http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: PC - Recent Posts en Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:47:41 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72807 Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:57:54 +0000 Shawn Lam 72807@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks @composite1.  I don't see any problems with using a gaming laptop for editing on Premiere Pro CS5.5, other than the potential to wear-out your laptop quicker and if your operating system drive is cluttered.  <strong>If you are editing on a laptop with a single hard drive then you will want to be using an external hard drive or RAID solution</strong> anyways and you can always just take your external storage solution over to your desktop to complete the project.</p> <p>Now let's be careful with the term "workstation class video card".  Adobe and NVIDIA certified four gaming class desktop graphics cards, in addition to several Quadro cards.  Most reviewers only review the Quadro cards and justify that the NVIDIA GeForce graphics cards are often "manufactured" by third parties.  I think the term "manufactured" is used loosely too as NVIDIA makes the GPU and the third party assembles but I'm not too concerned about a gaming video card not having the same durability.  Gamers push their video cards and systems to the limits for sustained periods of time and as long as you stick with a reputable third-party manufacturer, you should be fine.  But if your card does fail, the cost of the original and a replacement will still be less than the cost of buying a Quafro card.</p> <p>The funny thing about trying to find a "workstation" class laptop with a Quadro card is that it is very difficult.  There are very few available off the shelf and if you wanted one you would have to custom order it, wait longer, and pay double or more than you would with a gaming class system.</p> <p>And then there is the discussion on performance.  <strong>Adobe and NVIDIA would have you think that Quadro cards outperform GeForce cards, but the opposite is true.</strong>  </p> <p>Have a look as the results from the <a title="Premiere Pro Benchmark" href="http://www.ppbm5.com/DB-PPBM5-2.php">PPBM5</a> and you will see that of the top 100 systems, only six have Quadro cards and the top performing system with a Quadro card only made it to position #32.</p> <p>In my <a title="Vancouver Videographer" href="http://www.shawnlam.ca/">Vancouver Video Production Company</a>, I mainly use desktop computers with gaming class graphics cards (from the certified list) for editing but I do run Premiere Pro on a laptop for when I am on the road.  As I mentioned previously, it only has an NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M card, which is not on the list, but I unlocked it and it improves both quality and render time.  </p> <p>Here are some test results to show how important GPU is for encoding time:<br /><strong>1920x1080 60i AVCHD footage - 32 seconds (no effects)*</strong></p> <p>Export to 720 30P H.264 1 pass VBR<br /><strong>CPU only with max render quality:  2m47s<br />CPU only with no max render quality:  1m04s*<br />GPU with max render quality: 0m43s</strong></p> <p>*note1:  Adding effects would only exaggerate the time gap between GPU and CPU times.<br />*note2:  I don't recommend CPU with no max render quality but provided it for illustration purposes.  GPU acceleration automatically enables a higher quality encode and GPU with Max Render Quality ensures that video with effects that are not GPU accelerated still are rendered at Max Render Quality.  In this case there is not time difference between the two GPU options as there are no effects.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72783 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:30:17 +0000 composite1 72783@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Cristo,</p> <p>I concur with Shawn's advice. I would not recommend having a laptop for gaming and editing. The requirements for both are different. Used to be gaming GPU's were a great alternative for video editing. Now, Premiere has changed the game and it's all about 'workstation-class' video cards. To take advantage of the Mercury Playback Engine, you'll need an NVIDIA workstation rated card which as Shawn mentioned is listed on the Adobe Premiere Pro system requirements page.</p> <p>Editing requires many more computer resources and requires regular maintenance. You want to keep your maindrive clutter-free as possible to cut down on data log jams when editing. Games take up massive data resources especially if you're an online gamer. Also, gaming will wear your laptop out sooner than will editing. Besides, if something happens to your maindrive because of a gaming malfunction there's the potential of the laptop losing the capacity to edit. That would suck if you had a project in pocket and decided to take a break to play LOTR with your bro's online and some bug gassed your harddrive.