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Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: Looking - Recent Posts http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: Looking - Recent Posts en Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:36:52 +0000 NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46760 Wed, 13 May 2009 13:48:02 +0000 NormanWillis 46760@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ >> Not sure I know exactly what you mean. Generally I will capture onto an external hard drive through my desktop and most likely bring that with me to use with the lap top...is that what you'd recommend? Again I really appreciate the help! What I mean is that I am just a beginning editor. I would think that unless you need to purchase today, I would wait until some guys like Comp and Crafters have had time to give you their input, as they know more than I do. But your proposed system looks good to me. I understand about the need to edit while traveling. Norman lastingmemories on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46757 Wed, 13 May 2009 11:17:33 +0000 lastingmemories 46757@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Not sure I know exactly what you mean. Generally I will capture onto an external hard drive through my desktop and most likely bring that with me to use with the lap top...is that what you'd recommend? Again I really appreciate the help! NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46756 Wed, 13 May 2009 11:15:54 +0000 NormanWillis 46756@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>Great Point on the one I just constructed I went with the 500 and 7200...tried to outline above but it doesnt look like it came through very good...2.53 ghz, 6 GB DDR3 System Memory, 1GB NVidia Graphics Card and an 18" monitor...a little more than the budgeted amount but at 1700 it's a good buy? It looks good to me, but unless you have to move on it today, I would also get some advice from some of the more senior editors. Ultimately it is your choice, and personal preference, but they will know much more than I do. Norman NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46755 Wed, 13 May 2009 11:13:08 +0000 NormanWillis 46755@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>Yeah I actually already have a number of external hard drives that I will be using for data storage..the only storage on the laptop will be current projects so to limit the load on the road... Wait. Are you planning on reading and writing to C:\, and you also have the operating system and NLE on C:\? Or are you putting all data on D:\ external (which is the recommended option)? Norman lastingmemories on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46754 Wed, 13 May 2009 11:11:39 +0000 lastingmemories 46754@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Great Point on the one I just constructed I went with the 500 and 7200...tried to outline above but it doesnt look like it came through very good...2.53 ghz, 6 GB DDR3 System Memory, 1GB NVidia Graphics Card and an 18" monitor...a little more than the budgeted amount but at 1700 it's a good buy? NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46753 Wed, 13 May 2009 11:07:38 +0000 NormanWillis 46753@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ OK. But if you are going to store data on an external drive, then why do you need 500GB internal? Why not take the 320GB internal, and get the speed? Norman lastingmemories on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46752 Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:29 +0000 lastingmemories 46752@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Yeah I actually already have a number of external hard drives that I will be using for data storage..the only storage on the laptop will be current projects so to limit the load on the road... NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46751 Wed, 13 May 2009 10:59:13 +0000 NormanWillis 46751@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>That does help...I guess it would help to know the budget which is around 1500. I agree on the 7200 but it would only allow me the 7200 at 320 GB vs the 500 GB at 5400... OK, it does help a lot to know your budget. Are you looking at an external hdd for data, or are you needing to do it all on one internal drive? I would strongly recommend getting an external drive for data, and as fast as you can. Even if you cannot afford it right now, you could always migrate that way. Data is huge. If you get a machine with a 1394 (Firewire) port (which is fairly standard), an external firewire drive for data will really speed things up for you. I hope that helps. Norman lastingmemories on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46750 Wed, 13 May 2009 10:46:23 +0000 lastingmemories 46750@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Does this look any better? Vista Premium 64 