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Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: professional - Recent Posts http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: professional - Recent Posts en Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:09:19 +0000 Don on "Light professional camcorder for UAV" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/light-professional-camcorder-for-uav#post-72468 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:08:57 +0000 Don 72468@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ contour or gopro are the closest I can think of add an eye-fi card to the gopro.... forget about zooming. Luis on "Light professional camcorder for UAV" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/light-professional-camcorder-for-uav#post-72466 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:47:37 +0000 Luis 72466@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I am putting together an UAV to shoot HD video. I want the camera to have many professional qualities but unfortunately I have a weight limit. Therefore I have to settle with what is completely required. These specs are: Full HD resolution, preferably with interchangeable lenses 10X Optical Zoom minimum Finally, a way to control the zoom remotely and wirelessly and if possible other camera functions. Audio is needed or even a recorder which I can plug externally. The tough part is that the camera, including the lenses and battery, has to be under 500 gr (18oz). Please, does anyone have any suggestions? composite1 on "High School Film Club" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/high-school-film-club#post-70656 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 08:12:15 +0000 composite1 70656@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Jack, $1500 is more than enough for you to get started. Right now, 'think small but work big' is going to be your mantra. Pick up a couple of decent video capable point and shoot cameras for less than $200 each. Get a couple of tripods for no more than $50 each and a small Joby tripod to do handheld stuff. Get two camera bags, 2-3 extra batteries for each camera. A pair of work lights and vellum paper from a craft store as diffusion material. Pick-up a Zoom H-1 recorder and a pair of headphones (smaller the better for storage) Then take what's left and get a computer and editing software like Sony Vegas Studio which is in that $100 range Birdcat mentioned. Oh and don't forget to get at least two SD Flash media cards for your cameras. 4-8GB will be good to start. The thing is to keep within your budget by not trying to get the 'coolest' most expensive stuff. Yeah, it'd be nice to have but you can't afford it and you're trying to get the most you can with what you have. Check out sales and deals with online retailers like Adorama.com and BHphotovideo.com among others. B&H has a good line of 'generic' batteries called 'Pearlstone' that work just the same as brand name and they're a lot cheaper! All you're trying to do is get up and running. With the gear I mentioned, you can easily do that. Start doing some projects and get them done you'll see interest grow and your fundraising efforts will get easier when you have something to show. Good luck. birdcat on "High School Film Club" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/high-school-film-club#post-70655 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 06:42:35 +0000 birdcat 70655@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Jack - First, kudos for your initiative in doing this. Second, you need much more than just a camera but since you've already been doing this I'm sure you know that. You'll need a computer (PC or MAC, your choice - see if your school can provide one), editing software (there are free ones but for less than $100 you'll be able to get one with the tools you'll need), support equipment (tripod, lights, mics, etc...) but you can do this inexpensively to start ($20 for a WalMart tripod, $30 for two or three Home Depot work lights, $20 for a mic, etc....). Your camera choice will be limited by how much money you have left, You certainly can continue with your Aiptek but may want to look around on eBay or Craig's List for a decent used camcorder - You will do very well if you only need SD but you can find bargains in HD as well. This is a start and I'm sure others will join in with their recommendations. The more info you can provide the better advice we all can offer. Jack Rosh on "High School Film Club" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/high-school-film-club#post-70650 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:22:28 +0000 Jack Rosh 70650@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I've recently set up a film club at my high school, but we have no equipment. I've always experimented with my own films on an HD Aiptek camcorder, but it's definitely not enough.. I don't have any defined experience in the area and I have no idea what camera to get. As of right now, our budget is $1500. We're working on some fundraising, but some money needs to go into good mics and lighting. So unless I come up with something fantastic for a bit more, my limit is $1500. I'm hoping for a professional appearance in the videos we produce. comanchee2011 on "Sony EVW-300 help needed" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-evw-300-help-needed#post-68955 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:55:35 +0000 comanchee2011 68955@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I just purchased a used EVW-300 camcorder and don't know how to set it up. Can anyone help with this? It worked when I got it, but the lens was dirty, so I took it off and cleaned it, put it back on and it hasn't worked since. All I get is black in the viewfinder, and sometimes it rolls like crazy. I also found that it has over 5K hours on the heads... is this thing shot? Thanks. Comanchee signmax on "Shotgun Mic for the TM700?" