http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: Soundbooth - Recent Posts en Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:52:57 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-43527 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:44:00 +0000 Robo 43527@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Why dont you record to the camara to the computer using a LAV , Or A Stage mic. Then captrue into SoundBooth , I have done it this way without a clean room or a mixing board and it works and its not a hassle and no extra Cost.</p> <p>Does you Cam have XLR connetcters?</p> <p>Is the Voice over the only sound in the track or are you trying to do track recording with the Music?</p> <p>Is the IMac sound card Full-duplex?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-43345 Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:06:46 +0000 Don 43345@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> a "snowball usb mic" or similar, may be all you need for a mic.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-43341 Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:54:18 +0000 Trace1Media 43341@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> UPDATE:</p> <p>I was able to achieve the results I wanted with an old JVC mixer connected directly into the 1/8" microphone input on my mac and a cheap Shure mic connected via XLR to the mixer.  The quality certain wasn't perfect but worked great for my project.  Is is possible that the input on my computer needed a line level signal rather than the mic level it was getting before I had the mixer? either way the mixer helped significantly. A pop filter was also very helpful. </p> <p>I don't know why people were suggesting an A/D converter, Doesn't the computer convert the signal to digital?   </p> <p> </p> <p>Thanks for all the posts!</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41963 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:56:22 +0000 birdcat 41963@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>A couple more suggestions:</p> <p>There are a couple of things you can do - For plosives (P, B, T, etc...) you can get a pop filter (for example: <a href="http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Nady-Metal-Pop-Filter?sku=426600">http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Nady-Metal-Pop-Filter?sku=426600</a>).</p> <p>For a sound booth, look at this article: <a href="http://www.harlanhogan.com/portaboothArticle.shtml">http://www.harlanhogan.com/portaboothArticle.shtml</a><br /> - He sells them but you can make your own if desired.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41960 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:31 +0000 EarlC 41960@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Zoom H2 ="portable digital audio recorder." Works for me, as I noted I am going this direction more and more.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41954 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:51:58 +0000 normklobetanz 41954@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Thanks, Earl.  Yes, I have tried to build sound booths, etc.  To deal with the s and p sounds and other inadvertent audio issues while recording narration, I use multiple takes listening with head phones and setting the levels manually in the camera, then piecing together in nle and there make final tweeks.  But all this is too cumbersome and time consuming for the videos I often produce on a limited budget.  I often am making a short video for a client's web site and edit video and write narration as I go along.  Then I record my own voice as the narrator and splice it in (sometimes use my wife).  I have a new higher end project and want to come up with a more professional narration.  I should point out that I am not talking about video interviews; I am talking about anonymous narrators.  I need to find a talent and I will probably use my lavalier and camera in a quiet remote outdoor setting (no wind or human caused sound--my videos are virtually all outdoor related). This seams to give me the best results.  The problem with this is it will be very difficult to make narration changes later as the edit evolves.  My videos usually involve many clips drawn from my extensive stock footage with footage shot for a specific project and the videos tend to evolve a little from the original script as the editing progresses.  I also would like to streamline and improve my work flow so as not to have to capture narration from the camera, but simply copy and past from a digital recorder (of course making adjustments as needed in the nle).  I don't need perfect sound quality and hope that a portable digital audio recorder will do the trick.  I would appreciate any other comments.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41942 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:48:14 +0000 EarlC 41942@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have used racks with heavy, movers type, blankets draped over them in a sound baffle setup; also have several sides of refrigerator boxes cut into panels with egg cartons on some, and pretty much whatever kind of foam scraps I can find, or buy cheap, glued to them. These all help to isolate exterior noises for narrative, or a vocalist with guitar, using mics as mentioned above.</p> <p>While an external mixer helps get the general levels the way you want them, a noise gate/limiter will help cut back on pops, s and p sounds, inadvertent audio expulsions and the inadvertent boost in sound an untrained narrator makes when taking in the next breath and comes off louder for the first few words before he/she gets their voice remodulated.</p> <p>All kinds of fun, and funny, stuff goes on when trying to control and record narrative. If I can get the acoustics, I can usually find a way to get the rest the way I want - levels, etc.</p> <p>Actually, I am beginning to use my Zoom H2 standalone recorders more and more in many narrative cases, then simply working the audio into my production from those files. Not perfect, but then what is, really. These babies are GREAT tools and I've been pleased with their capabilities.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41930 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:00:56 +0000 normklobetanz 41930@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>   I often have to add narration/voice-over to my own videos or videos I am hired to produce for others.  I'm still with mini-DV and don't have XLR set ups.  ( Actually I have an AKG Perception 100 XLR microphone with a USB adaptor. I tried recording narration directly into the computer--apparently the phantom power through the USB port was not enough as the volume is not enough and it distorts or is too tiny when boosting it enough in post.)  The best voice-over I get is with my inexpensive wireless lavaliers.  However, the hassle of setting up and recording all the necessary takes on camera and then capturing all this (deleting the unwanted video after capture) is too time consuming.  I have been looking at the newer Portable Digital Audio Recorders.  My research shows that they will record a voice-over in .wav and have the quality using their on-board mics to simply copy and past to my PC and nle.  What a time saver!  It also could be used to capture natural and back ground sound.  If only I knew if the quality was good enough.  I am considering the Sony PCM--D50 ($400 to $500, ouch!), or the more reasonable Tascam DR-1 ($200 to $300).  I would like to get some feed back on this approach.  I'm tired of buying products that don't measure up and can't afford the high end stuff. Recording and capturing voice-overs with a camera is cumbersome and too time consuming if one has to do it often.  Has anyone tried the approach I am considering?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41210 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:42:41 +0000 TheLoneBanana 41210@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I sometimes have to record narration, but I'm an amateur videographer and not an amateur sound recordist. What I do: the narrator speaks into my Shure SM58 microphone, which goes through my Mackie 1402-VLZ3 mixer (I can boost the audio or avoid clipping -- very handy with soft-spoken or loud individuals), then into my Canon XL2. Then I capture the tape as usual, discard the (blank) video track, and voila! I have found that using this method yields better audio than recording through my computer's sound card, and I already have all the equipment, so there's no extra expenditure. And it's portable.</p> <p>As for an accoustically-good room: I may have been known to sneak up to my local university's Music Department. They have small rehearsal rooms for the students studying Voice, and these are just big enough and often vacant in the evenings. Better if you know a student or otherwise have permission, of course.</p> <p>Hardly a professional solution, but it works.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41207 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:32:38 +0000 NewBirthProductions 41207@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If you are recording directly to computer then the answer is no, a stand alone mixer will not help much.  You already have a mixer in soundtrack pro.  You can add a midi controller if you like to make it feel more like a mixer, but it will have nothing to do with how it sounds.</p> <p>A few things affect sound quality, one metion above is acoustic.  and the pro gear to fix this is expensive, but there are some cheap fixes.  If you have a room that you can dedicate to recording you can treat this room by installing a thick pad under your carpet, and then carpet your walls.  you do not have to cover the entire wall but just the areas that are reflecting your audio.</p> <p>The next area that affects your Quality is the AD converter.  you say your using the mic input from the mac, while this is ok for Ichat, it doesn't even come close to being good enough for recording a project.  you will have to buy a good A/D converter.  this is the primary key to getting a good recording.  spend your money here on getting a good mic preamp and a good A/D converter.  If you want to save money you can combined them such as the MOTU 8 Pre, this will give you 8 channels of input.</p> <p>the next area is Mics, hence that is the start of the chain it should be your strongest link.  you can have the best of everything if your mic can not produce a quality as good as the rest of the system then you have wasted money.</p> <p>hope this helps, a good mic that you can use for both audio and gutiar is the EV RE20 <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/76681-REG/Electro_Voice_16207816_RE20_Cardoid_Voiceover.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/76681-REG/Electro_Voice_16207816_RE20_Cardoid_Voiceover.html</a> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41205 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:28:10 +0000 birdcat 41205@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>A good acoustic environment will work wonders but it is expensive - I have seen small soundbooths which are good for spoken or solo vocals but you couldn't get a guitar in there.</p> <p>A good condenser mic and mixer (with phantom power) will also help but you will need a very quiet space as these tend to pick up those pins when they drop.</p> <p>You could also go with a decent dynamic mic (like a SM57 or SM58) and mixer - These are great for a non-pristine acoustic environment as they are cardioid so they don't pick up lots of extraneous sound.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-want-to-record-quality-narration-would-a-mixer-help#post-41189 Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:38:07 +0000 Trace1Media 41189@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I want to be able to record narration, singing, guitar etc. I would like to record right to soundtrack pro or soundbooth. When I go straight into the Computers(imac) mic input, the level of volume is too low and quality is unexceptable.</p> <p>I've increased internal input volume in system preferences and soundtrack pro. I've also tried a variety of microphones. still no good!  </p> <p>Questions </p> <p>1. Will a firewire mixer be compatible with my programs, allowing me to record multiple tracks simultaneously?</p> <p>2. Will a firewire mixer noticeably increase quality? </p> <p>3. What type of microphone would work best with this setup?</p> <p>I have a project coming up that requires some voice over that needs to be fairly decent quality.   THANKS. </p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/premiere-questions#post-37368 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:03:55 +0000 chrisColorado 37368@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hey Horsepoet!  You mean Sony Vegas Pro?