bit Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.53 Ghz <a href="_tabBar.moveToTab('tab0','m_c_2','2');">6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) - For 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 130M</a> <a href="_tabBar.moveToTab('tab0','m_c_4','4');">1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 130M - For DDR3 Memory</a> <a href="_tabBar.moveToTab('tab0','m_c_5','5');">18.4" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1920x1080p)</a> <a href="_tabBar.moveToTab('tab0','m_c_6','6');">Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer</a> lastingmemories on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46748 Wed, 13 May 2009 10:29:31 +0000 lastingmemories 46748@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ That does help...I guess it would help to know the budget which is around 1500. I agree on the 7200 but it would only allow me the 7200 at 320 GB vs the 500 GB at 5400... NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46747 Wed, 13 May 2009 10:07:24 +0000 NormanWillis 46747@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ The basic chassis looks good, but I would look for a 7200RPM drive. I would also purchase aftermarket memory, as HP laptop memory is notoriously slow. The main advantage of x64 bits is to add memory, so I do not know how much advantage x64 will give you over x32, but it should give some. Also consider adding 4GB ReadyBoost RAM (a fast flash card). And I do not know your budget, but Dell makes workstations that handle more than 4GB of RAM, which is where the real advantage of x64 is found. <a href="http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/workstation-precision-m6400?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&~oid=us~en~4~workstation-precision-m6400_anav2">http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/workstation-precision-m6400?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&~oid=us~en~4~workstation-precision-m6400_anav2</a>~~ I hope that helps. Norman lastingmemories on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46744 Wed, 13 May 2009 09:28:53 +0000 lastingmemories 46744@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ This thread has been extremely helpful. I also thought I would throw another angle at it. I have found that I have the need to do alot of editing on the road so I am looking for a laptop to edit using Vegas Pro 8.0. I was about to purchase an HP with the following specs but that I would get all your opinions first... Windows Vista 64 Bit Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T9550 4GB DDR2 System Memory 500 GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive 1 GB NVidia Ge Force GT 130M 16" HD Screen Thoughts????? NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46585 Fri, 08 May 2009 08:02:50 +0000 NormanWillis 46585@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ NP. Whatever/whenever is best for you. Talk with you then. Norman yourvideographer on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46574 Thu, 07 May 2009 23:02:54 +0000 yourvideographer 46574@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ That is Great to see Norman! Hey I am sorry I haven't been real active on the thread lately, but I have gotten busy this week and this next wweek my brother will be in town, so I will get back to the thread when I get some time. Have a Great Day! Chad NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8/page/2#post-46547 Thu, 07 May 2009 15:02:18 +0000 NormanWillis 46547@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Chad. If anyone still things Vegas is not a pro-grade NLE, it now supports Red One and 4K. This from the Videoguys' latest emailing: NEW! Support for Gigapixel-Size Pictures With Vegas Pro 9 software you can pan, scan, and crop extremely large images to create a movie sequence while maintaining HD resolution. Vegas Pro 9 software also supports video stills from professional-level camcorders and still cameras that take stitch multiple pictures together to form a large single image. NEW! Enhanced Native XDCAM and AVCHD Support The new Device Explorer feature enables users to quickly browse the contents of both XDCAM EX devices and AVCHD cameras, allowing users to selectively import files and use them natively, without conversion to an intermediate format. Vegas Pro 9 also allows users to directly capture XDCAM-compatible MXF files from supported SD/HDSDI sources. The new capture-compress function allows broadcast editors to convert their legacy SD or HD tape-based material, including Digital Betacam, HDCAM, and DVCPRO 100, into high-quality, IT-friendly MXF clips conforming to the Sony XDCAM MPEG2 standard. NEW! Open and Edit RED ONE Files on the Timeline Vegas Pro 9 software has advanced support for 4K workflows, including support for RED ONE files. I still think you made a good move by starting with Vegas 8.1 (64 bit), and then upgrading to Vegas