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/shotgun-mic-for-the-tm700#post-66751 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:54:06 +0000 signmax 66751@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi, The model I use if a small model compare to tradionnal model like Rode for the Panasonic TM 700 the only one to fit and avoid problem with zoom action is Sennheiser MKE400 the length is about 5 inches and not too heavy. This mic capture a better sound than the original camera mic and battery can last very longtime. Regards, YR birdcat on "Shotgun Mic for the TM700?" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/shotgun-mic-for-the-tm700#post-66750 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:45:55 +0000 birdcat 66750@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I don't have one but I have always heard good things about the Rode VideoMic - they have both a mono and a stereo version. Michael Woods on "Shotgun Mic for the TM700?" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/shotgun-mic-for-the-tm700#post-66748 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:38:01 +0000 Michael Woods 66748@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi. Can anyone recommend a good shotgun mic for the Panasonic TM700. I want to spend between $150 and $250. Not absolutely professional but a reasonable piece of equipment for the price. All suggestions appreciated. kylekap on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66125 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 20:10:51 +0000 kylekap 66125@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ XTR-91...thanks for the tip. I'll take a look at it. That is a pretty low cost, but strangely I can't find the camera on B&H. kylekap on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66094 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:48:13 +0000 kylekap 66094@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Yeah. That tape comparison was perfect in helping me understand this. Thanks for that. I guess I'm going to have to learn to think in different terms. A P2 reader and external hard drive is doable. I think I have all the info I need. Now it's just a question of how much am I willing to spend. I've looked at the 150 vs. the 170 on Vimeo. I definitely think the 170 has the better quality, but the 150 and AVCHD isn't so far behind that it wouldn't make a great starter camera. For the price. Thank you for all your help. This has been quite a process figuring out what I want and you were immensely helpful. robGRAUERT on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66093 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:19:21 +0000 robGRAUERT 66093@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ "What's wrong with just logging and transfering in FCP through the camera when the wedding is over?" You have to refer back to the days of tape. When a tape was full, what did you do? You stored that tape on the shelf. That was your master. You didn't capture the tape and then record over it, at least, I hope you didnt With P2 cards, you don't store the P2 card on a shelf and buy a new one. They're too expensive. So you backup the contents of the P2 card - the EXACT contents, the EXACT file structure. The contents of the P2 card are your master, just like the tape was your master. Once you back up the contents, you erase the P2 card and record over it. Make sense? The reason you don't want to Log and Transfer with FCP and simply save the .mov files is because you'll be stuck with only .mov files. That's not good if you want to use that same footage at a later date with another editing system, such as Avid. All editing systems are able to support the contents/file structure of the P2 card, but they don't all support .MOV. Luckily, you don't need to spend 1000-4000 dollars to back up a P2 card. You just need a P2 card reader and an external hard drive. Actually, you don't even need the P2 Card reader because you can use your camera, but that prevents you from continuing to shoot while you back up a card. So here's how you back up a P2 card: Lets say you only have 1 P2 card. Once it's full, mount it to your desktop. Then create a new folder and name it "Wedding_Reel1" Drag ALL of the EXACT contents of the P2 card into "Wedding_Reel1" Once that is complete, erase the card and fill it up again. Once it's full, mount it to the desktop and drag the contents into a folder called "Wedding_Reel2" Basically, each time you fill up a card, it's a new reel. You don't fill up a card 5 times but only throw the contents into one folder. Does this make sense? I would HIGHLY recommend figuring all this out before going on a shoot. If you unknowingly back up a card wrong, and then erase the card and continue recording, you are so SOL. XTR-91 on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66089 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 11:52:05 +0000 XTR-91 66089@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ What I meant is buy the MG505 on top of the Panasonic if you need a backup. Great video quality, certainly for $300, and it's got 3 CCDs. kylekap on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66080 