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<title>Videomaker Community Forums &#187; Tag: student - Recent Posts</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:26:46 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>EarlC on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>EarlC</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Great tool, Robin. I like your enthusiasm and initial assessment. I am personally interested in hearing more as you get into the abilities and quality of video with your new camcorder. Please do keep us informed.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>designcbts on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>designcbts</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#38;nbsp;Congratulations Robin!&#38;nbsp;&#38;nbsp;&#38;nbsp;Start investing time with your new equipment, even if it's just shooting some stock footage for yourself.&#38;nbsp; Be careful, protect your camcorder and accessories from drops, scrapes, etc.&#38;nbsp; I would also start experimenting with your shotgun mic in different envronments (indoor/outdoors).&#38;nbsp; Good luck!&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Robin on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey thanks everyone for all the info. It was extremely helpful. I ended up getting the panasonic AG-HMC80-- it's a perfect size and weight (really stable); it can record in HD or SD; it has a lot of really great manual functions; and the sound is good (I got a shotgun mic as well.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/709719-REG/Panasonic_AG_HMC80_AG_HMC80_3MOS_AVCCAM_HD.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/709719-REG/Panasonic_AG_HMC80_AG_HMC80_3MOS_AVCCAM_HD.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just got it yesterday and I'm really happy with it, though I'm still learning how to use it:) &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Joseph Dellwo on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dslr-vs-prosumer-camcorder-1#post-72766</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Joseph Dellwo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm not going to get too deep into the DSLR vs camcorder issue here - I own both and both have their place - it really depends on what you want to do with them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But I will say this - I owned the venerable Canon XL-1 for almost 10 years and never bought a second lens.  Weddings, commercials, sports, training videos and more - same lens.  So don't get hung up too much on interchangable lenses.  Your camera moves.  And I NEVER had to sweat the audio with my XL.  There's nothing like having all your controls at your fingertips and a nice headphone jack to make sure you get the audio you need.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Secondly, if you do go DSLR to shoot mostly video, consider a Canon t3i (600d) instead of the weather sealed 7d.  If you aren't taking it into the jungle, the t3i will do everything video-wise and more that a 7d can do for way less money.  Same APS-C sensor.  Same lenses.  Awesome flip out viewfinder.  An admittedly difficult to use audio meter and manual controls, but at least it has them.  It's also less prone to overheating.  Put the money you save into good audio equipment.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is no one size fits all camera.  Figure out what you are going to do with your camera and let that guide you.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Bruce on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62; Robin, I think you're getting ahead of yourself.  Interchangeable lenses?  Why?  It's like starting out as a young driver and your want your first car to be an Indy racing car.  Get a great rated Canon, or any other brand/video camera that others rate high.  Use that camera's zoom feature, or better yet, get your subject within the framing/asthetic reasons.  When you've reached that peak in ability, projects, getting to know what works and what doesn't, then you can use your past knowledge and step up to the interchangeable world of videocameras.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good luck and enjoy the experiences.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>David Forrester on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>David Forrester</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Robin:  I have both.  A dedicated camcorder Sony Z5 and a superb DSLR Canon 5D Mk2 with 8 Zeiss lenses.  I have used them extensively for over a year.  Both cameras give stunning quality pictures.  When it comes to stills, the Canon is world class.  When it comes to clear, clean night or low light photography, the Canon wins hands down.  When it comes to shallow depth of field, creativity &#34;art&#34; type of shooting, the Canon wins big time and in truth, that is why I got it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But when it comes to audio - and remember audio is 50% of the total capture and often overlooked or minimized, the Canon fails miserably.  So I had to buy an external Zoom Hn4 recorder - which means you need another person with you to focus in on the audio component. It means you have to turn on and off the camera AND the recorder each time - watch for level controls, etc.  It won't work for a single gal. Not at this stage of the game. And then you have sync the sound in post.  The Zoom does give a huge range of audio options and quality and 4 channels - so that is amazing alone and worth the price of admission!! But it IS another job for a dedicated sound guy.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Sony Z5 does these things that the Canon cannot do:  Delivers stunning pictures with a 20X zoom, the quality and sharpness indistinguishable or better than the Zeiss and the Canon.  Maybe the colors aren't as saturated, but that is always done in post anyway.  That Sony has superb built-in mics and another directional mic that is as good as my Sennheiser ME66.  The controls of the Sony allow me to do anything my heart desires from run and gun automatic to any form of manual / auto and therefore alllows me to follow focus.  The audio is taken care of automatically or manually.  It can accept 2 XLR mics, on line inputs, phantom power. I don't have to change out lenses - the range is from 29-580 - huge!  