Pro 9 once they come out with the first service pack (9.0a or 9.1a), which will provide much beefier support on the back end. I hope that helps. Norman NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46464 Tue, 05 May 2009 06:34:45 +0000 NormanWillis 46464@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Chad, This latest post of yours gives me a completely different picture of who you are, and what you are going for. Please correct me if I am wrong: your total budget is not 5K$: your computer/software/NLE budget is 5K$, and your camera budget is more than that? All of these cameras are 'next gen' for me. I have a distant dream of owning a P2 (HPX-300), but at the moment I do not have budget, and cannot justify the cost. At the moment I am just planning some lightly composited 'educational apologetics' type videos for our organization, which my little 3CCD HDR-FX1 palmcorder-and-teleprompter setup will probably handle just fine, but this is interesting stuff for me to learn about. Just to give you a better sense of who I am (and what experience I do not yet have), here is my A camera: <a href="http://www.videomaker.com/article/10594/">http://www.videomaker.com/article/10594/</a> And here is my B camera/tape-feed unit: <a href="http://www.videomaker.com/article/12070/">http://www.videomaker.com/article/12070/</a> From what little I see, the cameras you are looking at here look really, really good (I am thinking the HPX-301e is the same camera as the HPX-300). Personally I liked the reviews of the Panasonic HPX-300 the best; however I may be biased, as I have had my distant sights on a P2 camera for some time. At the moment my main challenge is just to get my head wrapped around Sony Vegas (and its 'Production Assistant), and then Boris Red (and then Adobe CS4, etceteras). Then after that I need to figure out my lighting configuration for my greenscreen, but that is another matter. Speaking completely out of ignorance, I liked the HPX-300 best, but Comp will surely know more. However, you may have something specific in mind. Norman yourvideographer on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46452 Mon, 04 May 2009 23:06:39 +0000 yourvideographer 46452@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <h2>Here are some more cameras I have been looking at: </h2> <h2>JVC GY-HM700 HD</h2> <a href="http://www.b-roll.net/today/2009/03/philip-bloom-and-the-jvc-gy-hm700-hd/">http://www.b-roll.net/today/2009/03/philip-bloom-and-the-jvc-gy-hm700-hd/</a> Panasonic AG-HPX300 <a href="http://philipbloom.co.uk/reviews/cvp-tv-review-of-panasonic-hpx-301e/">http://philipbloom.co.uk/reviews/cvp-tv-review-of-panasonic-hpx-301e/</a> <a href="http://www.b-roll.net/today/2009/02/hpx30/">http://www.b-roll.net/today/2009/02/hpx30/</a> I will have some others tomorrow NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46451 Mon, 04 May 2009 21:17:21 +0000 NormanWillis 46451@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Comp. I appreciate the information on the MBP on the other thread. I never did understand why 'they' ditched HD-DVD. Why take something affordable (that people would probably use) and replace it with something that is unaffordable, that no one is using? I just don't get it. I would have happily used HD-DVD, as it would have been perfect for what I am doing. I should let you know, though, that I may have a different 'client base' than most. Essentially I am making training videos and documentaries for our members' use, both for now and in the future. The plan is to make the videos available at cost through a print on demand house, and also to make a self-extracting .iso file available for purchase on the web. Basically we only plan to charge cost, and no profit (since our ethics rules say we are supposed to survive on donations only). Then we also want to upload the video to YouTube, Veoh, Vimeo, Metacafe and Mogulus in whatever formats they have (SD, HQ, and HD), and then to embed these videos on our website, so that Vimeo or YouTube (or someone else) carries the bandwidth. Eventually, I expect the resolution standards to go higher, and I'd really rather not have to re-record, unless I have to. What that means to me, in practical terms, is that if I both record, burn, upload and archive in both SD and HD now, then whatever format they ultimately come out with (HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, Flash media, or whatever), all I have to do is to figure out how to cut it over to the appropriate format. I wish my machine was 1080p, but 1080i is probably good enough; plus we already have it, and we are flat out of budget for new equipment. So my present plan is to burn, edit, upload, embed, distribute, and also archive in as high of resolution as possible. I understand that HDV tape is a decent archiving format, so I will probably make two or three copies of HDV tape, and then store them in different locations. It is an excellent point