http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: release - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:19:18 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/public-shooting#post-59435 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:16:23 +0000 2ten 59435@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> That's the route I was leaning.  We already releases from the 3 people interviewed.  I always appreciate the good feedback given here.  Thanks again.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/public-shooting#post-59434 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:54:55 +0000 composite1 59434@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>210,</p> <p>In that other post Grinner called it about 'getting a permit'. Technically, if it's a news event (i.e. a protest etc.) you generally don't need one. In your case the venue being a market of some sort, it would be best if you get written permission from the flea market organizers to shoot there. Yes, there are tons of general releases you can use for on-camera interviews, but in a pinch ask the person to be interviewed (while recording) if they would like to participate if they say no, move on. Persons in your b-roll crowd shots don't require releases unless you focus on a particular individual and identify them specifically.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/public-shooting#post-59429 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:37:00 +0000 2ten 59429@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Ok I saw a simliar post here: <a href="http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/police-checks-on-videographers">http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/police-checks-on-videographers</a></p> <p>That was from a Brit though and I would rather hear from someone in the US.  I am editing a documentary (I did not shoot) that we are working to get aired on PBS.  I need some additional B roll footage to break up the interviews.  We plan to shoot in a local open air market (read flea market).  As there any kind of release that needs to be signed by the location or the people appearing on screen?  I know someone out there has some experience with this sort of thing.  (No audio would be used from this shot, at least not of any copyrighted music, maybe some ambient sound).</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/talent-releaseopting-out-after-the-fact#post-57866 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:29:27 +0000 grinner 57866@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> He signed the release. It's the client's property. If they wanna use it, do what they want.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/talent-releaseopting-out-after-the-fact#post-57858 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:53:00 +0000 Don 57858@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>That is why you have a release, and a contract, to cover your butt.</p> <p>reply and cc the client about the issue, informing them you intend to deliver as per the contract and agreements and give a quote on the costs to re-edit, re-shoot or otherwise re-do the project and inform them you expect to be paid for whatever changes they want at this point and suggest they work it out between themselves as far as who is responsible to pay you for what.</p> <p>The prospect of a legal fight or having to pay costs may be enough to deter them from pursuing the matter further.</p> <p>I'm assuming the talent is pertinent to the production, as I personally NEVER have anybody or anything in the picture on a commercial project, that isn't pertinent, in the first place.</p> <p>like Earl said:</p> <p>"I am NOT a licensed legal attorney, and the above is STRICTLY opinion based on personal experiences. The above does not in any way mean to confirm or imply the comments are legally accurate or true or binding. Any action taken as a result of the above opinion is solely at your own risk, and I am NOT liable for loss or damages of any nature, real or perceived by anyone reading or using this information."</p> <p>I'm not alwyer and don't even play one on tv.</p> <p> </p> <p>My opinion is the talent may be trying to squeeze people for more money. Not your problem. Getting sued is not the same thing as losing a lawsuit.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/talent-releaseopting-out-after-the-fact#post-57844 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:51:08 +0000 EarlC 57844@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>First: You really need to acquire the advice of licensed legal counsel. You'll get opinions here, unless of course one of us is a licensed legal attorney - could be, but then he/she wouldn't likely be willing to give you FREE advice beyond a short "consultation".</p> <p>Second: The way things have been for a long, long time just about anybody can sue anybody for anything. It might get thrown out as frivolous or otherwise "go away" but the act of litigation itself is going to cost SOMEBODY money, and both parties some of their precious time.</p> <p>That being said: It is MY personal experience regarding this (and it has happened to me a time or two) that unless the talent is a MUST INCLUDE part of a production, a deal-breaker as far as completing the project, then after consulting with the primary client (the one who's signature is on the contract/agreement) to get their take (and suggestions from their legal advisors) my approach is to let the rabbit go - don't want or need the potential future problems.