http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: SD - Recent Posts en Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:36:08 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/nikon-d4-announced-uses-new-xqd-memory-card#post-73826 Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:31:53 +0000 John Eric 73826@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Meet the XQD Memory Card. Works with Nikon D4!</p> <p>A few days ago The Com­pact Flash Asso­ci­a­tion announced a new for­mat<br /> to replace CF cards for pro­fes­sional pho­tog­ra­phers, and HDLSR<br /> film­mak­ers. The new for­mat is called XQD, and has a phys­i­cal size<br /> that falls between CF and SD cards (it is thicker than SD cards, but<br /> smaller than CF cards). The inter­face used is PCI Express, with real<br /> world write speeds around 125MB/s, even­tu­ally being able to exceed 2<br /> ter­abytes of capac­ity!</p> <p>Find out more from the link below:<br /> <a href="http://eduardoangel.com/2012/01/06/meet-the-xqd-memory-card-works-with-nikon-d4/" title="External link" rel="nofollow external">http://www.eduardoangel.com/2012/01/06/meet-the-xqd-memory-card-works-with-nikon-d4/</a></p> <p>Also Read more about the New NIKON D4 Camera System!!<br /> <a href="http://www.nikon.com/news/2012/0106_flagship_01.htm" title="External link" rel="nofollow external">http://www.nikon.com...flagship_01.htm</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sd-in-169#post-72495 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:51:45 +0000 Wayne 72495@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Bill Dillon writes,  "Thanks for the input and I guess I'll leave the aspect ratio at 4:3."   Bill, if you could not see the difference between the two clips, then why leave it at 4:3 and have to view everything with those black bars on the sides? The future is widescreen. Set that thing to 16:9 and enjoy the full picture!</p> <p>  Wayne  </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sd-in-169#post-72488 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:14:37 +0000 Bill Dillon 72488@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I made a 20 sec vid of the front yard in 16:9 and a 20 sec vid of the back yard in 4:3.&nbsp; Captured them in Adobe Premiere Elements 8 and rendered as an MPEG2 and save to a USB drive.&nbsp; Plugged the USB drive into the HDTV and played it.&nbsp; Other than the change of scene (front yard to back) I could not tell a difference between the two clips.</p> <p>Thanks for the input and I guess I'll leave the aspect ratio at 4:3.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sd-in-169#post-72469 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:39:12 +0000 doublehamm 72469@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Depends on the camera.  If it is scaling to 740x480 for 16:19 it is a good thing (DVD quality).  Some cameras actually chop pixels off the 640x480 SD footage to make it 16:9.  If this is the case, I would stick with 4:3</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sd-in-169#post-72465 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:46:33 +0000 robGRAUERT 72465@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The difference is your 16:9 footage will be enlarged and fill your HD screen completely. With 4:3 footage, the image is enlarged, but black bars remain on the sides because the aspect ratio don't match.</p> <p>I don't think there is a difference in quality. I believe both the 4:3 and 16:9 footage are upscaled equally. But the upscaled 16:9 is probably more pleasing to look at.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sd-in-169#post-72463 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:23:56 +0000 Bill Dillon 72463@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;I have a consumer grade Panasonic PV-GS90P camcorder.&nbsp; One of the setup options on it is aspect ratio 16:9 or 4:3.&nbsp; I've always had it set on 4:3 and always had standard definition televisions in the house.&nbsp; We now have two high definition TVs.&nbsp; Is there any pluses or minuses to changing the aspect ratio to 16:9?&nbsp; Am I taking the same number of pixels and spreading them out?&nbsp; This is a newbie question but that's how guys like me learn.&nbsp; From the pros.</p> <p>Thank you</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71642 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:50:19 +0000 pseudosafari 71642@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I mix all the time, too.  I mix HD with footage from outdoor trail cameras.  When done correctly it gives the videos what I like to call "flavor."  You can put them full screen with an explanation so the audience understands the different quality.  You can put them PIP so they're small and don't pixelate out.  Sometimes I mask the HD video and implant the smaller SD video in it, depending on the effect I'm looking for.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71631 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:09:36 +0000 grinner 71631@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I mix em all the time. Never been a problem/big deal.