http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: software - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:17:46 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-to-be-able-to-send-client-video-files#post-74013 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:33:12 +0000 mv 74013@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I use Go Daddy's File Folder to send files to my clients. Small sample files, mind you, 1000 MB limit. Cost $10 a year. Simple to upload and send.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-to-be-able-to-send-client-video-files#post-74011 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:29:19 +0000 Lee 74011@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I have yousendit, I need help with software/hardware</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-to-be-able-to-send-client-video-files#post-73985 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:56:29 +0000 MediaFish 73985@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>dropbox.com works very well.  Free version gives you 2gb of space and the more you invite to view the more space you can gain for free.  It works for us.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-editing-software-advice#post-73981 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:56:34 +0000 jimeagle1 73981@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>From your description I presume you wish to do this in real time with the incoming video from each of the cameras.  Is this correct?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-to-be-able-to-send-client-video-files#post-73979 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:21:44 +0000 BruceMol 73979@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>less spam (after joining) with toobigforemail.com</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-to-be-able-to-send-client-video-files#post-73978 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:12:17 +0000 amberemckenzie 73978@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Have you tried using YouSendIt? That's a good way of sending larger files.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-editing-software-advice#post-73939 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:16:12 +0000 Weddingmaster 73939@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> would it be easier to mount 3 small hd cams that use sd cards and do all the assembly in post? just a thought...</p> <p>Harry</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-editing-software-advice#post-73934 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:43:30 +0000 Phil 73934@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi All,</p> <p>Am new to the forum and new to the world of video editing. I have a project in mind but I want to make sure I get the right software to achieve what I am looking for. </p> <p>Have recently installed a PC in my car which I occasionally take to the track. I plan to install 2 or 3 cameras linked to the PC, 1 facing forward, 1 backward and possibly one facing the driver. </p> <p>Initially I am looking for some software which will allow me to produce a video with the front camera as the main image with the other 2 images embedded, but with the ability to switch the images around at times of interest. I figure this should not be hard to do with most video editing software available. </p> <p>However, I also have a cable which will pull data from the car, things such as speed, throttle position etc. It generates an excel file with constantly updated values which are also time stamped (to the millisecond level). I want some software which will allow me to create animated objects based on this data which I can layer onto the video. For example I want to create an object similar to an analog speedometer and animate it to show the actual speed of the car time synced with the video images.</p> <p>I work in the control automation industry creating control systems for power plants, oil rigs etc and think the creation of the objects and linking to the data will not be too difficult as long as i can find some software that can handle bringing all the aspects together.</p> <p>Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-are-these-types-of-videos-made-in#post-73810 Fri, 06 Jan 2012 07:00:39 +0000 MediaFish 73810@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have made many of these in Adobe After Effects.  If you have ever flown on JetBlue or Frontier and watched their inflight Entrainment ads or movie trailers on their movie channels (all very similar) - almost all were made in After Effects (motion graphics).</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-are-these-types-of-videos-made-in#post-73808 Fri, 06 Jan 2012 06:47:03 +0000 Justin 73808@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Are these done in Flash or Premeir Pro?</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COvrf6NoCog" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COvrf6NoCog</a></p> <p>And do you all know of any good tutorials or resources for creating these types of text effects?</p> <p>Thanks in advance for any help!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lightweight-easy-to-use-chroma-software#post-73778 Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:37:04 +0000 Bill Dillon 73778@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;I use Adobe Premiere Elements 8 for my green screen stuff.