http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: sports - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:28:32 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70270 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:02:41 +0000 Murani Lewis 70270@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Parents are buying the DVDs directly from me.&nbsp; This is pretty much going to be my main focus for the next two months (September &amp; October) and will be devoting some serious time to it.&nbsp; I spoke to a parent and they think i could charge alot more because parents pay more for pictures than the $20 i'll be charging for the DVDs.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70257 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:02:46 +0000 EarlC 70257@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Jeff, I failed to make clear: I am discussing high school football games/season coverage, not Pop Warner. Sorry for the misinformation, should have been clearer regarding my fees and services.</p> <p>Regarding youth sports groups from soccer to basketball to football or baseball, etc. I work from a different direction where there's minimum sales and DVDs are sold direct to parents. The league pays nothing.</p> <p>No harm, no foul on the business philosophy. Whatever works for you.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70245 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:57:10 +0000 MediaFish 70245@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>EarlC,</p> <p>I hear and understand what you are saying however, the business model I have followed for the past 30 years has always paid the bills, bought new equipment, paid for repairs, maintained cash flow and the like.  I have found that there are those you charge and those you don't and in the end regardless you are rewarded.  Weddings. business videos, interviews, special events, etc all come with a price but - charging for shooting a few games for the local Pop Warner league on Saturday morning now nor in the past has ever made good business sense to me.  High school and college games are different they come with a price - I have received as much as $1500 plus travel per diem for high school games depending on the school, who the players were and circumstances surrounding the game.</p> <p>You state "I have a business to maintain, expenses to cover and equipment to keep,<br /> acquire or repair. I cannot be giving away my production services as a<br /> GIFT, regardless of the potential, kisses and promises or any other<br /> altruistic reward that MIGHT occur in the future. I have to make an<br /> income and maintain some element of daily cash flow to keep this ship<br /> running."  </p> <p>I see my gifts of services as a tax benefit - in the end its charity with the bonus of added paid work down the line.  Using this business model I have never gone wrong or failed to pay the bills.  I now cover 10 southeastern states with more work than I know what to do with and also provide media services for 7 different airlines - all from referrals and recommendations.  Success ALL has to do with how you treat the people you want to serve with your business and very little with whether you charged for this DVD or that post production effort of a youth football game or two.  Being successful in business has much more to do with relationships between the business (me and or my staff) and the people we are serving with the services our business offers than with the price we are charging.  I haven't shot anything still or video in almost 20 years on SPEC - everything is done with intention (either personal satisfaction or with the intent to make money somewhere along the way).  Giving back and being charitable are things successful businesses and successful people do - and, is used to strengthen the relationships needed to be a successful business.</p> <p>Please don't misunderstand me - I am not saying your approach, ideas or pricing are wrong I am just saying what I do works for me.</p> <p>So lets agree to disagree on this - we have different ideas and approaches with each of our ideas and approaches filling our individual needs to be successful.  </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70240 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:04:35 +0000 EarlC 70240@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>A full-time independent professional video services provider cannot afford to commit to guaranteeing a 10-game full season of coverage with its unavoidable requests for additional copies and other usual and unusual requests for favors and cutouts, individual stats and clips, etc. I have a business to maintain, expenses to cover and equipment to keep, acquire or repair. I cannot be giving away my production services as a GIFT, regardless of the potential, kisses and promises or any other altruistic reward that MIGHT occur in the future. I have to make an income and maintain some element of daily cash flow to keep this ship running.</p> <p>Don't get me wrong, there are ways and things I do occasionally to generate entry into some aspect of event production. There are extra things I provide to clients an customers to hopefully make them appreciate and continue doing business with me. I also have been known to STILL occasionally shoot a dance recital or such "on spec" meaning I spend the time to shoot and edit with NO minimum orders required and even if only ONE does order (as a get acquainted offer for NEW clients, not established clients). I have NEVER regretted doing this because with NO exceptions I've ALWAYS wound up selling as many or more than I do with the clients with whom I DO establish a minimum ... usually 25 sales at $25.