http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: HD Editing - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:40:13 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-hd-editing-with-premiere-elements#post-74251 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:59:20 +0000 jstraub78 74251@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>It looks like I missed out on the ASUS deal anyway.  I'm not a perfectionist to the point where I need my video to be true 1080 during editing.  I can handle working with 720 resolution, as long as the actual screen dimensions (16:9 aspect ratio) are maintained and it exports to 1080.  </p> <p>What's the main reason I wouldn't want to use the internal hd for the editing?  I'm guessing probably a lot of defragmentation from rendering/deleting/moving around such heavy files.  </p> <p>What about hard-drive write speed?  I'm having a hard time finding a 7200 RPM drive in my price-range.  </p> <p>That makes me feel better that 4 gb of RAM still works well for you.  At least that is something you can upgrade.  I'm concerned if I choose a laptop with the wrong video card, that I'll be screwed...</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Joe</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-hd-editing-with-premiere-elements#post-74231 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:31:51 +0000 Kenkyusha 74231@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Asus laptops get pretty consistently high marks from editors.&nbsp; With that said, one thing to look for is 1080 screen (for full HD playback at full resolution), something that neither of those choices has.</p> <p>Also, I/O is important, as you won't want to use the internal drive as your 'scratch' drive whenever possible.&nbsp; Esata and USB 3.0 (and FW800... ish, but that isn't an option on most laptops anymore) are&nbsp;fast enough to do real-time edits with an external disk/array.</p> <p>I run Production Premium CS5 (Premiere Pro, Photoshop,&nbsp;After Effects, Soundbooth, Illustrator, Flash, etc.)&nbsp;on an i7 laptop with only 4 gigs of RAM (still waiting to upgrade) and it chews-through&nbsp;HD footage of different flavors without issue.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/laptop-for-hd-editing-with-premiere-elements#post-74219 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:32:34 +0000 jstraub78 74219@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi guys. I'd like to buy a laptop to use primarily for hd video editing (1080p AVCHD from my Panasonic HDC-TM90K camcorder). I'd like to use either Adobe Premiere Elements 10 or PowerDirector 10.  My hd video editing is for personal/family videos, not professional, but I still want respectable quality.</p> <p>My question is, what should I primarily focus on when selecting a laptop for running this?  From what I've researched, it looks like a fast processor, hard-drive speed, and good video card should be my main concerns.</p> <p>This is going to replace my aging hp desktop.  My price range is around $700-800.  I've looked at the spec page on the Adobe and PowerDirector websites.  I'm guessing these are minimum requirements though.  I don't want something that will just "work", but take forever to render. Final video lengths will typically be from 5 minutes to about 2 hours max.</p> <p>I'm thinking something like these two...</p> <p><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&amp;N=100006550%2050001259%2040000032&amp;IsNodeId=1&amp;bop=And&amp;ActiveSearchResult=True&amp;CompareItemList=32%7C34-230-131%5E34-230-131-TS%2C34-214-486%5E34-214-486-TS">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&amp;N=100006550%2050001259%2040000032&amp;IsNodeId=1&amp;bop=And&amp;ActiveSearchResult=True&amp;CompareItemList=32%7C34-230-131%5E34-230-131-TS%2C34-214-486%5E34-214-486-TS</a></p> <p>My biggest concerns are: is 6 GB enough RAM and will the Intel Integrated HD Graphics card (on the Toshiba) work as well as the dedicated NVIDIA Geoforce GT-540M card (on the Asus)?  The Asus also has a bit less memory and no blu-ray player (not a big deal).  I may play some games on it, but the main purpose is for HD video editing, web-browsing, Word programs, etc...  Oh and they both have 5400 RPM hard-drives instead of 7200 RPM.</p> <p>Does anyone else here use a laptop to run Premiere Elements?  If so, what kind of system do you have?</p> <p>Thanks for any suggestions!</p> <p>Joe</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-quality-for-sd-t2i-vs-dvx100b#post-73895 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:45:48 +0000 Jesse 73895@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks Joseph. For the record, I can get the T3i or the DVX100b for about the same price: $800 (the DVX would be used, the T3i would be new).... without any extras.The consumer in me prefers the DSLR over the DVX, but pragmatically I just don't know... inferior audio capabilities, the apparent need for costly lenses, and other extras. The shotgun-mic-friendliness of the DVX combined with the dual XLR inputs on the side seem really nice. And truthfully I expect to make $0 with either camera, so I'm much more concerned with my ability to use it to develop skills as a filmmaker than I am with pleasing clients. So I can't shake the feeling that a dedicated video device like the dvx100b would be a safer choice...Would you happen to have any samples of the T3i's 640 x 480 footage?