&nbsp; It's not perfect but for $79 it does a pretty good job.&nbsp; I think version 10 is the latest.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lightweight-easy-to-use-chroma-software#post-73777 Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:11:09 +0000 Ian James Smith 73777@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>This post has been moved.</p> <p><a href="http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-this-possible-with-green-screen#post-73779">http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-this-possible-with-green-screen#post-73779</a></p> <p>Sorry for any inconvenience,</p> <p>Videomaker editors</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lightweight-easy-to-use-chroma-software#post-73708 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:13:07 +0000 signmax 73708@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi again,</p> <p>Pinnacle Studio 14 or 15 is a good starter solution, a step over this is Avid Studio.  If you want to start using low budget go to Home Hardware and buy Philipps Swirl lamp (Bright light) is 5000K lamp, buy from store a medium green cloth (Green color like CMYK 60-0-70-20) or Pantone DS 284-3C and you are in business. Also you can use common neon (Day Light) but don't mix light source.</p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>YR </p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lightweight-easy-to-use-chroma-software#post-73693 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:09:53 +0000 DNSVideo 73693@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I use Pinnacle Studio 14 HD Ultimate to my Green screen shooting, it has a easy to work with green screen package.  There are a ton of videos on Youtube on how to green screen, cheap and easy if you want.  Between this site and Youtube, you should be able to green screen any video you want, very easily.</p> <p><a href="http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Home+Video/Studio+Family/Studio+Ultimate+15.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Home+Video/Studio+Family/Studio+Ultimate+15.htm</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lightweight-easy-to-use-chroma-software#post-73544 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:59:20 +0000 signmax 73544@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi,</p> <p>Low price software have about same technology and naturally offer same performance. With low price product the background represent one surface and must be lighted more uniformely, and the background must be smooth as possible. Talent about 6 feet in front and camera about 6 to 9 feet in front of talent that means you need a room with a minimum of 12 feet x 17 feet long (24 better) at least 4 black box, 2 to light the green screen and 2 for the talent + a small lamp to light the should in the back. If you light using a good setup any software can fit your work. That means with the eye dropper you pickup the green color and with the other button you adjust the pixel range value that all pixel inside this range becomes transparent. With time you learn and you need to buy all you need starting from a good software and light boxes, good green screen background etc...</p> <p>You can start easily without to invest too much.</p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>YR</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lightweight-easy-to-use-chroma-software#post-73538 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:54:33 +0000 Damion 73538@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi folks,<br />I have been researching info on videography and chroma-keying for the past few days. I am wanting to do some videos (instructional and others) with virtual studios. I have downloaded a few demos of software but thought I would just ask...</p> <p>What is the best keying software that is both economical (say, around $100 or less if possible) and provides an easy to use keying and editing interface? I want easy, but I also want to appear quality without having to pay significantly for it. I do have Adobe After Effects 5.0 but it is kind of old (around 10 years old I think??) and I haven't been able to get anything to work with it.</p> <p>Thanks<br />Damion</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/looking-for-add-software#post-72935 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:02:50 +0000 Will Faulkner 72935@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi all. I am looking around for some software.</p> <p>I want to be able to sell my films to shops to play in restaurants and pubs etc.</p> <p>I also want the short films to be interlaced with advertisments for local businesses.</p> <p>These businesses would pay the broadcasting establishement a fee for how many times per day their add is played on the in house TV.</p> <p>So I as the videographer make money on the purchasing of the films to be shown plus the selling and instilation of the sooftware and even the TV if needed.</p> <p>Is there a software out there that will allow me to deliver this and change the comntent regularly and deliver play stats to the advertiser? </p> <p>Thanks.</p> <p>Will from Australia.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72807 Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:57:54 +0000 Shawn Lam 72807@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks @composite1.  