you make about Blu-Ray. I am not presently aware of any Print-On-Demand Blu-ray facility; and if people are not using that format (because of cost), then why invest in a burner? Why not just archive back to HDV tape, and then wait for whatever format eventually actually takes off? The Matrox will work for me on this machine, and for right now, because I have an HDV camera (although it is only 1080i, and not 1080p), and with the economy looking like it is, I will probably have it for a long, long time. So that is what I have, so I had better get used to it. But maybe some day I will get blessed with a 2K machine! And then I will also need a new computer....and a Mojo....hrmm.... So for right now I am just happy that I am finally getting time to dig into the Douglas Spotted Eagle training DVD, because it means I am getting closer to being able to actually get started. I have been looking forward to this for a very long time, and now that it is almost here it is scary. Norman composite1 on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46440 Mon, 04 May 2009 15:27:33 +0000 composite1 46440@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Norman, No 'contradiction' perceived. 'Future proofing' is hard to do, futile and expensive. Most of the folks that ask questions on these posts are newbies to intermediate types. Trying not to get caught between the manufacturer's and their 'predetermined' format changes is hard enough for pro's. I can tell you most of the people jumping on the 1080p train haven't mastered 720p or 1080i yet! Your average bride looking for wedding video or client looking for training/event video don't have the capacity to understand, can pay for or care about hi-res HD video. Not to mention unless you're up to speed on Blu-ray authoring, can deliver a digital 'print' on harddrive for projection or upload properly compressed HD video to online servers you're 'spinnin' your wheels.' Now if you're doing this for a living and have the client base you believe has or is making the transition to hi-res HD, then yeah run with it. Because, if you don't you can shoot your stuff in hi-res but you're going to have to down-res it to SD anyway. Also, storage and archiving of hi-res footage is a real issue. Storing on Blu-ray Disc and 'client drives' are the current options but for the person just getting started, those are expensive options outside of the 'trust fund' set. Case in point: You and I both did a collective 'drool' over HP's Z800. But unless you have the resources on hand to support such a rig and the clientele to purchase such high-end output, it doesn't make sense to get one. So no, I didn't perceive any contraditiction. Good advice/info comes from all angles. Speaking of which check the 'build or not....' thread for the answer I got about the Multi-bridge Pro. NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46436 Mon, 04 May 2009 12:32:14 +0000 NormanWillis 46436@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>I'm really happy with the JVC's. Norman said to 'avoid 720p', but I happen to like it. 720p is perfect for making films that go straight to DVD. Obviously, 1080p is a higher res image, but not that many people have migrated to Blu-Ray (I still say HDD was better) and the tech moving to Blu-Ray is moving slowly forward. That and as I've mentioned, Sony is notorious for abandoning a format. If the move to Blu-Ray as a standard takes much longer, watch out. Also, I like the choice of resolutions. 720p projects don't take up as much harddrive space as a 1080p one will. Then too, who are you making the project for? Unless your client is capable of broadcasting or otherwise distributing such high format projects (and can pay for their production) what are you going to do with it? JVC's latest rig give the option of doing 720p or 1080p (something Panasonic has offered since '07) so I'm giving it a serious look. Hi Comp. If you know 720p and you like it, then that's the bottom line as far as I am concerned. I'm not trying to contradict you in anything, I am just hoping to help Chad with some general advice. And you know way more about this stuff than I do. My only thought was that 1080p is a little bit more 'future proof'; at least until they raise the standards to 2K in 2015. Norman composite1 on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46427 Mon, 04 May 2009 08:44:22 +0000 composite1 46427@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ "I worked with the XL-1s and the GL1, I hated the picture quality of the Canons, the XL-1s was expensive and to me very flimsy." Chad, Hmm, I worked with some folks who hated the XL1s imagery (but they were comparing it to a $20k DVCPRO rig which was a different level of camera.) You're the first I ever heard say it was expensive and 'flimsy'. Yeah, I guess compared to the $70k Betacams and DigiBetas I used to work with it would seem flimsy. However, I field tested an XL1 during some