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71628 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:52:04 +0000 Charles Schultz 71628@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You can create an SD video from the HD just make sure that you capture the HD video so that everything is in the safe portion for SD and it should come out fine.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71625 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:54:25 +0000 Bill Dillon 71625@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;Thanks for the input.&nbsp; The reason I asked is my wife is going on a hot air balloon ride in a couple weeks.&nbsp; She'll shoot some SD footage from the balloon and I was going to shoot HD footage from the ground.&nbsp; After hearing the comments, I think I'll shoot SD footage instead.&nbsp; Thanks again.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71618 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:21:53 +0000 EarlC 71618@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Primarily Bill, the outcome will be how you instruct your NLE and how your NLE will handle mixing standard definition and high definition resources. When using a program that easily handles both it would be equally easy for an inexperienced editor to wind up with something that looks and plays horribly due to unplanned application of 4:3 aspect (640x480 pixels) ratio and 16x9 widescreen with its assortment of  (and the gamut of HD-rated resolutions from 1,280x720 pixels (720p) to 1,920x1,080 pixels (1080i/1080p) for starters). That unplanned outcome could come out looking radically unattractive.</p> <p>And, when applying the range of SD vs HD, high definition has a bounty of recording formats from HDCAM &amp; variants, to DVCPro HD, AVC, XD HD, AVCHD, HDV and others ... you can wind up with a convoluted mess if you haphazardly mix any or all of these ... NOT SAYING this is your intent or the scope of your question, but still.</p> <p>Then, of course, there's the fact that a person can also shoot some type of widescreen with some SD model camcorders, and the resulting playback from all these elements might not work well on the end user's system, which might, or not, have up-res capabilities. Blah, blah, blah ...</p> <p>So, the answer is technically, yes you can (I know nothing about your Premiere Elements 8 or its capabilities for this) but the echo is do you REALLY WANT to do this? Like commercial productions that use old footage, amateur footage, mixed quality to represent footage shot with crappy security cameras, up and down the quality scale in an effort to represent these various elements in the storytelling process, a planned approach might work for mixing these, or dirtying up resource footage to represent one or more types, including SD &amp; HD.</p> <p>So, to goof around, practice and explore the boundaries, there's nothing that says you cannot, and many have in fact done so. But when doing something "serious" or commercial, you might want to establish your reasons for mixing the two an be sure you can make it WORK together the way you intended.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71617 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:14:24 +0000 birdcat 71617@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Different aspect ratios - 16 X 9 vs. 4 X 3 - You're gonna have to crop or letterbox</p> <p>Different resolution - 1920 X 1080 vs. 720 X 480 - You're gonna lose data moving down or lose clarity (and probably add pixelization) moving up.</p> <p>That said, I have done this with acceptable results.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71616 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:29:30 +0000 Bill Dillon 71616@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;What would the consequences be?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71613 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:20:37 +0000 doublehamm 71613@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>No rules against it, so long as you understand the consequences.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ok-to-mix-hd-and-sd#post-71612 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:10:35 +0000 Bill Dillon 71612@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;I haven't tried this but is it OK, technically, to mix HD and SD?&nbsp; I'm using Premiere Elements 8 for editing?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/panasonic-sd90-too-much-noise#post-71223 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:12:56 +0000 Kenkyusha 71223@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;Unfortunately, HD cameras eat light.&nbsp; There might be some mode changes that you can make while shooting in low-light that may redeem at least some future shoots-things like&nbsp;decreasing shutter speed make a huge difference.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/panasonic-sd90-too-much-noise#post-71208 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:14:34 +0000 spiross 71208@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello,</p> <p>I am completely new to video editing, and I started by buying a panasonic sd 90 which was what my current budget would allow me (+ batteries sd cards tripods etc). </p> <p>Before purchasing I read some reviews (all where good to excellent) and I researched some sample videos online, all of which looked pretty good for a cam of this budget.