http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: price - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:53:16 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-should-i-charge-1#post-74795 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:56:30 +0000 Larry Williams 74795@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> i have recently came into a simular problem not an over all pricing but pricing for greenscreen editing </p> <p>I noticed its starting to hit my pockets but its not doing that when i do shoots in natual locations it when i do a green screen, between the rendering and editing green screen footage it makes the edit process brutal. i charged 400 for a 5 minute music video but i was editing green screen fotage on both of my macs for about a total of 18 hours in doing that pushed back a couple of my other projects i was working on baically what im asking is does anyone have advice about the editing of greenscreen and should i charge a put up and tear down fee </p> <p>i have a big arsonel of equipment also that is all paid off becasue of military duties </p> <p>equipment i have</p> <p>canon T2I mulitple lenses</p> <p>Canon xha1</p> <p>steadicam with vest and spring arm </p> <p>8-12 foot crane</p> <p>tripods</p> <p>monopod</p> <p>tripod dollies </p> <p>green screen set up </p> <p>lighting </p> <p>microphones </p> <p>reflectors </p> <p>a 20 inch imac with fcp7 and 13 inch macbookpro with fcp7and pc with sony vegas and sony music studio</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-should-i-charge-1#post-74787 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:22:09 +0000 cfxcorp 74787@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You have to ask yourself, too...Do you want to do this work at these rates?&nbsp; Word gets out and you will probably get referrals that you may or may not want to commit to.&nbsp; Can you sub the work out (supervise it) and then mark it up X% ?</p> <p>I think your price is reasonable for the time you estimated.&nbsp; This project will add to your portfolio so you can show the next potential client what they will get for their money and your time.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-should-i-charge-1#post-74786 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:59:39 +0000 Kolyssa 74786@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have so much equipment because it's all I ask for on christmas lists, birthday lists, etc. and all the money I make from video production goes right back to buy more equipment :) You could say video is my life... because it is at the moment. </p> <p>Oaken Beeson, where are you located? That might make a difference. I feel like if I charge that much people might not take me seriously. But then again I've never tried. Also I'm only 21. I'm located in Milwaukee WI. </p> <p>I decided to charge $2500 for the entire project.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-should-i-charge-1#post-74673 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:55:31 +0000 Cinebasics 74673@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'm kinda impressed with the amount of gear you have for a beginner, so to speak. That's more than what most people use unless you're borrowing or renting all that. All I can tell you is what I charge, which is the best way to come up with prices. Try and find people who do w the kind of work you do and see what they charge. I'm at 125 hour for shooting and 85 an hour for editing. So far no one complains ;)</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-should-i-charge-1#post-74648 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:16:54 +0000 Kolyssa 74648@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>@Mike, That's a brilliant website! Thanks for the link! I've always been slightly opposed to hourly rates only because I was living in a college dorm and my hours would often be interrupted by roommates or other things. But now that I have my own office space I think you're right, I should consider that! I think $50/hour sounds reasonable... here's my equipment list:</p> <p>Panasonic GH1 with multiple lenses</p> <p>Canon 550D with multiple lenses</p> <p>Tripods, monopods, etc.</p> <p>Boom mic, lapel mic, hand-held mic + Zoom H4n Recorder</p> <p>LED lighting</p> <p>Adobe CS5.5 on my 27" iMac (I also have FCPX, but I prefer Adobe...).</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-should-i-charge-1#post-74645 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:51:41 +0000 Mike Wilhelm 74645@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Have you considered coming up with an hourly rate as opposed to a per-minute finished rate? Check out this rate calculator: <a href="http://freelanceswitch.com/rates/">http://freelanceswitch.com/rates/</a></p> <p>I'd say $50-$100 /hour would be a reasonable rate, depending of course on what equipment you're using.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/what-should-i-charge-1#post-74644 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:50:54 +0000 Kolyssa 74644@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello! I found this forum on Google and I've seen lots of experienced people giving their advice here, so I thought I would try it out!