</p> <p>Food for thought.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72779 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:47:05 +0000 Shawn Lam 72779@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The CPU is good but you definitely want a laptop with an NVIDIA video card.  The reason is that you can take advantage of GPU acceleration, that improves rendering speed AND render quality!</p> <p>My blog post explains that part:</p> <p><a title="Adobe Premiere CS5.5 review" href="http://www.shawnlam.ca/2011/adobe-cs5-5-max-render-quality-nvidia-gpu-acceleration/">Vancouver Video Production Blog:  Adobe CS5.5 Max Render Quality and GPU Acceleration.</a></p> <p>Now not just any NVIDIA card will automatically unlock the GPU acceleration but if your card is fast enough then it is very easy to unlock this functionality.</p> <p>There is a link in the comment section of this blog post discussing how to easily unlock the GPU acceleration.  BTW, In my laptop I have a 360M card.</p> <p><a title="Vancouver Videographer Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 Review" href="http://www.shawnlam.ca/2011/adobe-premiere-pro-cs5-5-review-by-shawn-lam/">Vancouver Videographer - Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 review</a></p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-gaming-and-video-editing#post-72454 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:29:36 +0000 Christo Kj 72454@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Is this<br /> laptop good enough for Premiere Pro CS 5.5?</p> <p>About the<br /> laptop:</p> <p> </p> <p>INTEL Core i7-2760QM firekjernet prosessor, 2.4GHz,<br /> 6MB SmartCache</p> <p>8GB DDR3 SO-DIMM 1333MHz (2x4GB)</p> <p>AMD Radeon HD<br /> 6990M 2GB GDDR5</p> <p>&lt;table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"&gt;<br /> &lt;tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;td width="100%"&gt;</p> <p>500GB<br /> SATA 7200RPM</p> <p>&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;/tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;/table&gt;</p> <p> </p> <p>&lt;table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"&gt;<br /> &lt;tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;<br /> &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;td width="100%"&gt;</p> <p>I know that Adobe is workin with nvidia but I don't<br /> have the money for nvidia 580M. So<br /> how is AMD 6990M  with Premier pro?</p> <p>&lt;/td&gt;<br /> &lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;/tbody&gt;<br /> &lt;/table&gt;</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/monitors-for-pc#post-72335 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:55:30 +0000 MediaFish 72335@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I recently went to a 42" Vizio 1080p LCD TV monitor using the HDMI input.  I picked it up for $329 at a local wholesale house.  They had the Razor's for $399 but the picture on the one I got seemed to be better.  Before this I was using a 32" Vizio 720p LCD TV monitor I bought when it first came out for over $600.00 - funny how the times change.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/monitors-for-pc#post-72237 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:09:54 +0000 birdcat 72237@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I agree with Earls choices, but you also may want to look at ASUS - They are OEM for many other brands and have a price edge over Sony &amp; Samsung.  I also have an Acer 22" but the ASUS 24" is now my main monitor.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/monitors-for-pc#post-72171 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:23:29 +0000 ophelia 72171@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Sweet!  Excellent - thanks Earl!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/monitors-for-pc#post-72161 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:13:04 +0000 EarlC 72161@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Sony, HP and JVC, as well as Samsung, have GREAT monitors. And ViewSonic usually has something that stands out. I "get by" with a pair of Acer 23' units, and would like to have two higher end work monitors and a HUGE plasma or LCD hanging on the wall behind and above for viewing the results, price not being a consideration. There's also LaCie ... I don't think, after a bit of comparison and study between each brand's high end monitors, I could go THAT wrong with any of them.</p> <p>The HP Compaq FS 7550 Carbon scored 96 out of 100 at Wize.com and Apple's 23" scored 95. NEC's LCD2070NX-BK LCD scored a 99 and Samsung's SyncMaster 214T Flat panel display TFT tallied a 98. BenQ has some high-ranked monitors as well.</p> <p>Being on the Mac, however, I'd want a pair of their 30-inch HD flat panels or Cinema Display 27" models, or I'd go with something in the NEC MultiSync arena myself.