And variable zoom rates which can almost duplicate a slow dolly shot!  and 2 zoom rockers and start / stop buttons for low angles.  It has a flip out rotational screen - awesome!  For ultra wides, I use an adapter.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It has 3 built in ND's which are absolutely a MUST (Canon does not).  it has something like 100 functions including peaking, color settings, profiles, last frame review, variable rates when color or light changes, 24 and 30p as well as SD and interlacing (dinosaurs these days).  And variable lens stability too!  And I USE all of them often.  Even slo-mo (but you sacrifice pix quality).  And it can record for an hour non-stop - then you have to change tapes. It does not overheat.  One battery is good for 6 hrs of continuous recording - unheard of in a dslr.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The only downside is the lack of shallow depth of field at 29-150mm settings and low light with clarity and no noise.  But trust me, the Sony is still the king of the 2.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I love that Canon 5D, but it has become a cash sink-hole to make it work.  For instance, when shooing at f 1.4-2.8, the focus is shallow - sometimes razor thin.  Following action is almost impossible and takes great skill and practice.  The live view is the only way to see the picture and it and it is not nearly good enough for precise focusing with a big lens of 50-180mm range and a moving subject 5-10' away. You are always switching to 5 and 10X zoom for precision - a pain but necessary.  The fully manual Zeiss lenses are world class and trust me, they need exacting precise operations to make them sing - therefore you need help. I got a Hoodman to look up close to the live view which is a great asset, but still cannot equal an external monitor such as the Marshall 5 or 7&#34; (absolute pre-requisites) and that costs 500-1000.  The Canon cannot do a 15 min straight shoot as it gets too hot and shuts down to cool off. I can do it in the winter tho.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Canon has moire and a digital look with microscopic vertical and horizontal lines.  The Sony's Exmor chip eliminates that completely.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Canon shines when it comes to the creative aspect, but really needs to be properly set up and very carefully used only in the right setting.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Sony weighs 6 pounds.  The Canon with lenses, audio, gear accessories is 30 lbs or more.  Canon investment is around $10k.  Sony is $4k and is easier to use by a wide margin.  But when it comes to stills, Canon is the king in the world.  Hope this gives a really detailed, in depth, understanding of what you are up against.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now, having said that, a great DP once said this after looking at the Great Camera Shootout,  &#34;Give me a good script, a good cast and a good Director and I can win the world&#34;  even with so-so equipment.  Schindler's List is a classic example of exactly that.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Tim on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Robin... as somebody else mentioned, you'll have to find another means for capturing audio if you go with a DSLR.&#38;nbsp; Big consideration.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I purchased an XA10 a couple of months ago.&#38;nbsp; Great pic, relatively easy to use... I had a small issue configuring mic inputs, but I may have just been having a bad day... again.&#38;nbsp; It's very small and a little hard to get used to as I was using a Panasonic AG-DVC60 before.&#38;nbsp; Zoom control is a little touchy.&#38;nbsp; But, I'm happy with my purchase and the quality of the video.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>vid-e-o-man on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>vid-e-o-man</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62; Robin, as Joshua stated: &#60;em&#62;They sell camcorders with interchangeable lenses (almost any DSLR lens if you have the adapter for it) which are designed to bridge the gap between camcorders and DSLR's, &#60;/em&#62;Sony's nex 10 price is in your range. I haven't any experience with it but you can find lots of input on it. It has a large enough sensor to give the shallow depth of field and you can add an adaptor to use a lot of different lenses. The form factor is similar to a videocam good for run and gun and I don't think that you will have the overheating issue as a DSLR. You were looking for another suggestion and I thought of this. Good luck with your choice.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Robin on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey thanks everyone-- this is great. I really appreciate the thoughts and comments. Rob you brought up a great point about just knowing the trade and Earl you brought up a great point about the inconvenience of changing lenses.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Out of curiosity, does anyone have any other camcorder recommendations?&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Freddy on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Actually, DSLR are pretty nice for many things, when you already know the basic and you are in situations where there is not enough light for example. But for learning purpose, I would prefer a camcorder, just for the fact that I would develop more skills to fix that low light situation, instead of relying on my low light capacity.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;At least for me, is not just &#34;what is best&#34;, but &#34;what push me more to be creative&#34;. Later on, you can find out &#34;what is easier&#34; : )&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>EarlC on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>EarlC</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Controlled shooting environment with the availability for retakes ... something in the growing, interchangeable lens, DSLR family. This is, of course, provided you have the budget for additional quality audio acquisition and an assortment of lenses that will enable you to take advantage of the creative potential that comes with interchangeable lenses.