</p> <p>I usually charge $100/min of edited footage when I make promo or recap videos. (So a 5 min video = $500). That's perfect for my target audience and the kind of videos I make. However, I was recently approached with a project that I am unsure how to price. Here are the details:</p> <p>8 to 10 videos at 15-20 minutes each. The content is educational lecture. We'll probably spend a day (8 hours) filming all the videos, then my guess is that it will take about 60 hours of editing to get everything put together within the next 3 months (I'm a college student with classes so yes, it will take that long). With my *usual* pricing formula, the quote could be like $15,000!!! And that's way out of my client's budget. I understand that the editing for these videos will actually be minimal compared to my usual work :::::: <a href="https://vimeo.com/17085389" rel="nofollow">https://vimeo.com/17085389</a> ::::: so it will cost less. But I also don't want to be taken advantage of.</p> <p>If you need to know anything else, please let me know! Other than that any advice is very appreciated :)</p> <p>-Kolyssa</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing-a-project#post-71912 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:01:16 +0000 Krissy 71912@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thank you everyone!</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing-a-project#post-71911 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:58:54 +0000 Kenkyusha 71911@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;Not only did you offer him a deal, but the video example could be (way) more tightly edited and have better sound quality... if that seems like his 'ideal' ad spot,&nbsp;AND he&nbsp;isn't willing to discuss numbers, maybe it's not going to be a good relationship to persue.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing-a-project#post-71891 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:45:00 +0000 Don 71891@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You bid low enough that he thinks you will work for nothing... you offered him a deal, if he doesn't want, move along..the hardest clients to please are the ones that think you are worthless.</p> <p>;0)</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing-a-project#post-71885 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:15:48 +0000 MediaFish 71885@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Stick to your guns - you offered him a deal.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing-a-project#post-71882 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 03:31:33 +0000 Charles Schultz 71882@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>There is a company in St. Louis that charges a minimum of $2500 for a commercial so your rates are very reasonable.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing-a-project#post-71872 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:42:16 +0000 Cville 71872@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I think you offered him a bargain.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing-a-project#post-71866 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:28:45 +0000 Krissy 71866@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello, I'm a graphic designer but have done some small video projects in the past. I was approached by a potential client wanting 130 1 minute commercials for his custom pen website. I attached the following proposal, thinking my rates are fair and he's telling me to quote him lower (even though he won't get other quotes nor tell me a budget he has in mind!) Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you!!</p> <p>----</p> <p>$225 per 1 minute commercial (10% discount based on 150+ commercials, anything under 150 is $250)</p> <p>(includes script, filming, producing, directing, equipment, editing, rendering)</p> <p>Minus $20 per commercial if script is provided.</p> <p>I viewed a few videos from discountmugs.com and I could guarantee a higher production value than their commercials.</p> <p>If the price fits into your budget, the next step would be to hire an actor/actress. Unless you have someone in mind you would like to be the spokesperson, I highly recommend that I hire a professional. I'm hoping to find one for $10 per commercial (based on 150 commercials is $1500 and I'm estimating 30 hours of filming required for this project.)</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fFJb_FnCF0&amp;feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?&#038;lt;wbr&#038;gt;&#038;lt;/wbr&#038;gt;v=8fFJb_FnCF0&amp;feature=player_&#038;lt;wbr&#038;gt;&#038;lt;/wbr&#038;gt;embedded</a></p> <p>Sample of what he showed me he wants for 130 of his products.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/outdoor-video-question#post-56316 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:45:46 +0000 EarlC 56316@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>THESE are all listed as featured programming on the <a href="http://www.expertsatellite.com/dish-tv/outdoor-channel.html">DISH NETWORK's</a> Outdoor Channel.</p> <p>The Jackie Bushman Show<br />Turkey Call Television<br />Benelli's American Birdhunter<br />Pheasants Forever<br />Waterfowler TV<br />Rocky Geared Up<br />American Gun Dog<br />In-Fisherman PWT<br />Spanish Fly<br />The Catch: Costa Rica<br />Fly Fishing The World<br />Cabela's Outfitter Journal<br />Gore-Tex Outdoor Adventures</p> <p>Also, check out <a href="http://www.outdoorchannel.com/">The Outdoor Channel</a> website for more information, possible ideas and leads.</p> <p>AND, there's also web shows on hunting, see <a href="http://www.versus.com/hunting/?gclid=CKiD6tG0sqACFQQTawod_CH2Sw">Versus.com</a> for more info.