</p> <p>Now that I use it though, have noticed that the camera produces allot of noise, even in bright light- which is not very visible after the video is compressed, so I did not notice on the samples I watched online. Videos taken after dark, even in relatively well lit environments (such as bussy bar streets) are pretty useless. Is this normal for such a camera? I am bluffed because I thought it would produce at least decent videos.</p> <p>Thanks allotÃ? </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-vs-sd-for-wildlifeshort-films#post-68312 Tue, 31 May 2011 18:34:58 +0000 vid-e-o-man 68312@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> jbetz, I don't know if you are still monitoring this thread but my suggestions for your situation would be the Sony nex 5 or nex 10. I don't have any experience with them but I have seen some excellent footage. They take interchangeable lenses. They have a few proprietary lenses and some shooters are using other lenses but without using the autofocus. Adaptors make almost an infinite variety to be used, maybe some old prime lenses from previous 35mm days. Keep shooting. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-vs-sd-for-wildlifeshort-films#post-68301 Mon, 30 May 2011 20:08:11 +0000 Ian James Smith 68301@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I have the same problem, with a HD camera approaching the top of my wish-list. I also have another problem, namely that it will be used for filming portions of a documentary series which I commenced in October 2005. Recently, we capitulated, at last, to the 'obvious' and bought a modern flat-screen TV and video/recorder-player. Our initial recordings were of the BBC 'Life' series of Natural History docos. A copy could only be downloaded from the video-recorder in mpg2, because of DVD limitations and so I did so. Seeing that the camcorder I intend to buy shortly is also 'Panasonic' and fully compatible, I intend to shoot in HD, but allow the recorder to do the mpg2 transcoding, which it does brilliantly on our example. I will have the advantage, as I see it, of first-rate Standard definition, which at 720 x 576 will be a breeze to edit without 'proxies' and by downloading and storing my 'Hi-Def' footage for possible future use, options for the future, should I need them. I have excellent mpg2 codecs of my own, installed, and that way I can ensure continuity of what I am doing, and enjoy all of the advantages.</p> <p>I prefer mpg2 currently to many of the more modern formats. It has had a huge amount of research/development, go into it and avoids the pixel-clustering tendencies of many contemporary formats, when they are not set up optimally.</p> <p> One more note, it is all in 16:9 widescreen, which I have used exclusively since 1975, using in those days, a 16mm Bolex reflex and anamorphic lens. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-7d-or-videocamera-hd-or-sd-avchd-editing-problems-worth-it-opinions#post-67247 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:57:12 +0000 Orpheus 67247@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks everyone for all the advice, but a month later (from my initial post) I still haven't really settled on anything yet.  I still sort of feel like I should wait for the "miracle" camera that seems like it can't be too far off.  I was hoping the National Association of Broadcasters convention would announce something that I could really get behind, but that plan didn't really pan out.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-mts-to-standard-dvd-in-sony-vegas-and-dvd-architect#post-67195 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:42:34 +0000 panasoniccadd 67195@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Import/Convert Sony SR12 AVCHD Videos export WMV to Sony Vegas Pro 8 <br />Recently I have purchased a Sony HDR-SR12 and Vegas Pro 8 bundle from B&amp;H. When I transferred some HD video, AVCHD to be specifically, to my PC for editing in Vegas 8 Pro I get a "format not supported" error. I just couldn't believe it! If Sony Vegas Pro 8 can not handle 1920*1080 AVCHD videos whey B&amp;H sell the two as a bundle in the first place? <br />I'm all new to video stuff and editing as well, I just need a simple solution to help me import SR12 AVCHD files to Vegas Pro 8 successfully. I've tried Picture Motion Browser PMB for my editing purpose as someone suggested on some forum, but the software crash so often that I can barely get it to work. From some threads on creativecow, I tried out a program called <strong><a href="http://www.aunsoft.com/final-mate/">Aunsoft Final Mate</a></strong>, which is exclusively designed assistant software for HD camcorder users proclaimed by its developer Aunsoft Studio. Honestly speaking, I'm very happy with the result. As far as I can tell, <a href="http://www.aunsoft.com/convert_sony_hdr_sr12_avchd_videos_export_wmv_to_sony_vegas_pro_8/">converted videos from Sony SR12 AVCHD 1920*1080 M2TS videos to Sony Vegas</a> WMV(VC-1) format work smoothly on Sony Vegas Pro 8 and there is no degradation of picture quality from naked eyes. <br /><img src="http://www.aunsoft.com/img/guide/guide-20110413/convert-avchd-to-sony-vegas.jpg" /> <br />Besides that, Aunsoft Final Mate also allows me to <strong><br /><a href="http://www.aunsoft.com/final-mate/manage_the_movies_in_the_program.html">merge all my AVCHD video clips into one single file</a></strong> on a timeline basis, which have saved lots of time for me. <br /><img src="http://www.aunsoft.com/img/online-help/final-mate/create-a-movie-by-adding-to-timeline.jpg" /> <br />I recommend this product for people who have similar problems with me about AVCHD importing to Sony Vegas Pro 8. At the same time, try not buy the Sony SR12 and Vegas Pro 8 bundle. Trust me. It's not a happy experience.