military operations and that thing got wet, dirty, banged up and still kept rollin'. However, you have to shoot a military camera operator before they'll 'drop a rig' and they might not do it then! We still have the first XL1s I purchased back in '02 and that thing has been used from the freezing temps of a blizzard to the hellish heat of a steel mill. Now I might have felt the way you did if we hadn't outfitted it with a pro rig of a shoulder mount and monochrome viewfinder. We got all the lenses except for the 14x and even have an Night Vision setup for it. Despite it being 'old tech' it will be 'on active duty' until it falls apart. The inital body and 16x Stabilized lens purchase was less expensive than cameras of comparable configuration today. All those extras did add up. Had we went with a much higher-end camera we would have gotten only the body and maybe a lens for what we paid for all the add-ons. I'm really happy with the JVC's. Norman said to 'avoid 720p', but I happen to like it. 720p is perfect for making films that go straight to DVD. Obviously, 1080p is a higher res image, but not that many people have migrated to Blu-Ray (I still say HDD was better) and the tech moving to Blu-Ray is moving slowly forward. That and as I've mentioned, Sony is notorious for abandoning a format. If the move to Blu-Ray as a standard takes much longer, watch out. Also, I like the choice of resolutions. 720p projects don't take up as much harddrive space as a 1080p one will. Then too, who are you making the project for? Unless your client is capable of broadcasting or otherwise distributing such high format projects (and can pay for their production) what are you going to do with it? JVC's latest rig give the option of doing 720p or 1080p (something Panasonic has offered since '07) so I'm giving it a serious look. As far as getting shot at, been there, done that, here's your ballcap and t-shirt. Welcome to the club. When the aircraft your shooting from gets targeted for missile fire, give me a call and you'll get the 'secret handshake'. NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46424 Mon, 04 May 2009 08:28:02 +0000 NormanWillis 46424@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>I own a Sony PD-150 that I bought from B and H photo and Video in 2001. Hi Chad. I did not realize that you already had a good quality SD/DV camera. If you already own a competent DV camera, then may I please ask you to tell me again what are the exact qualities/specifications you are looking for? In other words, when you say "best camera", best for what? Are you looking for HDV, AVCHD, more SD/DV? What do you envision yourself doing? Do you envision wedding videography, mographics work, COPS/Reality TV, moto-cross, indie filmmaking: what? What do you believe is your budget? Also, have you checked out the camera reviews on this website? I hope this is helpful. Norman yourvideographer on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46415 Sun, 03 May 2009 23:14:26 +0000 yourvideographer 46415@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Well, to tell you guys where I am coming from about cameras, I have been a Sony guy for the longest time, but I am not necessarily tied down to them. I own a Sony PD-150 that I bought from B and H photo and Video in 2001. It was between the 150, the Canon XL-1s, and the Canon GL1. I worked with the XL-1s and the GL1, I hated the picture quality of the Canons, the XL-1s was expensive and to me very flimsy. The GL1 had I believe automatic focus or something like that and that was a major turnoff for me. I used my pd-150 from 2001 to 2004 and it was great. In fact, I was visiting my friend in Yuma, Arizona and I dropped my 150 at waist level on a cement street. It survived and it is built like a Brick! I then got a job as a News Photojournalist in June 2004 in Reno. I used a Sony Betacam SP Camera that I am guessing was probaly over 15 years old, because it kept on breaking down. I then went to a station in Phoenix in Jan tuary 2005 as a News Photojournalist and I shot on a Sony Betacam SX Camera until May 2008. So since May 2008 til August 2008, I used my PD-150 for Freelance News Stories I shot for all of the local stations in Phoenix, CNN, and the Weather Channel. I then moved to Denver in October tried to do a career change going into sales or hospitality. No luck, it didn't help the economy started the downfall in October. So after 6 months of looking, I realized I need to make an opportunity for myself. I knew I didn't want to go back into news, because the hours are 24/7 and holidays. Plus I got shot at 12 times at a police scene once, but thankfully they were a bad shot and I didn't get hit. I will finish this reply tomorrow, I am sorry I stopped in mid paragraph, but I need to go to bed. Have a Good Night! NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46403 Sun, 03 May 2009 09:04:22 +0000 NormanWillis 46403@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Comp. >>Also, it couldn't do progressive scan in favor of interlaced video. 