</p> <p>Another "thought" I had is that the individual state and federal departments of wildlife, parks, fisheries, etc. might be GREAT resources for leads and ideas.</p> <p>A curious article in The Washington Times newspaper says "hunting/fishing TV shows are boring..." but there are thousands of people like my brother-in-law who might be comatose in their LazyBoy recliners, spit can at the side, but they seem to be locked and loaded on that programming for hours a day.</p> <p>Good luck with the above research possibilities.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/outdoor-video-question#post-56312 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:38:32 +0000 rakklub 56312@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yes I am very interested.  My house main channel is Outdoor, Sportsman channels.  My favorite is The Crush and Gettin Close.  It took me 3 years to get all the equipment that I need and learn.  I have filmed and created hunting video's.  Now I would like to do more than just a hobby.  I have some people asking me to film some of there hunts, but I am not sure what to do.  So if you are able to get in contact with someone who could help that would be great</p> <p> </p> <p>I did check out the huntingfootage.com site but have not found any answers yet, but I am going to continue to search</p> <p> </p> <p>Thank you for your help</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/outdoor-video-question#post-56214 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:12:58 +0000 EarlC 56214@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I've gotten totally away from the outdoors and hunting scene since abandoning my East Texas roots and annual deer, dove, squirrel, rabbit, etc. hunts (with bow, gun and occasionally camera). The rest of the clan, however, remains immersed in that life - especially my brother-in-law.</p> <p>Steve, when he's not hunting, working or taking care of other things, is parked in front of his satellite set and watching a hunting channel that quite frequently repeats its content throughout the week, if not daily - 24/7. I tried to call him to find out the channel ID but he must be "out hunting." It might be same already referred here.</p> <p>My point about the repeat programming is that this channel could be very receptive to new, fresh, quality and consistent content.</p> <p>If not, and I find out, I will share. Just thought you'd be interested to know that this, for the knowledgeable and initiated camera person(s), could be a lucrative production field.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/outdoor-video-question#post-56209 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:34:46 +0000 rakklub 56209@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks I will check that out</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/outdoor-video-question#post-56189 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:52:09 +0000 anindya49 56189@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Have a look at the following site:</p> <p><a href="http://www.huntingfootage.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.huntingfootage.com/</a></p> <p>It seems to cater specifically to the kind of projects you have in mind.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/outdoor-video-question#post-56182 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:43:51 +0000 rakklub 56182@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Does anyone here do hunting video's?  I am only interested in filming outdoors/hunting (no weddings).  I have a question on how to promote this kind of business.  Myself, My dad, and my husband got the equipment we need and I have produced 3 DVD's so far and have gotten a lot of good compliments.  Right now we were asked to go to maine with an outfitter to produce a promotional video about guided bear hunts.  My question is:  How or where can I get information on writing up a good contract?  Does anyone have any experience in this field that would be willing to give me some advice?  Like I said I am just starting to do this as a business opportunity instead of a hobby, and it seems to be something that is demanded in my area.  Also, any suggestions on how much to charge?  Do you charge by the hour or day?  Any help would be appreciated.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing#post-47414 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:43:54 +0000 composite1 47414@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Brian,</p> <p>As always, Earl lays it out there like it is. Here's a link to the video posted by Video Chick on her blog that nails this topic on the head.</p> <p><a href="http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/mcurtis/story/funny_video_discussion_vendor_client_relationships/">http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/mcurtis/story/funny_video_discussion_vendor_client_relationships/</a></p> <p> I've heard every excuse in the video and more. Like Earl said, 'get it all in writing' and be advised: everything you discuss in e-mails, text's and IM's are considered admissible documents in court. So when discussing negotiation points, pricing and intended services to be rendered, stay on point. Keep everything accurate so that what you've discussed with the client is in compliance with what is in the written agreement. 