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/monitors-for-pc#post-72133 Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:25:13 +0000 ophelia 72133@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hopefully this is the correct location for this question: if money was not a factor in your decision, which brand of monitor, which size and how many would you choose for your PC / workstation?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/searching-forums-for-previous-post-thread#post-71160 Sun, 25 Sep 2011 12:30:17 +0000 ophelia 71160@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hello again - found what I was looking for, but it was on Vimeo, not videomaker - oops!  For anyone else who might like to know, here is the link: <a href="http://vimeo.com/10594492">http://vimeo.com/10594492</a> .</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/searching-forums-for-previous-post-thread#post-71110 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:57:48 +0000 ophelia 71110@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>My thanks also to you SargeHero.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/searching-forums-for-previous-post-thread#post-71066 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:16:10 +0000 SargeHero 71066@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Ophelia</p> <p>There was a forum thread a couple of years ago called <a href="http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/to-build-or-not-to-build">"To Build or not to Build"</a>. It talks about almost everything you need to know about building a PC. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/searching-forums-for-previous-post-thread#post-71064 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 04:18:14 +0000 birdcat 71064@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yes - I am still on VP 8 on my old box and will finally upgrade to the 64 bit version when I can.  I am just about done putting everything together and will install the OS this week.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/searching-forums-for-previous-post-thread#post-71055 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:21:40 +0000 ophelia 71055@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Birdcat - I was just trying to find that particular posting.  Your new machine sounds awesome.  Are you building for Vegas 11?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/searching-forums-for-previous-post-thread#post-71050 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:29:20 +0000 birdcat 71050@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Not my post but I am building a nice box as we speak (hope to be done by next week) - ASUS P7P68 Pro motherboard, Core i7-2600K, 16GB 1600 RAM (was gonna do 8 but for $50 extra I went with 16), twin 7200 rpm SATA 6G 3TB drives + one SATA 3G 2TB HD, Win 7 Pro, GEForce 430 video card (96 Cuda cores) w 1GB DDR3 RAM, lots of other goodies...</p> <p>My case is a Thermaltake with 4 external 5.25 bays, 6 internal 3.5 bays, one 2.5/3.5 SATA 3G hot swap dock, four fans (2 in case, 1 in 750W power supply, 1 on CPU).</p> <p>What can I help you with?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/searching-forums-for-previous-post-thread#post-71049 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:15 +0000 ophelia 71049@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hello - I am trying to find a post here in which a member gave the specs of their newly built PC - it sounded screaming fast.  What stood out was that they had put it all in an "Alienware" case that had been special ordered.  Any thoughts where this post might be?  Even searching with "Alienware" didn't get me to it.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/motherboard-ram-recommendations-size-not-brand#post-69581 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:32:27 +0000 Tony Segreto 69581@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have found Adobe Premiere doesn't utilize all my RAM that much.  I only max out on RAM when I am working with dynamic link with Premiere &amp; Encore or Premiere &amp; Photoshop.  Right now I have 6 sticks of 2GB DDR3.  I was always under the impression that maintaining an even distro of RAM over as many sticks as possible was best for video editing.   Although, now I'm not sure how much of an effect it has.</p> <p>-Tony</p> <p><a href="http://www.VigilanteHD.com">http://www.VigilanteHD.com</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/motherboard-ram-recommendations-size-not-brand#post-68686 Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:45 +0000 Rick Ashworth 68686@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Another brand new setup question:</p> <p> </p> <p>I have an HP computer with an AMD quad-core and 6GB DDR3 RAM (triple channel?)