</p> <p>If the talent's inclusion is CRUCIAL to the production, and he/she has been properly treated and compensated according to the release and/or any written or witnessed agreement between talent and your client, then that can be a problem both ways but you probably are covered and the "talent" is held by the short hairs. I say this because if all is proper between talent my CLIENT has acquired an agreement with, and if the talent has requested release from his/her signed release to either of us in writing, backed by an attorney and injunction or other papers filed in court - all things considered the signed release is probably binding.</p> <p>Talent can, however, make a LOT of claims in a suit, frivolous or otherwise, that can slam the production doors shut until all questions are decided upon between counsel or in a court of law - potentially years, my friend.</p> <p>YOU, however, might have an agreement/contract such that if any of this unpleasantry arises either your client, or the talent, will be in breach of contract. That, also, sad to say, usually winds up being decided in a court o law.</p> <p>So, we're back to square one - is inclusion of the "talent" critical to the production? If not, shake 'em loose. If they are critical to the production then, notification by e-mail, phone or in writing aside, it will likely still become an expensive, time-consuming matter taking years and requiring a court decision or legal compromise between counsel and parties involved.</p> <p>I am NOT a licensed legal attorney, and the above is STRICTLY opinion based on personal experiences. The above does not in any way mean to confirm or imply the comments are legally accurate or true or binding. Any action taken as a result of the above opinion is solely at your own risk, and I am NOT liable for loss or damages of any nature, real or perceived by anyone reading or using this information.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/talent-releaseopting-out-after-the-fact#post-57838 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:45:20 +0000 success999 57838@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi Everyone, </p> <p><strong>Issue:</strong> My production company produced a video for a client. The client provided talent for the video production. The main talent (one individual) has decided to not be in the final edited production. This one person (talent) did sign a talent release form giving their permission that the footage would be used in the final edited production. Update: The talent notified me via phone and email that they did not want to be in the final edited production. </p> <p><strong>Question</strong>: What is my legal duty to honor his wishes to not be in the final edited video? Can I be sued as a production company if I knowingly still keep him in the final production even though he wrote to me and made it clear that he does not want to be in the final edited production? Do the laws vary from state to state or are they federal laws, etc? Note: The said talent did sign and date a talent release form. I have read that the talent release is not always written in stone and that the talent can always ask to be edited out at anytime - perhaps if I refuse to honor his wishes he can sue me and the client?</p> <p>Thank you ahead of time for anyone who can help me with this very important questions. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-52701 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:58:24 +0000 grinner 52701@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> much appriciated, Rudy.</p> <p>Be careful out there. You are rolling the dice when travelling or engaging with the homeless/mentally ill. I consider myself fortunate to have such a vast background in hanging with mentally-challenged people. When I was a kid, my Mom drove all the special ed kids to school and that meant my riding with em. This, by default, made me their protectyor on the playground as school yard kids can be veeeery abusive to special needs children. I also had a little brother that had severe brain dammage and passed away when I was very  young. As a result of these experiences, you'll never see me laugh at retardation but, brother, you'll never see me insult someone with a retardation by pittying them either. IN a nutshell, this is why Beatle Bob and I bonded so well. Some hate him. Some laugh at him. I envy him. We should all be so lucky.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-52699 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:31:57 +0000 Don 52699@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I think you'd serve these people better by hiring them as consultants for scriptwriting, method actors to build authenticity into your project. Pay them for thier input, then re-create with actors.</p> <p>I've mentioned before that I was a homeless person, as a teen.</p> <p>I assure you, While both my family, and Child and Family Services had no issues with abusing me or throwing me out on the street like I was garbage.....</p> <p>If you had filmed my story then, with me being under eighteen, CFS would've been suing you or charging you for something to cover up thier horrendous treatment of me, and the same family that tossed me out with the trash would have shown up with hands out or lawers looking for a paycheck.</p> <p>Then there is the mentally ill not fit to make descisions that come back later looking for something. </p> <p>You want to do a news reportage of a situation, you report it, you're covered legally... for the most part.</p> <p>You want to do a documentary, hire a lawyer to close up the loopholes first or you could wind up losing alot of money.