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:23:50 +0000 kylekap 66080@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Okay. So I'm still sold on CCD over going with the CMOS, which still has me in Panasonic's corner. It's looking like my options are either the HMC150, the HPX170, or compromising getting a progressive scan and going for the HVX200, which still features Mini-DV recording (which would be killer easy for shooting weddings...this obviously being the format I've recorded them on in the past). If I can swing it financially, I'd like to go with the HPX170, since it seems to offer me the most options and best picture quality, but every workflow article I've read on the P2 cards says you should be backing up the cards in the field. What's wrong with just logging and transfering in FCP through the camera when the wedding is over? If it really is necessary to also purchase a device to back-up the cards in the field, then that's the nail in the coffin for P2 for me. I couldn't spend ANOTHER $1000-4000 for an external storage recorder. And you're half right, I'm no master at camera operation yet. Like I said before I'm just digging in now, and understand the basics of aperture, frame rate, color temp, etc. I've got a lot to learn, and I am buying a camera to learn on as well as shoot personal projects. But I want something I can knock a wedding out with too. XTR-91 on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66051 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:57:55 +0000 XTR-91 66051@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ get the mg505 (it's only $300) if you need a backup: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-GZ-MG505-Camcorder-Extras-/270712148000?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&hash=item3f07b39020">http://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-GZ-MG505-Camcorder-Extras-/270712148000?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&hash=item3f07b39020</a> robGRAUERT on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66042 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:12:10 +0000 robGRAUERT 66042@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ The new FCS does allow you to burn Blu-ray, but I don't believe you can make menus and all that nice stuff. So you don't really have Blu-ray authoring capabilities. It's just a Blu-ray that plays as soon as you pop it in the player. If that's all you need, then you're fine. There is nothing to be afraid of with the P2 workflow. It's no different from any other workflow that utilizes solid state recording. You mount the P2 card, backup the contents of the P2 while maintaining the exact file structure the camera created on the card, load it in FCP Log & Transfer, then ingest. It's very easy. The thing to be afraid of, which you mentioned, is the cost of P2 cards. Depending on the resolution and frame rate you record, you're looking at about 1GB per minute of DVCPro HD. A 64GB P2 card is $1000. Much more expensive than SDHC cards, but does have a 5 year warranty. There is always a cost vs quality issue with everything. You have to determine what will be acceptable for your clients and viewers, you have to plan for post, and you have to be honest about your skill level. Honestly, your clients probably wont look at your work and say, "Dude, why did you record AVCHD? DVCPro HD is way better!" Unless your client is another video geek, chances are they never sat down and compared AVCHD to DVCProHD, let alone know what those terms mean. What you do in post will help determine what you should shoot. If you intend to add a bunch of graphics/compositing/effects, or you want to do a lot of heavy color grading, DVCProHD will hold up better than AVCHD, hands down. But if you're doing strait cutting and only cutting, AVCHD will suffice. And finally, if you are just god awful at camera operation, DVCPro HD isn't going to save you. I'm not saying you are awful, I'm just saying client will most likely prefer nicely shot AVCHD over poorly shot DVCPro HD. I've never thought about CCD vs CMOS in low light because I'm lucky enough to shoot in controlled, well-lit situations. So I dunno the answer to that, but I always thought CMOS was better in that aspect. CMOS isn't bad with movement either. It really depends on how fast the movement is. You have to be panning (or the subject has to be moving) pretty fast to see the skewing that happens with CMOS. If your camera shakes a lot too, your image overall will warp like jello. It's way more annoying to look at than just plain ol' camera shake. The one thing I don't like about CMOS is the banding you get from flashes of light. That would probably happen at a wedding since there is a photographer. Basically, the way CMOS sensors create the image is a row of pixels at the top of the sensor record the light it sees, and then the sensor goes to the second row, and then the third row, and so on. So by the time the sensor gets to the bottom row, it's recording a different moment of time than the previous rows - the 1st row being off by the most. This is what creates the warping from fast movement and banding from flash photography. With a CCD, all pixels activate at the same time, so you don't get those effects because all pixels record the exact moment of time at the same time. Make sense? kylekap on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66041 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:27:37 +0000 kylekap 66041@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Wow Rob! Thanks for the help. This is all the nitty-gritty I'm just now