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Virtually ANY other video production environment that calls for being quick on the trigger, from ENG to what Rob said about &#34;run-and-gun&#34; where you have to move quickly and be ready to shoot, or continue shooting for various reasons would benefit from a video camcorder.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In my case i do a LOT of continuous record event shooting that lasts from one-to-two hours, often without breaks. I have NO use for another lens, nor would I be able to anticipate, drag out another lens and change it mid-performance. I need long record times without stopping/starting due to heat and time restrictions, and I do not want to be any MORE creative than what two camcorders, one shooting wide to medium, the other shooting medium to extreme close up, can give me. A camcorder, PLEASE!&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Joshua Strazewski on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Joshua Strazewski</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#38;nbsp;They sell camcorders with interchangeable lenses (almost any DSLR lens if you have the adapter for it)&#38;nbsp;which are designed to bridge the gap between camcorders and DSLR's.&#38;nbsp; The problem now is they're new and pricey.&#38;nbsp; DSLR's are good for interview type shooting/fixed camera placement.&#38;nbsp; I use mine (D5100 which I know is a pain to use for video on account of having to back door the settings to get it out of auto focus) for time lapse and stills to complement my HMC-150 footage, not replace it.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>videoworksjh on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>videoworksjh</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#38;nbsp;I find myself asking the same question, I have three,&#38;nbsp;three chip Sony camcorders.&#38;nbsp; Although these are good cameras, I do have problems in low light situations.&#38;nbsp; I have just started looking into these cameras.&#38;nbsp; The ability to change lenses seems like a great step forward in low light situations.&#38;nbsp; Maybe if we throw this question up in the cloud.&#38;nbsp; &#34;Ha ha&#34; we will all be able to gather some more information.&#38;nbsp; But on the surface, these smaller cameras with the ability to change lenses, and their ability in low light situations makes them extremely interesting.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>robGRAUERT on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>robGRAUERT</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;If you're a film student and want to work in film/television, I think you are better off getting a real video camera first. The HDSLRs lack many controls and inputs that are standard on video cameras. And whether or not HDSLRs are more versatile is based on the type of shoot you are on. They aren't more versatile in run-n-gun situations. And with new 35mm video cameras becoming more available, HDSLRs are becoming more irrelevant.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;When you get out of school, a legit employer will hire you based on what you can do, not necessarily what equipment you used in school. So you need to focus on HOW to tell a story, HOW to shoot, HOW to light, HOW to edit, HOW to make motion graphics, HOW to encode and compress. Don't get so caught up on what gear you are using.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Don on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;this debate has been done, check the forums search..&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; I have no experience with that camera...&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>Robin on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey thanks for the reply--yea I'd be able to get more lenses but that would have to wait a few months...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Do you know anything about the XA10? Do you think it'd be the right investment?&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Don on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think you answered your own question... if your budget is limited, you're gonna want lighting and sound equipment.... then will you be able to afford lenses for a d-slr?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;if not then there is no point in going that direction.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Robin on "DSLR vs. Prosumer Camcorder?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am a student filmmaker and I am about to purchase a new camera. I am debating between a DLSR (something like the Canon 7d) or a prosumer camcorder (like the Canon XA10.) My budget is around $2,000 or so. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I already have a digital camera (the Nikon d80, which is decent) so I am leaning towards a camcorder. I feel that since if I am trying to be a filmmaker and not a photographer a DSLR is not the right direction to go. However, a lot of my friends have and recommend them because they are versatile (in terms of lenses and whatnot.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Any comments or advice? Is there another brand that I should consider? Do you have any other recommendations for cameras?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(Just a note as far as my post production goes-- I edit on final cut pro 6 and have a 1 TB external hard drive.)&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Charles Schultz on "Web-TV : Follow a six month trip in Asia"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Charles Schultz</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I watched the first one you posted and it was not too bad. I personally would have had the music playing in the background the whole time and when she was talking I would have turned it down a touch. There were a few places where you had some very quick shots that seemed out of place that were distracting from the whole story. About the 2:22 mark you had maybe a second of her changing tables with music then cut to something else. Prior to that you had a shot of chair legs, cut those. When she was talking about Salsa dancing, you could have shot a little bit of that type of dancing. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The video was not horrible, just could have been edited a little differently. Keep shooting.