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-quality-for-sd-t2i-vs-dvx100b#post-73883 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:37:39 +0000 Joseph Dellwo 73883@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Kudos for being realistic about your laptop.  I wouldn't throw HD at it either.</p> <p>As for cameras - let me say there is no all purpose, perfect for everyone and everything camera.  Think hard about what you intend to do with your camera when considering the right one for you.  And will it serve your needs three years from now?  Five years from now?  Who is your audience?  Who are your clients?</p> <p>If you already had a T2i I wouldn't recommend dumping it for the T3i.  But since this is your first camera I would whole heartedly demand you beg, borrow, or beg harder to get the extra cash for a T3i over the T2i.</p> <p>It does have less than full HD with an SD/VGA setting at 640 x 480 (30p (29.97) and 25p fps.)  So your laptop ought to manage for now.  Plus it has all the HD juice you need for later.</p> <p>THE MOST IMPORTANT reason I recommend the T3i is the variangle screen (or as I call it - the flippy outy screen on the back.)  I use that ALL THE TIME.  Well, not ALL the time, but I use it at some point during every shoot I've done with it either still or video.  And it has manual audio controls (even if they are a little user unfriendly.)</p> <p>So should you get the T3i or the DVX100?  </p> <p>This is my two cents - I wouldn't pay a dime for a mini-DV camera right now because you're not going to make a dime with it.  I sold my entire XL1 kit for $600 and was happy to get it.  I'm sure the Panny is an excellent DV camera but it's still a DV camera.  Clients want HD - not SD.  (Is the DVX100b really two grand???  You can buy a T3i AND a basic production kit or new laptop for that.)</p> <p>The T3i is a camera you can one day make money with.  It's not an event camera - it's a production camera.  (Although I do use mine as a second camera for weddings.)  HDSLRs are just not ergonomically suited for events without an unreasonable amount of modification.  But if you want to shoot commercials, short films, etc. - the T3i will do it.</p> <p>Oh, and it's a pretty darn good still camera to boot!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-quality-for-sd-t2i-vs-dvx100b#post-73881 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:12:28 +0000 Jesse 73881@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I want to buy a decent entry-level camera for shooting video. My dilemma is that I would like to get the Canon T2i / 550D, but I don't think my computer is powerful enough to edit HD video (laptop, Core 2 Duo 1.67GHz, 2GB ram, standard video card) but I think it would be fine for editing SD footage. So my lack of budget for computer upgrades is pushing me to get a DV cam, like maybe the Panasonic DVX100b, which will produce great video that I can actually work with, but sadly no HD. The downside is that if I ever want to jump up to HD, I would need a new camera.</p> <p>So I'm wondering if the Canon takes comparable video in SD? If this were the case, I would buy it, so that if one or two years from now I upgrade my editing system or gain access to HD editing systems through school, I'll be glad to have the HD camera. Plus, the T2i has the major advantage of also being a great camera for stills. So basically, if you wanted to produce decent films over the next year in SD, would you buy the DVX100b or the T2i? Thank you.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/difference-between-hd-editing-and-regular-video-camera-editing#post-46136 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:57:37 +0000 czvp 46136@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> yes i use sony vegas movie studio 9. well i just upgraded to 3gb ram a month ago and i dont have a core 2 duo processor. i have an intel pentium processor. i should upgrade my processor also?? </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/difference-between-hd-editing-and-regular-video-camera-editing#post-46121 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:17:06 +0000 birdcat 46121@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Are you using Vegas Movie Studio 9 or an advance copy of Vegas Pro 9 (they are different).</p> <p>In either case - they both edit AVCHD and HDV well IF your machine is powerful enough (Core 2 Duo at least) and has enough RAM (2 GB min).  The minimum system requirements may not say this but it has been my experience with Pro 8 running on a Core 2 Duo/2GB machine which was OK (not great - barely passable).</p> <p>If you're having problems with AVCHD, VASST sells a cheap utility called UpShift which converts MTS files into M2T which are much easier to edit and keep just about all the quality.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/difference-between-hd-editing-and-regular-video-camera-editing#post-46111 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:06:13 +0000 czvp 46111@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> i see a lot of post about "hd editing", "formats" a lot of different things of that nature and im wondering if i buy one what will be different about editing. i use sony vegas pro studio 9? would i still be able to import videos the usual way or what would i have to "import hd video". basically im wondering if having a hd camera would change a lot of things besides good video footage. i was thinking if i had one i would just shoot a video and that be it but with all these post im thinking its going to change the whole way i video edit. can someone please fill me in?