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70239 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:56:42 +0000 EarlC 70239@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Murani, whatever you attempted to post, it didn't take, all I see is a blank space. Try again. Earl</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70229 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:55:29 +0000 MediaFish 70229@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have covered youth, high school and college sports for over 30 years.  Most times if I cover youth sports games I give the shoot to the team\league for free - and because of it 9 out of 10 times I am the guy they turn to\recommend in the future for any of their video and or photography needs.  I have gotten more work from the families who have players in the youth league than if I bought a banner for the fence at the field.  High School and College is a different thing.  If I know the student and the student asks me - I do it for free.  What it has gotten me is now I have families outside of the area calling to ask if I could film their kid's game and yes they are charged for my services (the charge depends on how far, the level being played, what credentials I need to get, etc etc).  In fact, I have a game 8/26 from a family who was recommended to me from a coach outside of my area - but the coach knew me.  In September I fly to OK to film two high school practices and a game - this one came by way of a recommendation from a coach here in Florida to the Coach in OK when they were at a coaching seminar.  This past July I shot an MMF event in Knoxville (I was paid for my services) - I was asked to film the event by one of the fighters who remembered me filming his youth and high school football games - I made him a free highlight tape was he was a High School Senior to send off to college (all he had to do was make the copies).</p> <p>You get back a hundred fold when you give gifts. Author Seth Godin in his book Linch Pin states that those that give gifts are rewarded beyond expectation.  The idea of giving gifts is hard especially when you are trying to pay the bills but, at least for me, in the long run gifts have paid many of my bills.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70214 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:14:51 +0000 EarlC 70214@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I've been contacted by a dad involved in a local sports team wanting 10 games covered and wanting to know what I'd charge to do this. I've not gotten back with him yet, but my usual fee is $300 per game and $10 per DVD. For this, I guarantee covering the entire regular season and assisting, if not providing, in providing coverage for playoffs if the season extends longer.</p> <p>I also provide a full-game (field shot - goal pole to goal pole) game DVD on Monday following each game, and a season highlights of about 20 minutes. THAT highlight DVD is delivered following end of season activities and/or an awards or football team banquet, whatever, and often shown that night as well. The highlights DVD is an additional $25 per DVD with a minimum of 20 copies to be sold.</p> <p>So, $10 per game DVD sold individually, no minimums, plus $300 per game for guaranteeing full season coverage. $25 for minimum of 20 season highlights DVDs, and a courtesy game DVD to the coach on Mondays following each game, no editing, transfer to DVD only with a title that tells the team names, school, date and final score.</p> <p>Projection service for the highlights video, if they do not have their own projector and screen (most do now days) is $375 with equipment and operator, one showing, on site up to 3 hours.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youth-football-season-dvd#post-70211 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:49:02 +0000 Murani Lewis 70211@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;This year I finally decided to offer a season dvd package for area youth football leagues.&nbsp; I was originally going to charge $10 per dvd but wised uip and thought that was entirely too low for a month and half worth of filming at 6 to 8 hours every Saturday plus all the editing.</p> <p>I now thought to price them at $20 until today a friend of mine who is also a player's dad said that I could charge between $35-$40.&nbsp; So any advice on pricing would be greatly appreciated.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sport-video-from-60p-to-1000fps-with-7d#post-69988 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:03:23 +0000 Charles Schultz 69988@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Composit1, that would work great in certain dream footage scenes. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sport-video-from-60p-to-1000fps-with-7d#post-69983 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:13:04 +0000 Don 69983@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Awesome!</p> <p> </p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh78T--ZUxY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh78T--ZUxY</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sport-video-from-60p-to-1000fps-with-7d#post-69982 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:07:43 +0000 Oyana Beasley 69982@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Very Cool video. Do you happen to have a tutorial on how did this.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sports-music#post-66955 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:53:30 +0000 birdcat 66955@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>This was a very old topic (2 years inactive).  