1080i looks cool, but I am sick up and fed with editing interlaced video for DVD and the 'Net.\ It is a long story, but we got our camera gear back when 1080i was the thing. I have an HDR-FX1 for the main camera, with a JuicedLink CX-231 (or something) to clean up the audio inputs (because the FX1 is supposed to have a lot of hiss, unless one bypasses it). Then I plan to feed in with a Sony HDR-HC1 (so I don't have to take my teleprompter setup apart). What is the deal with 1080i? Why is it a hassle/pain? I bought the Cineform NeoScene codec converter, which is supposed to convert all footage to .avi. <h4 class="header15">Description:</h4> With Neo Scene you will convert your difficult-to-edit HDV or AVCHD camera footage to CineForm AVI files and then benefit from the same theatrical quality format and real-time editing performance as professionals. I would love to upgrade to 1080p, but I just don't have the money right now. What is the deal with 1080i, and do you suppose the Cineform codec will take care of the problem? Thank you, Norman NormanWillis on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46402 Sun, 03 May 2009 08:57:26 +0000 NormanWillis 46402@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>Norman I can't remember if it was this thread or the To Build or Not to Build thread, but yes I am a man of faith and I have been praying for this whole process. Thank you for your prayers on this. Thank you everybody for all or your replies and information! I will probably start a new thread on what is the best HD Camera to get for Vegas next week. I just want to take it one day at a time and just let it happen. Hi Chad. I am glad to hear that, and will keep you in prayer. As long as you keep listening, He will keep guiding. You can probably tell that Comp knows a lot more about this stuff than I do. I would give his recommendations a lot more weight than mine, but it can alsosometimes be good to get the perspective from another beginner, because I talk in beginner's terms. Sony Vegas is good in that it handles all formats. One of the things about Vegas is that they are an 'all in one', whereas the Adobe and Vegas packages have more 'speciality' tools. Sony also has specialty tools, but there is nothing you cannot begin with in Vegas; and as Comp says, the price is very reasonable. I am starting with Sony, but am also keeping my mind open to the idea of adding Adobe and then Avid as time goes on. One reason for picking Sony as a starting point was that I already had it (I bought it and our cameras for someone who was going to help, but who then flaked out on me), and also because it is supposed to be the easiest thing to initially learn. I will say that I am getting a ton of good information from the Class On Demand Vegas 4.0 Editing Workshop with Douglas Spotted Eagle. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Demand-Douglas-Spotted-Editing-Workshop/dp/B00009XFQM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1241368626&sr=8-1">http://www.amazon.com/Demand-Douglas-Spotted-Editing-Workshop/dp/B00009XFQM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1241368626&sr=8-1</a> It is expensive, but it helps get one up to speed very quickly. Training is invaluable, and I would think that if you would go through that, it will put you a cut above some who have never taken any kind of instruction, because he really digs in and hits some specifics. Highly recommended. Depending on the kind of work you are hoping to do, I would start with Sony Vegas, and then keep an open mind towards adding more tools as you go. Sound Forge is excellent for creating surround sound work. Acid Pro is excellent for creating your own musical pieces (although you can do that in Vegas as well...just more so in Acid). Cinescore will help you add Midi-type music to you productions, say if you do wedding videos. Just let me say here that Sony is optimized for AMD chips. I chose Intel chips, however, because Sony also works on Intel, and the other software that I eventually hope to migrate to (i.e., Premiere, Avid) is optimized for Intel. I read on another forum that Sony cameras and Sony Creative Software do not necessarily talk with each other. They are two separate companies underneath the Sony umbrella. I heard that Sony makes excellent cameras, but they do not necessarily work any better with Vegas than any other brand. (One of the things that Sony focuses on is interoperability with all formats.) You can get lots of different camera types. DV=SD =standard definition. I would avoid that. HD is different than HDV is different then AVCHD (flash memory). I do not know your budget, but if you can afford it, try to get a professional grade model with XLR (pro microphone) hookups. The overall quality will be higher, and you can do more with it as time goes on. Avoid 720i or 