starting to learn. A few insights on your comments followe up with, of course, a few more questions. The 1080p24 is primarily for shooting short movies with the intention of posting them online. I probably wouldn't shoot HD for the weddings, although I've heard the latest FCS update allows you to author Blu-rays, although you probably need an external blu-ray burner. I just purchased a 13" Macbook Pro, and I'm being told it can handle FCS fine, and I always have the option of upgrading the memory or using an external hard drive. I love the quality I've seen with the Panasonics versus the prosumer Sony and Canon's, but I'm afraid of the P2 workflow. I COULD upgrade to FCS, but what about when I'm in the middle of a 45-minute wedding ceremony? Those cards are expensive. I couldn't imagine paying for 2-3 of them on top of the camcorder. You're very knowledgeable. So what are your thoughts on CCD vs. CMOS? My research has led me to believe CMOS can't handle low-light or a lot of movement. Thanks again everyone. robGRAUERT on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66037 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:43:35 +0000 robGRAUERT 66037@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Just for the sake of clearing things up, P2 is a recording medium - just like tape. Your problem isn't that FCE doesn't support P2. Your problem is that it doesn't support DVCPro HD, the acquisition codec of higher end Panasonic camera. Sure, you could go with AVCHD as this is supported by FCE, but you're sacrificing quality since it's more compressed. Also, you're worried about upgrading to FCS because you think it will slow your computer down. Not only is that wrong, but working with AVCHD will slow your computer down more than DVCPro HD because the CPU will have to deal with the Long GOP compression of AVCHD. Also, why do you need to record 1080p24? If you chose to work with FCE, how are you going to deliver that? Apple doesn't really have anything to support Blu-ray yet. So that would be useless unless you've invested in another program and hardware that authors Blu-ray If you go with the HMC150, yes you can use the Letus adapter on it. kylekap on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-66032 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:00:07 +0000 kylekap 66032@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Thank you. I just started looking into this one and I'm starting to lean towards it. Can I still use a Letus or another 35mm adapter on this camcorder? Thank you again. I appreciate the feedback. CraftersOfLight on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-65989 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:43:50 +0000 CraftersOfLight 65989@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ AG-HMC150 1/3 3CCD, AVCHD, SDHC Card memory 1080/30P-24P kylekap on "Trying to decide on a prosumer camcorder, but concerned with P2 workflow." http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/trying-to-decide-on-a-prosumer-camcorder-but-concerned-with-p2-workflow#post-65988 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:12:44 +0000 kylekap 65988@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hello everyone. I'm new here, but I love the site and I love the forums. I've worked in independent film for about 4 years, but mostly as a co-producer and sometimes Unit Production Manager. I'm just now getting my hands dirty with the technical stuff. I've shot weddings before and want to buy a prosumer camcorder for future weddings and short movies. The whole wedding thing kind of rules out the DSLRs that are so popular now. I've been leaning toward Panasonic. Particularly the HPX-170. But I'm concerned with using the P2 technology. I wanted to edit via FCE 4.0 on my Macbook Pro, but I'm discovering FCE doesn't support P2. I'm wary to try upgrading to Final Cut Studio for fear it will slow my laptop down immensely. But I also wanted the CCD sensors vs. the CMOS that Sony and Canon are putting in all their cameras now, which leaves Panasonic as my only option. I looked at the HVX200 because it records P2 AND Mini-DV but I want a camera that records 1080p and 24p, and I feel like there is no perfect option for what I want. Here's what I want to do: Price - $2000-$4000 XLR inputs 1080p and 24p 1/3" CCD (ideally) Any ideas? Please help! I'm drowning in specs. gdaley76 on "Canon GL2 vs XL1S" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-gl2-vs-xl1s#post-65268 Wed, 02 Feb 2011 07:33:03 +0000 gdaley76 65268@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I would agree with EarlC. I love my GL2 and prefer the ease of use as well and the portability. The downside for me is it is not 16:9 and that would make it perfect. With the cost of HD TV's being so low, my clients prefer to be shot with what fits their screens. EarlC on "Canon GL2 vs XL1S" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-gl2-vs-xl1s#post-65253 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:41:50 +0000 EarlC 65253@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ The technology, circuitry, engineering and design of the GL2 actually makes it superior to the XL1 or XL1s with the ONLY serious exception being the ability to use interchangeable lenses with the XL series. Had I known then what I know now I would have saved myself megabucks and purchased THREE GL2 units instead of one GL2 and two XL1 units because I never really NEEDED to change lenses and I never saw my way clear to purchase the very expensive alternative lens choices to do so. My GL2 is my main unit of this setup, and the XL1 units are second cam and backup. I do have to say Canon lenses are vastly superior to much of the other comparably priced SD units out there, and would even hold up well (lens quality wise) to many of the high definition choices available in a similar price range. Realizing, of course, that I'm talking about apples and oranges there. gordyh1 on "Canon GL2 vs XL1S" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-gl2-vs-xl1s#post-65250 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:10:01 +0000 gordyh1 65250@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi everyone, i am looking to buy my first prosumer/ professional camcorder and these 2 camcorders have come up a lot. I will mainly be using it for school work. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which one i should get? Thanks composite1 on "Can I record to hard drive from Canon XL H1 HDV or XH-A1 HDV?" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-i-record-to-hard-drive-from-canon-xl-h1-hdv-or-xh-a1-hdv#post-53834 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:31:48 +0000 composite1 53834@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Your 'tapeless' options with the Canon pro cams are; record direct to laptop via firewire with Adobe On-Location or an old copy of Serious Magic's DV Rack (HD version) which is the same product. On-Location comes with the Premiere Bundle, but there is a Mac based program that does the same thing yet at the moment the name eludes me. Outside of software, portable harddrive and direct to flash media recorders are your best bet. Focus Enhancements make some good options for both types of recorders. They connect to your camera's firewire port and you can record to both tape (for archiving) and to CF cards or Harddrive at the same time. They generally use quicktime .mov files in addition to other media files so the clips will go straight into your NLE with just an offload session. The main thing is to check and make sure they or any other brand you choose is compatible with both your camera and your NLE software. Utopia on "Can I record to hard drive from Canon XL H1 HDV or XH-A1 HDV?" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-i-record-to-hard-drive-from-canon-xl-h1-hdv-or-xh-a1-hdv#post-53829 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:33:45 +0000 Utopia 53829@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I am looking to upgrade from a sony pro-sumer mini dv to a professional model Canon BUT as technology seems to be moving away from tape, I was hoping to find a model that would record to hard drive. Canon does not seem to offer the pro models with a hard drive, only mini hd tape. What would be the best route for me to go to get high quality images with ease of inputting for editing? Also, I often get requests to videotape events. As these situations do not call for editing, simply putting the recording on a format that the consumer can view at home (dvd), I want to minimize my post production time. With the mini dv I currently use, I have to import all of the footage into the computer, put it together in final cut, and export to dvd. All time consuming. Can anyone recommend a way around this while still getting good quality? I have even considered the cameras that record straight to dvd, but they all seem to be low end consumer models and I was not sure how good a quality the end product would be. Suggestions? As the rest of my work is specialty pieces that require considerable editing, I was hoping to find a camera that would allow me to do both. It is cost prohibitive to have to buy a separate camera for each application, not to mention a lot of gear to haul around. Don on "HD consumer vs Standard Prosumer Camera" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-consumer-vs-standard-prosumer-camera#post-41407 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:42:10 +0000 Don 41407@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Â I think the confusion comes from the nightshot mode. the sr11 and sr12 are the same except for the harddrives. speaking of nightshot modes.... a not so well documented trick with the sonys is to set the camera to nightshot mode and then add a digital filter from the menus to change the ugly green to b+w or Sepia.Â Â birdcat on "HD consumer vs Standard Prosumer Camera" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-consumer-vs-standard-prosumer-camera#post-41405 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:01:44 +0000 birdcat 41405@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ The only difference between the SR11 and SR12 is the SR11 has a 60GB hard drive as opposed to the SR12 which has a 120GB hard drive - Otherwise they are identical. bizzy on "HD consumer vs Standard Prosumer Camera" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-consumer-vs-standard-prosumer-camera#post-41399 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:39:25 +0000 bizzy 41399@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Is there any notable difference between SR 11 and SR 12 when it comes to light? I noticed SR11 has 0 lux while the latter has 5 lux. birdcat on "HD consumer vs Standard Prosumer Camera" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-consumer-vs-standard-prosumer-camera#post-39669 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:20:44 +0000 birdcat 39669@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote> The SR12 has a minimum illumination of 5 lux. My GL2 that i used to have was 6 lux, and it wasn't too bad.</blockquote> Plus you also have Night Shot (IR) if you don't mind the weird look....