'Pay as you go' is best, but you may not always be able to get those terms particularly if you are not the originator of the contract. No matter what terms you agree upon, stick to them to the letter and document it. If the client comes up 'light' and you end up in court, having documented your compliance with the contract will be your strongest defense.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing#post-47393 Sun, 31 May 2009 16:12:37 +0000 brianwebb 47393@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Thanks for the feedback.</p> <p>Sounds like I could be in for an interesting side job full of "devils in the details" issues.</p> <p>I appreciate your thoughts / time.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing#post-47374 Sat, 30 May 2009 19:51:52 +0000 EarlC 47374@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I shoot half-day = $150 per hour; full day = $100 per hour, both for one location, single set-up, for 8-hours total including set-up and break-down.</p> <p>I edit according to a supplied EDL, or autonomously and provide a VERY rough cuts edit for preview so I know we're all on the same page, for $100 per hour, or sometimes based on a "finished minute" approach at $250-to-$350. That depends on a LOT of whereas and wherefor clauses or lack thereof in the production agreement, the complexity, etc. Client then comments for changes, etc. and I finish accordingly.</p> <p>ANY client, commercial or otherwise, wanting to "sit in" on the editing process needs to be willing to pay $500 or more per hour, depending on the amount of "input" the client wants to have in the process. There are numerous whereas and wherefor clauses in THAT agreement especially. It will NEVER be cheaper, or faster, or even necessarily BETTER if the client goes this route with me.</p> <p>Most recently I shot a series of "talking heads" for web production and advertising purposes. The shoot was originally supposed to last four hours or less; the talking heads were supposed to each have up to 30 minutes to do their "takes" of one or two "1-minute" presentations and maybe one of "5-minutes" duration. All that went out the door because MOST of them were simply NOT prepared although they had plenty of lead time, were supposed to be the leaders in their field of experience, and were supposedly accomplished workshop/seminar presenters and capable extemporaneous speakers. NOPE.</p> <p>Because such things occur more often than not, and most commercial clients ALWAYS  underestimate theirs or our expectations, I usually always include a clause that points out EXACTLY what will be done if all goes the way they said it would. Thus a "simple" shoot that would have included two set-ups, and six speakers would up taking multiple set-ups, last minute changes, thoughts and ideas, and too many takes each that progressively went from poor, to bad to worse.</p> <p>In almost every instant I had to work from several takes to get one that might work for them, thus increasing the amount of editing time involved. It went from the anticipated (by THEM) "clean-up" edits, intro title, doughnut for opening/closing and one copy each on DVD, high resolution web ready and medium web ready, and THEY were going to do the uploading. NOPE.</p> <p>NOTE: It will ALWAYS be MORE work than explained, understood, described or anticipated. It will ALWAYS take MORE time, both for shooting, and for editing. The client(s) will ALWAYS try to get a few extra "little things" tossed in for no additional cost - going from concession to concession. The old "given 'em an inch and they'll take a mile" cliche.</p> <p>Pad your bids, and charge accordingly, based on contingencies rather than stated actuals. Get it in writing with signatures by the decision makers, not their "hired help" who most often are full of self-importance and self-professed experts, whatever.</p> <p>That gig should have cost the company ONLY $1,000 for four hours shooting, or less, and two hours cleanup editing, delivery of the three qualities of perhaps nine separate clips. With THEM doing the uploading and repurposing.</p> <p>Instead, and thanks to contingencies written into the production agreement, signed by their "decision makers" (yes, multiple signatures, with ONE person designated to "sign off" on completion), they were billed for more than $3K.</p> <p>That brings up another thing: get a 30 percent to 50 percent deposit or retainer upon signing of the agreement; get a "progress payment" payable at the time you (if you do this) present the VERY ROUGH CUTS preview; final payment upon their receipt of the product.</p> <p>Keep in mind that it doesn't matter WHO you do business with, like Mr. Toupee, er, uh, Mr. Trump says, "nothing personal, just business" NEVER, EVER deliver the finished product without a specified and binding payment agreement, or preferably receiving the final amount UPON DELIVERY. Once they have the final product in hand, your negotiation powers are zero - nothing you can really hold over their heads.</p> <p>If my clients have a problem with how I expect to get paid and when, knowing my reputation for solid business and quality, hearing from many positive referrals, or having met with me a number of times and already gaining a number of concessions from me I prefer to NOT give, then I know from experience to expect "problems" when it comes to getting my money. So I am always up front in doing business with anybody, telling them I am not a large production company capable of extending payment plans, net 30s or subsidizing them. So, if they want good (often GREAT), relatively fast (often VERY FAST) and cheap (I prefer to call my productions "affordable"), then I in turn expect to be paid upon delivery of the product, and not a minute later.