720p (lower resolution). Avoid 1080i (interlaced). Try to find 1080p. There is a debate about tape versus flash. If you go tape, you have to feed the tape in, which means you can get to work on it slower. Also, the tapes cost. However, then you have the tape there as a backup. If you go AVCHD (flash and hard disk drive) then you can get started almost right away (just hook your camcorder to your machine). However, then you have to burn the data to tape, or else keep it all on hard drives (which is way more expensive than tape: and hard drives [hdd's] fail). So that is a toss-up, but I am not unhappy with tape at all. Just use a good quality HDV tape (which is thicker than SD/DV tape). I get mine from <a href="http://www.tapeonline.com">http://www.tapeonline.com</a>. They seem to have the best prices. Shipping is not ultra-swift, so just be sure to order a little ahead. Just so I've told you, if I had to purchase a smaller, less expensive camcorder right now, I would probably purchase a Canon Vixia HG21 in AVCHD, but only because I already have redundant hdd (hard drive) backup, and can also burn backups to tape via my other camcorder. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001DTXK8G/ref=nosim/tirebouchon-20">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001DTXK8G/ref=nosim/tirebouchon-20</a> I read in a magazine (Videography) that AVCHD is a slightly cleaner picture than HDV; so since the quality is better, and quality is the main thing, I would find some way to jump through the hoops of backing it up. You can also purchase anti-static hdd cases, and then get a 'toaster' hdd dock. <a href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3516746&CatId=2785">http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3516746&CatId=2785</a> However, if you are on a budget then you might want to research an HDV camcorder, because then you have the initial tape footage for backup (in case something goes down...which it eventually will), and also you can also burn the final project to tape. As CraftersOfLight said, you will get about a bazillion opinions on what is best, so of course, the main thing is just to keep on praying, and let Him guide you day by day. Norman composite1 on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46391 Sat, 02 May 2009 11:06:05 +0000 composite1 46391@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ "which JVC and Canon Models do you have, why did you choose them versus other cameras, and when did you purchase them?" Chad, We currently use the JVC GYHD200UB and the Canon XL1s model cameras. I've been sold on the XL series since Canon loaned my old Unit a couple to take out into the field back in '98. They were light got great images, could do most of the things our hardcore pro models did and take a butt whuppin' in the process. I personall think the XL1s is Canon's hands down best rig despite it not being able to do progressive scan and HD. Unlike the XL1 and those that followed after it, the XL1s could be tricked out with secondary components also sold by canon to take it from the prosumer to hardcore pro level. All the cameras since can't do that which sucks. We use the 200UB because in '07 I was at a conference and shot my mouth off about JVC lending me their latest rig to make my next movie. They said "Okay." They sponsored all the camera gear and part of the load of stuff was a fresh out of the box GYHD250. It was a pro camera from front to back and a dream to work with. Though it was a 'Low res' HD camera at 720p the imagery in both HD and DV were 'Effen' phenomenal and it could also take a whuppin' and still keep going. When came time to get one we didn't need the extra SDI connections so the 200 was the next best thing. Same camera without the SDI connections. We've been shooting with it for the last year and it is the real McCoy. I checked out other cameras like the XH1, AVHGX and the Z1U. I dug the XH1 but it was too pricey, front heavy, had that goofy 24f thing (that many nle's didn't support at the time) and had issues with configuration like I mentioned earlier. I wasn't impressed with the AVHGX because it felt more like a toy than a straight up pro camera. I did like the combo of tape or cards but those P2 cards were (and are) too expensive to be bothered with despite how much people rave about them. Imagery was okay and I liked the many formats it could shoot in, but the controls were annoying and the hype about it was too. I would have rolled with the Z1U but I know Sony from waaaaay back. The make good gear, but their tech support is hit or miss and they have a nasty habit of completely abandoning a format whether it works or not. Also, it couldn't do progressive scan in favor of interlaced video. 