..</p> <p> </p> <p>The motherboard (Foxcomm AERO) has (4) four memory slots.</p> <p>Am I better off to do 4GB x 3, or 4G x 4?   In other words, do I gain in utility what I might lose in speed by going 4G x 4 (I have no idea if this is one of the MB's that does the 1-4/2-3 triple chennel wiith four RAM slots trick, VS. 4G x 3?</p> <p> </p> <p>Thanks for any assist!</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67737 Fri, 06 May 2011 11:40:25 +0000 jjmmargate 67737@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>RevBill: Here is another link:</p> <p><a href="http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6646260&amp;CatId=4965" rel="nofollow">http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6646260&amp;CatId=4965</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67736 Fri, 06 May 2011 11:33:27 +0000 jjmmargate 67736@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>RevBill: I have this laptop:</p> <p><a href="http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G73SW/" rel="nofollow">http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G73SW/</a></p> <p>17" screen, i7 processor, 8 gigs ddr3 ram, two 7200RPM hard drives, Blue-Ray DVD writer, ATI video card. I have it connected to (3) 24" Samsung LCD's. It will set you back about $1500 bucks. I'm not an Apple guy, but they make nice stuff, probably a bit more pricey than the PC equivalent. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67723 Fri, 06 May 2011 08:10:53 +0000 revbill 67723@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I really appreciate all your ideas and suggestions. Thanks everyone. I really am bound to a PC laptop. While a work station would be nice, I do my video editing both at church and at home. So I need mobility. I had not considered "alienware" so thanks PJ for that idea. Should I configure my laptop with 2 hard drives like 2 500GB or just one big one? I keep thinking, one HD for the OS and the editing software and the other HD for my video files. Make sense? AND should I be concerned about my OS? I have windows vista ultimate on my current Dell Laptop, Inspiron 9400 at church and a Windows xp pro OS at home on a Pentium 4 workstation. Keep your wisdom coming my way. I have a lot to learn. Thanks again everyone.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67708 Thu, 05 May 2011 12:58:14 +0000 composite1 67708@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Alienware does make good laptops for editing but the reasons I didn't recommend them are; heavy, pricey and they make it like pulling teeth to get Win Pro versions installed. They are in my opinion more for a professional setup to justify the money. As for Mac's, yeah they 'play well' with PC's now but PC's play well with them too. Not to mention with a copy of 'Macdrive' on your PC laptop you can work on mac-based files and send them back to a mac with no prob long as you're using similar programs. But unless you're planning on using Final Cut Express, it doesn't make much sense to get one if your church is PC based.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67702 Thu, 05 May 2011 09:13:23 +0000 PJ McConnell 67702@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yeah, if you are having any doubts about going down the mac road, you should definitely research it more. In the last few years Macs have become increasingly compatible with PCs. Macs now have Microsoft Office and the videos you make on your Mac will be able to play on PCs and vice versa. With Macs you can get really nice editing software for pretty cheap (iMovie or Final Cut Express). And thunderbolt is also another awesome option, be careful about buying it just FOR thunderbolt. How often would you actually use it since there aren't really any peripherals that can utilize. And always, with macs you will end up paying much more since they are only distributed by Apple and authorized Apple resellers.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67697 Thu, 05 May 2011 08:34:54 +0000 hdc77494 67697@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I agree with PJ, Alienware makes really fast machines.  I'm biased against Apple, but their new laptop has Thunderbolt built in, and is available now.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67687 Thu, 05 May 2011 05:19:45 +0000 PJ McConnell 67687@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Actually in this case, I would recommend <a href="http://www.alienware.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alienware.com</a></p> <p>This may sound a little odd to professional videomakers, but alienware (now owned by Dell), makes incredibly fast PCs at the price range you are looking for. I just built a laptop with these specs:</p> <p> </p> <p> PROCESSOR Intel® Coreâ?