If you're looking for Royalty Free music, do a search in the forums for more up to date info.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sports-music#post-66954 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:30:47 +0000 Craig 66954@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You can <a href="http://www.smartsound.com/sonicfire/music.html" title="download royalty free music">download royalty free music</a> from SmartSound.com.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-65068 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:48:59 +0000 VinnyC01 65068@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>birdcatcher - did you find a solution?</p> <p>This is exactly what I do for HS teams;  we tape and record to 2 dvd's as we record with 2 sony DVD Directss (about $180 each) and you'll need any camea (I use a mini dv) with a fire wire outlet.  I use an old JV that no longer functions, as it does not record during the process, only transfers video feed to dvd player.</p> <p> </p> <p>Email - TheCoach-at-mchss-dot-net with any questions</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/shark-cam#post-64940 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:55:52 +0000 vid-e-o-man 64940@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Great video! I couldn't help wondering how you get the sharks to sign a release. I guess their compensation was the Tuna.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/shark-cam#post-64933 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:10:52 +0000 micjayger 64933@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>That is Awesome Shark Video!  One of my buddies mounted a GoPro cam to the bottom of his airplane it seemed to work pretty good</p> <p><a href="http://www.dryfireproductions.com">ww.dryfireproductions.com</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sports-highlight-film-038-editing#post-64560 Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:55:59 +0000 faqvideo 64560@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have started with shooting weddings and ballroom dancing tournaments. Don't laugh, it's Olympic Sports nowadays. Pretty intensive sport. It eventually sidetracked into a local TV show. But overall it was just an extra income dependable on selling copies to the parents.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/shark-cam#post-63963 Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:07:20 +0000 composite1 63963@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>It's been a while since I've put up videos. I rectify that with a really cool vid by Eric Cheng of his experiments using the GoPro Sports camera and it's standard underwater housing vs the teeth of several sharks! Kids don't try this with your fancy P2 and EX cameras!</p> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/15273716">GoPro Underwater Shark Experiment, Full</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/echeng">Eric Cheng</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sports-highlight-film-038-editing#post-63536 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:34:57 +0000 ophelia 63536@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>To "hidnwings":  Here is a better idea: Begin your video with either a still shot of the player (in uniform with the _team number_ showing clearly) or a _VERY_ short video segment of the player (in uniform / team number clearly shown) introducing themselves.  Coaches are well-versed in reading the field/court if they know ahead of time what _number_ to focus on.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sports-highlight-film-038-editing#post-63513 Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:14:29 +0000 birdcat 63513@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I did several of these for my sons HS basketball teammates.</p> <p>I just edited all the video I had (I was at every game) and made about a ten minute reel showing each of them, rather than the whole team.  Make sure you show offense, defense and teamwork, not just him scoring.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sports-highlight-film-038-editing#post-63512 Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:05:08 +0000 hidnwings 63512@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Can anyone suggest a way to highlight a single player in a video?  I filmed my nephew's soccer games and now we have to submit to colleges, we need to somehow highlight him or have an arrow that will point to him through out the video.  Any help is appreciated. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/24p-playback-of-24p-video#post-63471 Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:33:23 +0000 XTR-91 63471@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>60i or 60p.</p> <p> </p> <p>24p is for convenient uploading online.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/24p-playback-of-24p-video#post-63459 Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:28:47 +0000 bbi bogdao 63459@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>30 fps is not too much? 24 is the usual no?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-63300 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 13:27:32 +0000 iankinnz 63300@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I have a copy of Adobe On Location CS3 on a lap top and it will record silmutaniously on the laptop from your GL2 firewire, in AVI, exactly what is going to the tape. each scene is in a separate file and is easily edited. On Location comes bundled with Premier Pro. I am not sure if you can buy it as a stand alone product.