I don't see any problems with using a gaming laptop for editing on Premiere Pro CS5.5, other than the potential to wear-out your laptop quicker and if your operating system drive is cluttered.  <strong>If you are editing on a laptop with a single hard drive then you will want to be using an external hard drive or RAID solution</strong> anyways and you can always just take your external storage solution over to your desktop to complete the project.</p> <p>Now let's be careful with the term "workstation class video card".  Adobe and NVIDIA certified four gaming class desktop graphics cards, in addition to several Quadro cards.  Most reviewers only review the Quadro cards and justify that the NVIDIA GeForce graphics cards are often "manufactured" by third parties.  I think the term "manufactured" is used loosely too as NVIDIA makes the GPU and the third party assembles but I'm not too concerned about a gaming video card not having the same durability.  Gamers push their video cards and systems to the limits for sustained periods of time and as long as you stick with a reputable third-party manufacturer, you should be fine.  But if your card does fail, the cost of the original and a replacement will still be less than the cost of buying a Quafro card.</p> <p>The funny thing about trying to find a "workstation" class laptop with a Quadro card is that it is very difficult.  There are very few available off the shelf and if you wanted one you would have to custom order it, wait longer, and pay double or more than you would with a gaming class system.</p> <p>And then there is the discussion on performance.  <strong>Adobe and NVIDIA would have you think that Quadro cards outperform GeForce cards, but the opposite is true.</strong>  </p> <p>Have a look as the results from the <a title="Premiere Pro Benchmark" href="http://www.ppbm5.com/DB-PPBM5-2.php">PPBM5</a> and you will see that of the top 100 systems, only six have Quadro cards and the top performing system with a Quadro card only made it to position #32.</p> <p>In my <a title="Vancouver Videographer" href="http://www.shawnlam.ca/">Vancouver Video Production Company</a>, I mainly use desktop computers with gaming class graphics cards (from the certified list) for editing but I do run Premiere Pro on a laptop for when I am on the road.  As I mentioned previously, it only has an NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M card, which is not on the list, but I unlocked it and it improves both quality and render time.  </p> <p>Here are some test results to show how important GPU is for encoding time:<br /><strong>1920x1080 60i AVCHD footage - 32 seconds (no effects)*</strong></p> <p>Export to 720 30P H.264 1 pass VBR<br /><strong>CPU only with max render quality:  2m47s<br />CPU only with no max render quality:  1m04s*<br />GPU with max render quality: 0m43s</strong></p> <p>*note1:  Adding effects would only exaggerate the time gap between GPU and CPU times.<br />*note2:  I don't recommend CPU with no max render quality but provided it for illustration purposes.  GPU acceleration automatically enables a higher quality encode and GPU with Max Render Quality ensures that video with effects that are not GPU accelerated still are rendered at Max Render Quality.  In this case there is not time difference between the two GPU options as there are no effects.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72783 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:30:17 +0000 composite1 72783@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Cristo,</p> <p>I concur with Shawn's advice. I would not recommend having a laptop for gaming and editing. The requirements for both are different. Used to be gaming GPU's were a great alternative for video editing. Now, Premiere has changed the game and it's all about 'workstation-class' video cards. To take advantage of the Mercury Playback Engine, you'll need an NVIDIA workstation rated card which as Shawn mentioned is listed on the Adobe Premiere Pro system requirements page.</p> <p>Editing requires many more computer resources and requires regular maintenance. You want to keep your maindrive clutter-free as possible to cut down on data log jams when editing. Games take up massive data resources especially if you're an online gamer. Also, gaming will wear your laptop out sooner than will editing. Besides, if something happens to your maindrive because of a gaming malfunction there's the potential of the laptop losing the capacity to edit. That would suck if you had a project in pocket and decided to take a break to play LOTR with your bro's online and some bug gassed your harddrive.</p> <p>Food for thought.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72779 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:47:05 +0000 Shawn Lam 72779@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The CPU is good but you definitely want a laptop with an NVIDIA video card.  The reason is that you can take advantage of GPU acceleration, that improves rendering speed AND render quality!</p> <p>My blog post explains that part:</p> <p><a title="Adobe Premiere CS5.5 review" href="http://www.shawnlam.ca/2011/adobe-cs5-5-max-render-quality-nvidia-gpu-acceleration/">Vancouver Video Production Blog:  Adobe CS5.5 Max Render Quality and GPU Acceleration.</a></p> <p>Now not just any NVIDIA card will automatically unlock the GPU acceleration but if your card is fast enough then it is very easy to unlock this functionality.