</p> <p>I LOVE Vegas because it is easier for me to understand, being an audio guy. I love that you can see the audio waveforms automatically, there is only one view screen(unlike Avid and Final Cut Pro), no importing to a project window(After Effects and Premiere?) or browser(Final Cut Pro) and no special modes to doing normal stuff in the timeline like trimming(Avid). Some people dislike Vegas because it is so different from other video editors, but that's one thing I like about it. Very different. It's what I started with if you don't count Windows Movie Maker.</p> <p>To finish up with, <strong>I don't see a reason why you'd pick Vegas or Premiere instead of the other.</strong> They seem about the same level, though Premiere seems to be more popular. Sit down and mess with Premiere. Premiere seems to be more like the other editors out there. Vegas is different. I just REALLY like Vegas and never tried Premiere.</p> <p>But I'm going to change that now. Thanks everyone! Very helpful.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/premiere-questions#post-37364 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:07:18 +0000 Horsepoet 37364@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi all,</p> <p>I am new to video and certainly new to video editing. I plan to be video taping horses for training segments. I purchased Premier Pro with my system and have found it hard to understand, use for a novice although it may be just sitting down and doing it. However!</p> <p>Can anyone tell me why I would use Sony Pro over Premiere or the other way around? Are there real feature differences or is it more a matter of choice?</p> <p>thanks so much,</p> <p>horsepoet</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/premiere-questions#post-37355 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:11:48 +0000 jerronsmith 37355@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Everyone has made great points so far, just a couple of things:</p> <p>From the Premiere Pro  Help files about Time Remapping:</p> <p><strong>"You can speed up, slow down, play backward, or freeze video portions of a clip using the Time Remapping effect. Using speed keyframes, you can change speed numerous times within the same clip. For example, in a clip of a man walking, you can show him moving forward quickly, slowing suddenly, stopping mid-step, and even walking backward, before resuming his forward motion. Unlike Clip Speed/Duration which applies a constant speed across the entire clip, Time Remapping allows you to vary the speed throughout the clip, and to ease in or ease out speed changes.</strong></p> <p><strong>You can apply time remapping only to instances of clips in the Timeline, not to master clips.</strong></p> <p><strong>When you vary the speed of a clip with linked audio and video, the audio remains linked to the video, but remains at 100% speed, regardless of changes to the video speed. It won’t remain synchronized.</strong></p> <p><strong>You create variable speed changes by applying speed keyframes, either in the Effect Controls panel or in a clip instance in a video track of the Timeline. Applying speed keyframes in either location is similar to keyframing Motion, Opacity or any other keyframe effect, with one notable difference: a speed keyframe can be split to create a transition between two different playback speeds. When first applied to a track item, any change in playback speed on either side of a speed keyframe is instantaneous at that frame. When the speed keyframe is dragged apart and spread out beyond one frame, the halves form a speed change transition. Here, you can apply linear or smooth curves to ease in or ease out the change between playback speeds."</strong></p> <p> I actually like time remappoing in AE a bit better than in Premiere. I just think it is smoother to apply and work with.</p> <p>The responses above are correct, Soundbooth was created specifically to be Audition light. It was intended to allow video editors and animators who are often unfamiliar with working with sound the ability to quickly edit and sweeten audio files. The integration between Premiere and Soundbooth allows you to jump from the Premiere pro timeline directly to Soundbooth to edit audio, which is a pretty standard suite integration these days. </p> <p>It is very surely not a mixing program though as it is at the moment a single track editor. You can download a beta copy of SoundBooth CS4 at <a href="http://labs.adobe.com " rel="nofollow">http://labs.adobe.com </a> that is multi-track though.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/premiere-questions#post-37354 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:44:14 +0000 chrisColorado 37354@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yes! Sound Forge is great! It's what got me into Vegas in the first place.</p> <p>Thanks guys! Anyone else?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/premiere-questions#post-37343 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:23:44 +0000 film814 37343@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If you're looking at Audition and Soundbooth, definitely go with Audition.  Audition is closer to a Professional DAW.  Soundbooth is really a basic audio editor for professionals on the go.  If you like Vegas, then you could also try Sony Sound Forge.  It's a top-notch program that I think can compete with Audition.  It's not quite as powerful as ProTools, but it's great for most videographers needs.</p> <p>Jeremy</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/premiere-questions#post-37340 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:43:16 +0000 butterflyguy 37340@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Premiere CS3 can do all the stuff you want.</p> <p>Soundbooth comes with Premiere - you have to buy Audition as a separate program.</p> <p>The disadvantage with Soundbooth is that right now it is not multi-channel, but that is going</p> <p>to change - there's a Beta version out now that will allow multiple versions of audio.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/premiere-questions#post-37330 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:57:43 +0000 chrisColorado 37330@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hey, Premiere crowd! I'm a Final Cut, Avid, Vegas and Windows Movie Maker guy who is investigating Premiere, Audition and Soundbooth. I had a few questions:</p> <p>1. Can Premiere do time remapping and freeze frames like After Effects and Final Cut?</p> <p>2. Which do you like better - Audition or Soundbooth?</p> <p>Thanks! </p>