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-7d-or-videocamera-hd-or-sd-avchd-editing-problems-worth-it-opinions#post-66947 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:17:16 +0000 Cinebasics 66947@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>My opinion is since you're doing mostly internet work plus DVD's I would get this: <a href="http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_267070_-1" rel="nofollow">http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_267070_-1</a></p> <p>With a rig from here: <a href="http://www.indisystem.com/products" rel="nofollow">http://www.indisystem.com/products</a></p> <p>And this for sound: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Portable-Digital-Recorder-Headphones/dp/B0048HU3GC" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Portable-Digital-Recorder-Headphones/dp/B0048HU3GC</a></p> <p>So the camera, plus an extra 200mm lens, the rig, and the sound etc., plus cases, accessories, should cost no more than 2,000. Yes the GH2 and 7D are great and all but the T2i has sound input, great video and it's CHEAP. For internet and DVD it's fantastic. Then add Cineform to transcode all your footage from AVCHD to the special Cinfeform AVI files.</p> <p> It costs 120.00 here - <a href="http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/</a></p> <p>And after it's all said and done, if you have any extra money get this;http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/magic-bullet-looks/  I have a coupon for 20% off on my blog. This will save you oh so much time in color correction it's not even funny. If you can afford the whole suite it includes everything you need to convert all your DSLR footage, denoise it, color correct it, and damn well everything else.</p> <p>You can have great video, great sills, a decent rig, ability to use AVCHD and all for 2,000. That's what I'd do.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/post-production-monitor-questions#post-66789 Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:10:54 +0000 composite1 66789@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Specwar,</p> <p>Yes, just edit your projects in HD and then cut out an uncompressed digital print that contains all your effects and color correction, titles and what not as the finished product. Use that as your master copy to make your SD version and later on if needed a Blu-Ray version. View it in HD while you're editing on your HD monitor. When you res it down to SD, view that version on an SD capable monitor to make sure you're good to go. Long as you set up the original template correctly for HD you will be fine for everything else.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/post-production-monitor-questions#post-66764 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:30:11 +0000 navyspecwarfare 66764@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>It has been a long time...I remember you helping me out almost a year ago...many thanks.</p> <p>Finally finished shooting...300+ GB of footage.  Will make 25 completed DVDs when finished with post-production...finally am getting to editing now...just wanted to clear some things up before spending a lot of time doing it as I don't want to have to undo anything later. </p> <p>Is it safe to say then that I should just set up my template in Vegas as HD, do my editing as such, outputting via HDMI or DVI to my 1920 x 1080 LCD, and then just render as MPEG-2 for DVD output or HD for Blu-Ray of my choosing? -or will that cause problems when my template doesn't match the output/render as settings?</p> <p>Logically, I would think it wouldn't matter as the project file within Vegas should be the same regardless, and that only it's output format would change when rendering...</p> <p>Want to make sure it's done right though...</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-mts-to-standard-dvd-in-sony-vegas-and-dvd-architect#post-66762 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:20:01 +0000 XTR-91 66762@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>render:</p> <p>8.5mbps</p> <p>MPEG-2</p> <p>720x480</p> <p>60i</p> <p> </p> <p>then import to dvd architect</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/post-production-monitor-questions#post-66761 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18:53 +0000 composite1 66761@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Specwar,</p> <p>Do your edit in the native footage (i.e. HD.) Make an HD digital print (the entire project burnt out to an uncompressed AVI or Quicktime movie. Take that DP and then transfer it into an SD 16x9 version for DVD. When you're ready to author you'll have the HD version to use.</p> <p>If you can set up your monitor via HDMI, that should be your first choice. If you have a RGB RCA cable to hook up to an HD TV or monitor if you don't have HDMI. You need to view the HD footage on an HD capable monitor preferably in the native resolution (720p or 1080i/p.) When you want to see it in SD then use the SD version you made and reset your monitor for SD (720 x 480) to see it properly in that format.