</p> <p>There is a link in the comment section of this blog post discussing how to easily unlock the GPU acceleration.  BTW, In my laptop I have a 360M card.</p> <p><a title="Vancouver Videographer Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 Review" href="http://www.shawnlam.ca/2011/adobe-premiere-pro-cs5-5-review-by-shawn-lam/">Vancouver Videographer - Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 review</a></p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72454 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:29:36 +0000 Christo Kj 72454@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Is this<br /> laptop good enough for Premiere Pro CS 5.5?</p> <p>About the<br /> laptop:</p> <p> </p> <p>INTEL Core i7-2760QM firekjernet prosessor, 2.4GHz,<br /> 6MB SmartCache</p> <p>8GB DDR3 SO-DIMM 1333MHz (2x4GB)</p> <p>AMD Radeon HD<br /> 6990M 2GB GDDR5</p> <p>&lt;table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"&gt;<br /> &lt;tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;td width="100%"&gt;</p> <p>500GB<br /> SATA 7200RPM</p> <p>&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;/tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;/table&gt;</p> <p> </p> <p>&lt;table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"&gt;<br /> &lt;tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;td width="100%"&gt;</p> <p>I know that Adobe is workin with nvidia but I don't<br /> have the money for nvidia 580M. So<br /> how is AMD 6990M  with Premier pro?</p> <p>&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;/tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;/table&gt;</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/control-3ds-max-virtual-camera-with-iphone-ipad#post-71635 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:19:23 +0000 grinner 71635@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I'm having a hard time understanding how this could be beneficial.</p> <p>How/why would you use this?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/control-3ds-max-virtual-camera-with-iphone-ipad#post-71615 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:10:43 +0000 Krama 71615@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>An interesting <strong>iPhone / iPad app</strong> has been launched through iTunes<br /> App store. With iDevCam you can control the virtual camera inside 3ds<br /> Max! You can move, rotate and drive your virtual camera by simply move,<br /> rotate or drive your iPhone / iPad.</p> <p>No more need of a multi-dollar equipment to control your 3D virtual camera.</p> <p><a href="http://blog.krama.tv/idevcam-iphone-ipad-app-that-controls-the-3ds-max-camera/">Read more about iDevCam </a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-editor-software-for-linux-supporting-mov-file-please-help#post-70622 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:14:47 +0000 John Tate 70622@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;On ubuntu the best editor is&nbsp;Cinelerra, its&nbsp;the best option for&nbsp;the ubuntu O/S. Its an advanced editor.&nbsp;A more basic editor for&nbsp;ubuntu is Kdenlive, which is good too. I recommend you get a windows or apple O/S and use for editing.&nbsp;Linux just doesn't have any really good editing software yet. Most of the avaliable editors crash, have no people that use them that can help you, and just can't compare to windows and/or apples&nbsp;editoring software.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-editor-software-for-linux-supporting-mov-file-please-help#post-70291 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:48:11 +0000 Larry Haney 70291@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hey there Albert,</p> <p>I have looked long and hard to find video software for Linux that was mature enough to use for professional video production. You don't say what type of software you are looking for, but here's my two cents worth. As a video editor/compositor; Cinelerra is a powerful professional tool, yet it is hard to install properly, and even then all features may not work well or at all on Ubuntu. It does have the advantage of using the Cinelerra authored Quicktime4Linux library which works well on .mov files with lots of codec support. I have used it professionally but with much anguish. Lots of tutorials (no matter what your experience level, go through the beginners tuts as they provide much needed info) and there is at least one repository which has a Debian package and several Ubuntu packages if you look in the Ubuntu forum. I found the best way was to compile my own, it worked better on my PC. Lots of tutorials both video and otherwise on the web.</p> <p>Kino will import and export .mov files but will not give you much use other than straight cut editing and some very standard looking wipes, plus a few simple effects. It can be a little confusing on how to use it but at least try it out. When I was working in Linux I used it mainly to capture and to convert files from one format to another. There are some tutorials if you think it's good enough for the use you're putting it to.</p> <p>Blender has some new editing features if you have the fortitude to go through the learning curve, but the editing feature is rather immature just yet, and a little harder to use than say Premiere. The compositing features available to you in Blender are enormous, but again that annoying learning curve.