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-63297 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:47:00 +0000 Cville 63297@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> A friend of uses a Toshiba dvd recorder with a fire wire connection for recording single camera shoots direct to a dvd so he can hand them the dvd right after the event.  He also records on his camera tape so he has a backup.</p> <p>I own one of the toshiba recorders but have not tried this.  I got mine for under $100 at sams club.  They are not exactly a field recorder you will need 120v power for the unit.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-63282 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:31:57 +0000 XTR-91 63282@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>There is definetly such a thing as a Firewire hub, but you will need to make sure it records streaming video and has a convenient way of battery power if there is no outlet.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-63271 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 05:19:54 +0000 birdcatcher 63271@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks for your quick responses. I'd seen some pretty specific instructions for recording to a DVD deck online and wondered if other alternatives have been successfully adopted. Folks at the electronics stores in my area are not particularly adept at answering such questions or providing answers. Will look into both options. The "Scenealyzer" intrigues me as I've never heard of it. Will investigate both. Thanks again.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-63239 Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:06:54 +0000 SteveMann 63239@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have used Scenalyzer to capture three SD cameras to an external hard-disk on a laptop.  (This was about five years ago on a dual-core laptop)  Perfect for what you are trying to do.</p> <p>3 DV cameras<br />Firewire hub<br />Firewire Externall HDD</p> <p>I would imagine that a quad-core laptop would work even faster.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-63228 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:44:55 +0000 EarlC 63228@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>According to this 2004 review at camcorderinfo.com there should be two ways to record out to another device. I have one but have never attempted to do any recording to an external device except using the firewire port and an appropriate cable. The review states:</p> <p>Ports: The GL2 contains all the standard ports for connecting your camcorder to external devices. Transfer of digital stills is done via a USB port. The camcorder includes a single standard DV IEEE 1394 (Firewire) in/out port for transferring video from camcorder to computer. The camera also has a mini RCA port with a cable which converts the mini RCA into full-size RCA ports. This port can function both as an in and out port just like the S-Video port on the GL2.</p> <p>I suspect that like the XL1 system the GL2 remote control has to be used to prevent certain information visible in the viewfinder from being burned onto your external device.</p> <p>Regarding use of an external device, I've used XL1 units paired with an old Panasonic MX12 mixer via S-Video and audio outputs into an equally old Casablanca standalone editing system, and onto the unit's hard drive. I've also fed the GL2 firewire output into that device.</p> <p>Your most simple solution, probably, is to acquire a standalone consumer DVD burner deck or VCR/DVDR deck with either/and/or S-Video, RCA analog, firewire I/O. You have the camcorder so YOU do the experimenting, I don't have time to confirm, but you should be able to make it happen.</p> <p>If I were seriously needing to confirm this capability I'd go to the nearest store electronics department that sells these standalone recording boxes, bring my GL2, the remote, and the three cables for video, plus my audio cable and a tape, tell the salesperson if the unit works as a record-passthrough while my camera is also recording to tape I'll buy it. Then test that sucker and see if it can work.</p> <p>Your most difficult situation is if your GL2 is NOT a stationary unit on a tripod, and if you do not have AC available to your DVD recorder box. If you run and gun like I have done with sports related videotaping, then a much more expensive portable firewire HD system mounted to camera or stay with tape-to-system ingestion and remain up all night are the only other options I see available to you.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/request-for-help-recording-from-gl2-directly-another-device#post-63227 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:22:42 +0000 birdcatcher 63227@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I record sports for a small college teams using my own Canon GL2. The color and sound are great and the production timeline has been manageable. I'd shoot a game on tape one evening, do a little editing overnight and deliver discs to coaches the next morning. </p> <p>Because of changes in the conference, we'll need to produce discs for the opposing team right after the game. Consequently, we need to record directly to some type of device in real time. I've seen several concepts used at other schools...outputting the signal to a computer, recording to a DVD deck, etc. but am looking for the simplest, most cost-effective method. </p> <p>Does anyone have a recommendation? Details are appreciated...</p> <p>Incidentally, I still plan to record to tape as well, for archival purposes...I'll use that copy to create highlight reels!</p>