1080i looks cool, but I am sick up and fed with editing interlaced video for DVD and the 'Net. Hope that answered your questions. yourvideographer on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46390 Sat, 02 May 2009 09:47:41 +0000 yourvideographer 46390@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Composite 1, which JVC and Canon Models do you have, why did you choose them versus other cameras, and when did you purchase them? composite1 on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46378 Fri, 01 May 2009 17:08:29 +0000 composite1 46378@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ "Thank you everybody for all or your replies and information! I will probably start a new thread on what is the best HD Camera to get for Vegas next week. I just want to take it one day at a time and just let it happen." Chad, You're welcome for whatever small contribution I may have made to your search for answers. Oh and the guy who suggested Vegas over Avid is correct on some points and not on others. Just to name a few if you want to load your software and get rolling with professional edits for less than 2k on software, the Sony pro suite is the 500lb gorilla in the room (Vegas Pro, Sound Forge, Acid, Cinescore.) Provided you have a computer constructed specifically for video editing that makes Vegas a stronger choice. With the Vegas suite you can do some pretty strong broadcast quality post-work hands down. For more serious finishing work you will need some third-party programs like AFX, Boris and Zaxwerks to do solid motion graphics work. You can 'getto' your way through mographic work with many of the tools in Vegas using keyframes and bezier' curves however, but it's way more work and it takes buttloads of skill just to make something that is passable. Lot's of pro's use Vegas (me being one) so it's definitely the real deal. Avid however, can go places and do things Vegas is yet to go. Not only can you do small scale productions with Avid, you can go full on decamillion budget extravaganza with it (despite what the FCP weenies say, most movies get cut on Avid. The first Digital Films and the first fully HD films got cut on Avid not FCP.) Why? Because Avid has the built-in tools and support hardware to do those things. The drawback for the small-scale operator? Money. Though an Avid array is infinitely more affordable these days (I remember when you couldn't look at a barebones Media Composer rig for less than $50k) at the lowest level they're still a significant expense ($10k just for MC software and a Mojo DX converter alone.) When Vegas can support hardware acceleration, do full RT effects natively, and can fully support online networked arrays it will have fully arrived. I do look forward to that day, I just hope they remember to keep it affordable! Actually, you don't need to start a thread for which cameras to use with Vegas. Upfront the best cameras for Vegas are Sony cameras. Out of the box Vegas has full support for all of their digital based cameras. Probably way more with Vegas than FCP. However, most of the major prosumer and pro brand cameras are supported by Vegas. We use JVC and Canon with no prob. I hear Vegas 9 now has support for Red One in 2K. Plus Vegas supports nearly all of the other available formats from mini-dv to XDCAM HD. So your choice of camera will fall squarely within your circle of budget, skillset and creativity no matter what brand. yourvideographer on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46375 Fri, 01 May 2009 13:41:49 +0000 yourvideographer 46375@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I just got done talking to ADK Video Editing and I finally found what I was looking for. I talked to Dave and He was very helpful. He also suggested to talk to Eric about different media formats and cameras that work with Vegas. I am very excited, because I found a place that is helpful and not trying to push me to buy something more expensive than what is suited for my needs. In fact, Dave said Vegas will do the samething that Avid Media Composer does. I was very impressed, because he suggested vegas over avid!!!! So I told them I will call them Monday or Tuesday to figure out what is the best configuration for Vegas and buy it. Norman I can't remember if it was this thread or the To Build or Not to Build thread, but yes I am a man of faith and I have been praying for this whole process. Thank you for your prayers on this. Thank you everybody for all or your replies and information! I will probably start a new thread on what is the best HD Camera to get for Vegas next week. I just want to take it one day at a time and just let it happen. Thank you, Chad yourvideographer on "I need Help looking for a Computer to run Vegas Pro 8" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-need-help-looking-for-a-computer-to-run-vegas-pro-8#post-46374 Fri, 01 May 2009 12:44:59 +0000 yourvideographer 46374@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Well I just called The Video Guys and they were not much help at all with my questions. I am disappointed. I feel like I could have gotten better answers from my dog.