¢ i7 2820QM 2.3GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Mode, 8MB Cache)</p> <p>OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit</p> <p>MEMORY 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz (4DIMMS)</p> <p>VIDEO CARD 1.5GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M</p> <p>HARD DRIVE 640GB Raid 0 (2x 320GB 7,200RPM)</p> <p>LCD PANEL 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED</p> <p>WIRELESS CARD Wireless 802.11 g/n</p> <p>INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)</p> <p>For barely over $2,000 dollars. Of course you could customize your laptop to your own liking and keep the price below 2 grand, but you get the idea. Ã? If you aren't going to be editing HD footage frequently, that laptop will be overboard and you should just get one of the cheaper solutions mentioned above</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67675 Wed, 04 May 2011 21:28:19 +0000 EarlC 67675@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Just in case you're not familiar with the "fishy" name mentioned by hdc ... that's a Seagate (are they STILL in business ;-) model hard drive.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67669 Wed, 04 May 2011 17:59:09 +0000 hdc77494 67669@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> The new drives coming out utilizing USB3 or Thunderbolt can transport 10Gbps to a solid state drive, or 500Mbps to a regular hard drive. 7200 Barracudas are a good idea.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67666 Wed, 04 May 2011 17:10:37 +0000 XTR-91 67666@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>"7200 RPM... external"</em></p> <p>Make sure it's in firewire if its external.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67645 Tue, 03 May 2011 19:25:21 +0000 composite1 67645@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Rev. Bill,</p> <p>Sounds like you need a workstation instead of a laptop. Laptop editing is great for in the field or on-location quick and dirty edits to cut down on time in a traditional editing bay. Laptops are also good if you are doing presentations of your cuts to clients on the road. But if you're doing regular volume editing, a workstation (desktop) will be your better bet. \</p> <p>For that same $2k you're planning to spend on a laptop, you can get a really good desktop with two harddrives (one for your software, the other for video editing) a significant amount of RAM (8GB) and a good Quadcore or virtualcore (i3, i5 or i7) CPU in addition to a good video card that will support SD or HD video playback.</p> <p>You'll also need a good 17" or bigger monitor so keep that in mind as well. For editing with pre-built PC's my recommendations are; HP or Dell with models from $800 to $1200 price range. Now, if you're hard core set on a laptop, there are 'workstation-grade' laptops made by Toshiba, HP and Dell but they're heavier than regular laptops and they cost more ($1200 starting price) but they are more robust than your standard laptop and they have more RAM (4GB min) and higher capacity CPU's (Quad-core minimum) with much higher-end NVIDIA video cards capable of pushing HD video.</p> <p>Whatever you get, please don't get the 'Home' version of Win7. It's not designed for semi or professional video editing. Spend the money and get Win7 Professional 64-bit (don't waste the money on Ultimate. Bells and whistles you don't need.) Professional is much cleaner running and has the controls you'll need to keep your machine running without a lot of hassle.</p> <p>Far as connectors go, eSata, firewire (if you can get it), USB3 (if it's available and if you have any gear to support it.) USB 2 will come with whatever you get. Oh and please don't try to edit with USB2 (that is if you don't mind watching the 'glacier races' while your video shuffles along.)</p> <p>Check those brands out and do a good search on their 'build your own' pages to figure out what will work best for you and your budget.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-advice-pc-laptop-for-video-editing#post-67644 Tue, 03 May 2011 18:51:33 +0000 hdc77494 67644@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Revbill, if it has to be a laptop, look for one with USB3 connectors or the new Thunderbolt connector. One thing I've read is that some of the video editors are only using one core on Apple machines, but multicore processing on Intel. USB3 I believe is available now, and you can get the new Sandy Bridge processor on an Intel. Apple has Thunderbolt now, and Intel, but it hasn't shown up on Intel PCs yet.</p> <p>Thunderbolt has a slight speed advantage over USB3, but the big advantage is that you can daisy chain devices in line, including outboard graphics processors. If you can wait till summer, get an Intel SandyBridge laptop with Thunderbolt. The throughput is high enough to do video work. Another addition for later would be a solid state drive. Not a big one for storage,  but to speed up your video processing.</p> <p>Good luck</p>