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>florian on "Web-TV : Follow a six month trip in Asia"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>florian</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;For those who want to discover a city in Philippines and not only islands, I just edited a new video about Manila. It was a really interesting and charming place, but it's too bad we only stayed there one day...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Whatever, here come the video :&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://vimeo.com/30613104&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://vimeo.com/30613104&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Enjoy and see you soon ;)&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>florian on "Web-TV : Follow a six month trip in Asia"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>florian</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello all !&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've just directed a new video in Palawan Island. This time, it's all&#60;br /&#62;
about the underwater world, the fishes, the corail, etc.. ! It was&#60;br /&#62;
really beautiful. I hope that you will enjoy this place, on my side I&#60;br /&#62;
look forward to going there again :)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You can check out the video right here as usual :&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.asiantriptv.com/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.asiantriptv.com&#60;/a&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;or here on Vimeo :&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://vimeo.com/30419356&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://vimeo.com/30419356&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;See you soon !&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>florian on "Web-TV : Follow a six month trip in Asia"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/web-tv-follow-a-six-month-trip-in-asia#post-71374</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 07:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>florian</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello all !&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just came back from Philippines where I directed some videos. The&#60;br /&#62;
first one is about Palawan Islands. So this is the very first part of&#60;br /&#62;
the journey, and you can check it out there :&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.asiantriptv.com/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.asiantriptv.com&#60;/a&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;or right here on Vimeo :&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.vimeo.com/30063862&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.vimeo.com/30063862&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I hope you'll enjoy it,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;See you soon ;)&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>tyboulder on "Struggling to find clients"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/struggling-to-find-clients/page/2#post-71104</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>tyboulder</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I really appreciate all of the wisdom and honest advice from the&#60;br /&#62;
&#34;vets&#34; out there.  It's great to find some people willing to&#60;br /&#62;
take the time to help out the noobs and inexperienced.  So much great&#60;br /&#62;
advice.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't have much to add, but did you keep in touch with the kids that&#60;br /&#62;
studied web design (if there was a concurrent program) at your school? &#60;br /&#62;
There's a chance you'll find clients who need web work-- so if you have&#60;br /&#62;
contacts that need web work, you can probably help each other out.  You could even give your web design contacts a&#60;br /&#62;
small commission if you want (to really incentivize them to sell a video to&#60;br /&#62;
their customers), but how that’d work would depend on your relationship with&#60;br /&#62;
them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>shootatwill on "Struggling to find clients"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/struggling-to-find-clients#post-71028</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shootatwill</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Great info everyone.  Thank you all for taking this topic seriously.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Matheww,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; Find some video associations in your area.  They are a great way to network and meet some great contacts that may need your services. Likewise, gives you great contacts/resources for you to hire.  &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>composite1 on "Struggling to find clients"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/struggling-to-find-clients#post-71014</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>composite1</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;&#34;... When somebody finds your website and responds to Boston Film Student dot&#60;br /&#62;
 com they're not anticipating the kind of prices you're quoting.&#34;&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wow! I didn't realize you had that on your site. You might as well have put 'I don't know what I'm doing.com' up. Earl's right. When people hear 'student' it translates to 'I don't have to pay this rookie!' Change your site name and get that student crap off of there. No wonder no one's taking you serious. It really strikes me that you aren't ready for freelancing or god forbid running your own joint yet. Your best bet is to crew up much as you can or link up with someone looking for a protege'. Interning is another way, but you'll be working for free or  very little going that route.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>florian on "Web-TV : Follow a six month trip in Asia"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/web-tv-follow-a-six-month-trip-in-asia#post-71006</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>florian</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello everyone !&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just shot a new video about Ha Long Bay in Viet Nam, I hope you will enjoy it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Even if this place is crowded, still it's beautiful, even mystic !&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You can check it out on my website (there is also a video about Hanoi by night !)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.asiantriptv.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.asiantriptv.com&#60;/a&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;or right here :&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://vimeo.com/29251727&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://vimeo.com/29251727&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Enjoy :)
