...my issues came during the pre ceremony shooting and during the ceremony shooting. I was going back and forth from inside to outside sun and every trip I would have to stop open the viewfinder door hit menu, scroll for a control, hit exit, close the door as I use the eye piece mostly. It became very labor intensive..Had I not had a good feel for this venue and many weddings under my belt this shoot would have been a nightmare. I really wanted to like this camera because its very light and works great on a mono pod But, It had to go back to its creator. I will save up the extra $1000. and purchase a second nx5. I am not bashing this camera as it has some very nice features but it is not for me. The water tight doors and crevices are hard to open when in a rush if you dont have finger nails and I do very few weddings in the rain. I do like the wide lens for close shooting. I also experienced a lot of haze in the viewfinder when shooting in bright sun? I would like to hear other peoples experiences with this camera?</p> <p>Harry</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/which-camera-is-in-for-weddings#post-68307 Tue, 31 May 2011 09:21:20 +0000 MediaFish 68307@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>We are successfully using Canon 7D and XF100 cameras to video weddings (2 each).  Both serve us well and the 7D also acts as our still picture camera.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/which-camera-is-in-for-weddings#post-68182 Sun, 22 May 2011 17:21:00 +0000 Weddingmaster 68182@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Nice work Ryan!!</p> <p>Bill, I would have to agree with Jack..Get something tried and true and learn the basics. Then get the big guns. I shot with sony 2000 cameras for years. my demos here are with the 2000. <a href="http://www.hbrookes.com">http://www.hbrookes.com</a>  I also do photos and DJ..my mind is a very crowded place, Luckily I can section it off and multi task. I am also a musician...geez..</p> <p>Ive recently upgraded to the nx5 and learning the deep deep menus and settings..I have a hi def wedding this week. I will post some hi lites. Good Luck.</p> <p>Harry</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/advice-on-getting-started#post-67986 Sun, 15 May 2011 02:41:46 +0000 vid-e-o-man 67986@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Bob, there is lots of sage advice from the replies that you have received so far. The more weddings and other events you shoot, the more you will learn and the value of your work will increase. If you search through these forums, you will discover an ample supply of advice on equipment and techniques for all of your video making needs from helpful and generous posters. You can find info on the equipment that Earl mentioned, from the top of the line down to the very basic stuff that will get the job done on a budget. As you enter into this business, you will probably want to look at the latter with the idea that you can upgrade as your skill and resources increases. Practice shooting video, practice editing video and when not doing that read reference material and visit here and other forums like this. Keep shooting and good luck.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/advice-on-getting-started#post-67983 Sat, 14 May 2011 15:48:16 +0000 Jeff Goldberg 67983@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi Sam Lamke, thanks for recommending my ebook.  I hope you can benefit from my 20 years of part time work in the wedding and event business</p> <p>EarlC, your advice is spot on for for videography start ups.  I wanted to expand on one of your points regarding spending too much time with post editing and thus diluting your apparent hourly rate.  I've always used simple in-camera edits like fade-to-black and dissolves, sparingly of course, to greatly reduce my time in post production.  I cannot emphasize enough how reducing the time you spend per gig has many benefits.  First and foremost, it increases your apparent houly rate.  Second, it allows you to be more competitive price wise.  Finally, it allows you to pursue other interests, such as school, a regular 9-5 job, or even simply taking on more video gigs.</p> <p>Bob Johnson.  You can certainly go to school full time and work wedding gigs.  I would only caution you that before you sell you video services under your own name, you first work for a seasoned pro and truly learn the ropes.  Best of luck.  Keep us posted on the forum.</p> <p>This videomaker forum is a wonderful way to exchange ideas and educate one another.  Here is some advice I published 15 years ago</p> <p><a href="http://www.videomaker.com/article/2189/">http://www.videomaker.com/article/2189/</a></p> <p>Jeff Golberg</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/advice-on-getting-started#post-67857 Tue, 10 May 2011 14:34:31 +0000 samlamke 67857@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hey Bob,</p> <p>My advice is that you first apprentice with a local videogrpher and learn while you earn.  Chances are that your willingness to operate a 2nd cam, set up and break down equipment, interview guests, etc. would make you a valuable crew member for any local studio.</p> <p>On the job training trumps any training you get from simply reading a book.  Nonetheless, I recommended a great ebook on starting your own business</p> <p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OA6EUM">http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OA6EUM</a></p> <p>By reading the book, you'll be able to learn the lingo so you can interview well when applying for apprentice jobs.</p> <p> </p> <p>Best of luck to you</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/advice-on-getting-started#post-67831 Tue, 10 May 2011 07:02:50 +0000 grinner 67831@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Get in good with the wedding planner folks then don't vary from your set rates. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/best-how-to-book-for-wedding-video-start-up#post-67830 Tue, 10 May 2011 07:00:46 +0000 grinner 67830@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Books have never been the way to get started in video. A camcorder is.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wedding-video-length#post-67829 Tue, 10 May 2011 06:59:12 +0000 grinner 67829@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> there is nothing mandatory in a wedding video and very little that's remarkable. Truth is it's usually an after thought (hence no budget put aside for video) and more often than not, they'd be best off just letting uncle bob shoot it. I can tell you when you edit these to make them watchable the first thing you hear is "where is the part that such and such happened!?" That said, the ceremony is left alone other than cutting the different shots together and doctoring up the audio. The creativity comes witht he reception. This is where you can make lil music videos, photo montages, ect. To me, it's where their money goes and what sets a pro video apart from uncle Bob's. It's ironic... the still photographer is the first to be called... before the cake chic even. They have no problem giving thema  couple grand to snap some stills and hand em to em but when a video dude says 4 grand they look at him like he's crazy. The crazy thing is, there are many who will do it for less than 10 bucks an hour rather than stick to their rates... bringing them right back to uncle bob quality... who will do it for beer.</p>