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-52697 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:00:33 +0000 rudypohl 52697@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi There:</p> <p>I just found this website and joined this forum. Am fairly new to video but learning fast and loving it. I went to Grinner Hester's site and watched the Beatle Bob doc and I have to tell you, it's awesome!! It really is! Grinner, I love your stuff! </p> <p>I have been helping serve some of the homeless and street folks in Ottawa, Canada, for a number of years and I too have a desire to do some kind of documentary that would be of benefit to them and others. I'll be following this thread.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Rudy in Ottawa</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-52696 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:36:13 +0000 visualdrome 52696@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi, I'm Fabrizio from Italy,<br />I'm planning to realize a video project about menthal health,<br />interviewing people in 2 countries (ex. Italy and another one)<br />and collect  A lot of short clips (1 minute each);<br />later on I would to compose those videos using the Korsakow system<br />obtaining a non linear video<br />here the user can jump form a clip to another one<br />thanks to meta tags:<br />is anybody interested on this project?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-51356 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:47:30 +0000 TheWildlifeStudio 51356@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I have two autistic spectrum affected grandsons and, at the behest of their mother, am doing a doc regarding them. A number of officials in the local education departments are extremely interested in the outcome!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-51337 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:02:08 +0000 oc6088 51337@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>My son is autistic and my husband and I are his legal guardians.  This is meant to protect him.  Keep in mind, even if he gave his consent for you to film him, his consent is null and void without the consent of his guardians.  The problem is, our son doesn't even understand that he can't make the decision.</p> <p>Most mentally ill people have guardians.  Talk to his caretakers and they should be able to point you in the correct direction.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-50603 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:15:51 +0000 grinner 50603@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Skip the release. It'll only put em on edge and I think you can assume they have no lawyer on retainer. lol<br /> I went on a road trip with the infamous Beatle Bob. I knew he was homeless and assumed he was autistic. I wound up with a 90 minute feature and nobody in it, including the music legends sprinkled throughout cared about release forms. I hate em. I shoot reality. You can't get that after having folks sign a legal document. It's much easier for me to submit it to them for their approval first and nine times out of ten, that leads to gigs for them directly.<br /> you can watch it here, if you like:<br /> <a href="http://grinnerhester.com/BeatleBob.html" rel="nofollow">http://grinnerhester.com/BeatleBob.html</a> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-44157 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:29:53 +0000 Don 44157@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> You can do the "Repeat After Me" routine, get on film.</p> <p>one little caveat to keep in mind....</p> <p>Mental health issues could also mean not competant  to give legal consent.</p> <p>If you make money with your project, your subjects, or more likely some relative of your subjects may show up with a lawyer wanting to get paid...</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-44152 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:53:36 +0000 EarlC 44152@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> When I have interviewed "street people" in the past (never really developed into the documentary I wanted it to be) I usually only asked them to give me a verbal acceptance on tape (with or without their names - sometimes it was really challenging to get them to share their names/ages. Also most of them either mumble, speak very low, while the others yell, gesture and speak extremely loud and somewhat disconnected/incoherent, not always making much sense)</p> <p>Out of a few dozen "interviews" (the term used somewhat lightly), only one was willing to write/sign anything for me.</p> <p>Good luck with your efforts, it can be challenging but can also result in something very powerful. I hope you get from it what you are looking for. Keep us posted, if you will.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-44147 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:05:34 +0000 robGRAUERT 44147@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> would they have a caretaker? their signature may be enough. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/interviewing-homelessmentally-ill#post-44146 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:16:28 +0000 onedogdan 44146@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi all,</p> <p> I'm seriously considering shooting a doc about mental illness.  How do you get a person who may not even have i.d. or be of completely sound mind to sign over their likenesses?  Video tape them reading the release?</p> <p> Thanks!</p> <p>-Dan</p>