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>EarlC on "Struggling to find clients"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/struggling-to-find-clients#post-71003</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>EarlC</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I suspect, also, that when somebody finds your website and responds to Boston Film Student dot com they're not anticipating the kind of prices you're quoting. They're expecting a &#34;starving student&#34; &#34;starving artist&#34; willing to do a LOT for very little, something more in line with CraigsList listings. &#34;Student&#34; implies you're still getting an education, have very little practical experience and are an easy touch for cheap labor. Just saying ...&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>composite1 on "Struggling to find clients"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/struggling-to-find-clients#post-71000</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>composite1</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Matthew,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As I and others mentioned, part of your problem is you don't have a reputation yet. Okay, you've got a site but what's on it? How many projects have you worked on outside of those you did in school? You're going to have to get out there and shoot while you're not doing paying gigs yet. The footage you get will build up your material you can present on your site so potential clients can see what you are capable of. And initially, you'll need to do a couple of freebies or quid pro quo projects. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Your website and marketing are fine to get the interest of clients trawling for someone to shoot something. Problem is; most of those folks are just window shopping. Where a good deal of your customers will come is from referrals. How many times have you asked a friend, 'hey you know someone who can.... for me?&#34; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Production companies and freelancers get over the same way by people who used the service and told their friends. In the meantime, beef up your knowledge and skills so you can get picked up for crew gigs. Working with others is a great way to build up a strong referral base.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Finally, when it comes to doing freebies 'pick your battles'. Don't just give a client a freebie out of the blue. Pick something on a scale you can complete without putting a strain on your limited equipment and resource. Something like shooting a small charity event and so on. You're trying to make contacts and get yourself out there. If you just can't pull off a freebie, try doing the project for cost meaning you 'break-even'. You don't make any money, but you don't lose any either. Do it as an 'introductory offer' and do your best at it. You'll be surprised at how often that works. Of course you let the client know you'll charge full (or discounted for regulars) price for the next one.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Also, don't be so quick to mention price. Most callers who ask about money are just on 'fishing expeditions'. They'll waste your time because once they know 'how much', they'll move on. Save the 'how much' for the submitted proposal.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Matthew Costa on "Struggling to find clients"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/struggling-to-find-clients#post-70998</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Matthew Costa</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I've come across a new dilemma, I've followed the advice you guys gave me. I've been using my other website to promote myself as a video service provider (&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.bostonfilmstudent.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.bostonfilmstudent.com&#60;/a&#62;) and so far its attracted a few people. One whom requested I work on 4 PSA's and I sent them a quote based on a 4 PSA contract. The quote came out to be at $7,800 and I've not since heard from them. And its been like two weeks.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The other, requested a quote for a one day shoot on an exercise video (supposedly a pilot for a series of videos?), the total $1,700. Haven't heard from him either.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I now garner interest, but scare people away with the price. Which I don't post on the website, I just show off what I offer. But its based on these numbers.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;$500 per day&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;$300 per half day&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;$50 per hour (Post) - Based on 6 hour days (ie $300 per day)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is there any way I can boost a clients interest, or find a multitude of clients who will pay? Coming from a student who doesn't have the money for direct mail, or anything but using SEO optimization and some internet videos to promote myself. &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>doublehamm on "Next ICS Fest!"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/next-ics-fest#post-70887</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>doublehamm</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Maybe check your posts after you post them?  The HTML is not carrying over and these posts are very difficult to read. &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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