</p> <p>The client I used as an example? I have done everything promised in the agreement, on time or early, and their product is sitting on my shelf waiting for delivery. They have been notified when it would be ready and were notified when it was ready several days early. They're dragging their feet in getting the balance to me, so I've reminded them of their agreement to pay upon delivery, and to notify me when their check is "in hand" not when it is "in the mail."</p> <p>Much longer, and they will also have to wait until the check clears mine and their accounts before final delivery of ANY further video product.</p> <p>It's business, right?</p> <p>Oh, and I am now doing the uploading, but that is on hold as well until they "Show me the money! All of it!"</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pricing#post-47368 Sat, 30 May 2009 17:01:46 +0000 brianwebb 47368@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I'm bidding on a project and would like feedback on pricing.  It's a half day shoot (4-5 hrs)</p> <p>Then edit 3 or 4, 2 - 3 min clips, then upload them to youtube with graphics for names etc.</p> <p>Between logging and editing I'm guessing it will take me another half day (4-5 hours) for a </p> <p>total of 10 hours.  If there are issues might go up to 12 hrs.</p> <p>I'm shooting on JVC 100 camera and editing on final cut pro.  I have plenty of experience in the </p> <p>TV news biz but don't do many freelance / corporate gigs.  Any thoughts? Thanks</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ebay-used-camera-prices#post-45465 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:59:17 +0000 Cville 45465@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I also ended up at B&amp;H for my Sony HVR-HD1000u.  They have always been the standard that I compare prices against.</p> <p>I think that there are some items that are a good value on ebay but like anything else, you have to do your research.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ebay-used-camera-prices#post-45463 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:33:48 +0000 TDedmonSBP 45463@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>This is something I notcied as well a few months ago when I was looking at the Gy-HD110u, The prices were reasonable because a lot of them were being sold by people who knew how to use them, and sometimes came with some decent accessories, but in the end, for my price range I ended up going with B&amp;H because of their reputation and their prices being the best I found. </p> <p>I have also become disinterested in eBay since most of the listing tell you more about the seller than the actual item being sold.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ebay-used-camera-prices#post-45458 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:28:03 +0000 Cville 45458@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I know that there has been some discussion about people trying to get good equipment with little investment.  So I thought I would throw this topic out there.</p> <p>When I was looking to buy a camera last year I started doing research on what camera would meet my needs for the least amount of money.  My budget was between 1500 and 1800 dollars.  </p> <p>I then started watching auctions on Ebay and I could not understand why used cameras were selling for prices near what I could buy them new.  I don't understand why people would not spend the 150 to 200 more and get brand new with warranty from a reputable dealer.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/an-hvx200a-on-zoommania-for-274900#post-44186 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:08:33 +0000 EarlC 44186@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I sent you an extensive e-mail reply to your e-mail to me, Lorenzo. Hope some of it helped out.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/an-hvx200a-on-zoommania-for-274900#post-44167 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:09:09 +0000 wakeislander 44167@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'd pass...looks like another scam check out this site...</p> <p><a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/399/RipOff0399076.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/399/RipOff0399076.htm</a></p> <p>I'm glad I waited because I almost got scammed by self.  Was looking for a Sony FX1000, and found 2 sites that were selling it for $1600 (this is a $3000 camcorder).  Well two weeks later I was ready to order, tried finding the sites, they're gone.  Did a google on them and found tons of scam and ripoff complaints all over the internet.</p> <p> Even if there is one and the price is too good to be true I'm staying away from now on.  Like he said, go w/ BHphoto, I've dealt with them twice this month (nothing video related) and their customer service is excellent!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/an-hvx200a-on-zoommania-for-274900#post-44166 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 06:47:00 +0000 robGRAUERT 44166@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> check resellerratings.com to see if that site is a scam. Sounds to me it is. That camera doesn't go for that price.</p> <p>  I suggest bhphotovideo.com. Some of the other regulars on this forum can direct you to other trusted distributors as well. </p>