</p> <p>But definitely do your HD cut first with any transitions and color-correction/grading in the native format before making an SD version.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-mts-to-standard-dvd-in-sony-vegas-and-dvd-architect#post-66760 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18:49 +0000 six2735 66760@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I am using Vegas Pro 8.0 with DVD Architect 4.5, if you go to VASST web site and order their training DVD's you will get the information you need. They helped me tremendously. One of them is on sale. I ordered "Getting started with DVD Architect Volume 3" and Vegas Pro 8 "Vegas 8 Update". They also have some free plug ins for Vegas. their web site is (<a href="http://www.vasst.com">http://www.vasst.com</a>) I added parenthesis.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-mts-to-standard-dvd-in-sony-vegas-and-dvd-architect#post-66741 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:18:26 +0000 navyspecwarfare 66741@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Customize preview settings by unchecking automatically adjust preview playback settings. I do that so that I can run previews always at full/best.  Make sure you are running at least i7 Quadcore processor at minimum 2.8 Ghz.  Make sure you have at least 6GB of at least 1033 or 1333 mhz RAM.  I recommend 8+ gigs. </p> <p>Vegas likes processor power and RAM, not so much video card power. Unfortunately for the latter as I bought a $450 AMD Radeon 5870 when it came out hoping it would add mad power to Vegas, but it didn't.  Vegas likes processor and RAM power. </p> <p>Also, make sure you use three hard drives.  One for Windows, one for project media, and one for renders.  This will speed things up considerably.  If you can afford Solid State...get it.  </p> <p>I advise against RAID and favor SSD instead...I heard that for video editing, RAID can actually slow things down as contradictory as that seems...</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/post-production-monitor-questions#post-66739 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:01:07 +0000 navyspecwarfare 66739@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>So here goes...</p> <p>I shot an immense amount of footage in AVCHD from a Canon prosumer Vixia.  Have 1920 x 1080 .MTS files that now need editing. </p> <p>Here is the deal though...</p> <p>I originally shot it in HD, need to first release it in SD due to media prices, but then want the option to release it in HD later when blu-ray discs go down in price.  Need to know how to set-up the templates properly in Sony Vegas Pro as well as monitors for editing.  A bit confusing for me since I shot in HD, need to edit it but then output to SD, but then need to output in future to HD. </p> <p>My questions are as follows:</p> <p>1. </p> <p>How should I set-up the Sony Vegas Pro template for my project and for color correction?  Should I set it up as 1920 x 1080i HD even though it is going out first to standard definition 720 x 480? Or should I set up the template as 720 x 480 standard NTSC? How will the final decision affect future desires to output to Blu-ray as high definition? </p> <p>2. </p> <p>How should I set up the monitors for color correction?  Should I set up a CRT via firewire so that I can see what it looks like on a standard definition CRT?  Or should I output to a 1920 x 1080 LCD computer monitor? Or both?  Will color correcting in one format (HD) make it look funky in another format (SD) and vice-versa? </p> <p>What to recommend since I originally shot it in HD, need to first release it in SD, but then want the option to release it in HD later? </p> <p>Many thanks for the help; in the gurus I trust!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-7d-or-videocamera-hd-or-sd-avchd-editing-problems-worth-it-opinions#post-66596 Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:44:12 +0000 Tim Kline 66596@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>We Film with a Panasonic HMC-40, HMC-150 and Cannon 7D.  What I have found is that both work in various situations.  The Cannon 7d is amazing for fast paced artistic shots, and we also us it on a Helicopter.  The lenses (are super expensive) but worth it for versatility reasons.  Only Problem with the 7d, Video wise, is that it will overheat if you are shooting for long periods of time.  We usually shoot with both the Panasonic HMC (under 2,000) and the 7d.  Prices are substantially dropping on both since the Industry will be moving to a 1 giant sensor this year in April.  Lots of new stuff coming out, but sounds like if your in a budget, start with the 7d.  Way more versitile then the others.  Just my opinion.</p> <p>If you want to take a look at both and the different shot selection, go to our Video link on our site.  Most of the Videos are shot with both, and you can see the difference.</p> <p><a title="Video Shots Cannon 7d and Panasonic hmc" href="http://www.fourtenvisuals.com">http://www.fourtenvisuals.com</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.fourtenvisuals.com/video.html">http://www.fourtenvisuals.com/video.html</a></p>