</p> <p>Everything else I've used on Linux in the past has had the misfortune of being Windows Movie Maker quality, and perhaps more immature than that.</p> <p>Give these a try, you may find what you're looking for. Hope this helped.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-editor-software-for-linux-supporting-mov-file-please-help#post-70268 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:37:16 +0000 albert 70268@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi there,</p> <p>I use ubuntu 11.04 (linux) and cant find any software supporting MOV file (canon S95). I remember that I had same problem some time ago when using windows platform.</p> <p>I'll be using software for editing diving movies, so I need something powerful but not too complicated... I find iMovie, which accepts MOV file, simple and reliable for this kind of work... Unfortunately, cant use iMovie on Ubuntu...</p> <p>Need some help!! I've been looking around for some time but no success...</p> <p>Thanks in advance!!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/software-for-organizing-and-cataloging-video-clips#post-68832 Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:54:37 +0000 Ian James Smith 68832@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Melissa, Another thought just occurred to me, since I have had the need to review footage taken of a walking-trip along our coastline culminating in a 'climb' of a local feature, 'Highcliff'. I have been over this ground several times, with up to 100 shots on each occasion, although, admittedly, the average would be about 50. This solution consists of using a TMPGEnc product 'Video Mastering Works 5'. On loading a batch of files into that, they are displayed as quite substantial thumbnails in a vertical 'rack' formation. There does not seem to be any limit on the number of shots which are able to be added.</p> <p> Video Mastering Works exists for a final 'polish' to be put onto shots, last minute adjustments of colour-bias etc. It also allows for clips to be cut to length, if need be, and cropping and other useful modifications. But, the great thing is that a thumbnail of each shot is visible and available for further processing. I simply load the programme, load the shots into it, where they are organised into numerical order and use the information available, for my own purposes, which may/may not not involve further processing, but merely sorting shots into some sort of order. A 'save' at any time, makes the programme available for any future editing session. My Video Editor, Magix 'MEP17Plus', runs quite well alongside Video Mastering Works, and review of everything, (plus the opportunity to make corrections etc. if need-be), is continuously available. Best of all situations, really.</p> <p> After logging-in my shots on the evening of their being taken, usually, I also make copies in high-grade mpg2, for a backup data-storage system which I use. The load/save information serves for that purpose as well. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/software-for-organizing-and-cataloging-video-clips#post-68819 Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:46:19 +0000 Melissa Nischan 68819@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks, Ian!  I will check them out.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/software-for-organizing-and-cataloging-video-clips#post-68780 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:49:26 +0000 Ian James Smith 68780@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Melissa, I might be able to help. 'TMPGEnc' has just such a programme, (forgive my spelling if you are in the US; I am in New Zealand), called 'Karma'. The version I used, with considerable satisfaction, was the best of all prices, it was free at the time I test-drove it. I have an idea that it is available in two versions, and that the 'lite' version might still be free. I only abandoned it when my mass of footage began to overflow it, somewhat. (I recently filled my 100th DVD of virgin-footage, and that was simply too much for it). I believe 'Magix' also has a similar programme for keeping tabs on still photographs and it may also be a 'freebie'. It serves quite well for video, but is bit slow in my experience. I use the 'pool' system in my video-editor Magix 'MEP-17 Pro Plus', and a single click from the pool of footage, runs each clip on the monitor screen as a preview; two clicks loads it onto the timeline. Another possibility is the German-sourced Ashampoo 'Photo-Commander' (now up to v9.) as it shows a thumbnail for each clip, which is able to be 'run' on demand, plus comprehensive statistics alongside the thumbnail. It 'costs', but the price is not 'way up there in the stratosphere, and best of all, you may check it out for 40 days before parting-out any of your 'hard-earned'.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/software-for-organizing-and-cataloging-video-clips#post-68739 Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:27:16 +0000 Melissa Nischan 68739@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi all,</p> <p>I am just curious what people are using to organize and catalog their video clips (for Windows).  I have come across several nice-looking consumer grade software programs for Macs, but I haven't found anything quite like them for a Windows computer.  I have seen a couple pro-level software packages, but they were very pricey.</p> <p>thanks,</p> <p>mktaj</p> <p> </p>