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/system-recommendation-for-hd-editing#post-44277 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:22:46 +0000 Johnboy 44277@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>rendering times will also be greatly affected by what is done to those clips.  are there a lot of effects applied?  is there a lot of color correction?  3-d movement?  are the frames having to be resized in any way?  Project properties and render properties are compatible or the same?  Also, check the program affinity to see how many cores are set to use.  Vegas uses the processor and not the video card when rendering.  Are you rendering to the same physical hard drive that the media is stored on?  You shouldn't be.  Do you do regular maintenance on the computer (i.e. blow dust out of case, fans, heat sinks...., hard drive maintenance etc.)  Heat buildup and improper ventilation will slow your computer down too.</p> <p>If you want to look at using intermediate files for editing, take a look at gearshift (<a href="http://www.vasst.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&amp;flypage=shop.flypage&amp;product_id=102&amp;category_id=74&amp;option=com_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=59">http://www.vasst.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&amp;flypage=shop.flypage&amp;product_id=102&amp;category_id=74&amp;option=com_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=59</a>)</p> <p>use the intermediates to edit with and when you go to render, replace the intermediates with the original footage.  Have fun with Vegas, it's a great production tool.  The studio versions are really good, but Vegas Pro will give the the best bang for your buck.</p> <p>John</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/system-recommendation-for-hd-editing#post-44240 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:36:13 +0000 CardR 44240@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote><p> Its to do with the decompression/compression your pc has to do before it renders. Either render your hdv footage into uncompressed or another intermediate codec before you do the editing or buy a $10000 pro camera with less compression.</p></blockquote> <p> How would I decompress/compress to that intermediate codec? With some software?</p> <p>Thanks for your reply. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/system-recommendation-for-hd-editing#post-44239 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:33:55 +0000 CardR 44239@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote><p>Your system specs appear to be fine for HD.  I would guess (from study and experience) that the problem is probably a result of the software.  One way to find out is to download a trial version of another editing program and see how long that takes.  I would recommend that you download the 30 Day Trial of Sony Vegas and then compare render times: <a href="http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/moviestudiope">http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/moviestudiope</a> Price is comparable to Pinnacle, and capabilites are far higher.  I'd be interested to know if you see any difference.  Hope this helps. Jeremy</p></blockquote> <blockquote><p>It did Jeremy. Vegas is much faster to edit with on this machine...much faster, so it's almost a pleasure to edit now compared to Pinnacle. However, rendering a 30 minute HD video takes about 1:45 min. I think they only way I going to speed up the rendering time is to get a much faster comp.  </p></blockquote> <blockquote><p>Thanks a lot for your suggestion.  </p></blockquote> <blockquote><p> </p></blockquote> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/system-recommendation-for-hd-editing#post-43880 Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:12:22 +0000 dcp 43880@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Its to do with the decompression/compression your pc has to do before it renders. Either render your hdv footage into uncompressed or another intermediate codec before you do the editing or buy a $10000 pro camera with less compression.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/system-recommendation-for-hd-editing#post-43877 Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:22:19 +0000 film814 43877@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Your system specs appear to be fine for HD.  I would guess (from study and experience) that the problem is probably a result of the software.  One way to find out is to download a trial version of another editing program and see how long that takes.  I would recommend that you download the 30 Day Trial of Sony Vegas and then compare render times:</p> <p><a href="http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/moviestudiope">http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/moviestudiope</a></p> <p>Price is comparable to Pinnacle, and capabilites are far higher.  I'd be interested to know if you see any difference.  Hope this helps.</p> <p>Jeremy</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/system-recommendation-for-hd-editing#post-43855 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:42:48 +0000 CardR 43855@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I got a Sony HD camera as a Christmas present and then bought Pinnacle Studio Ultimate to edit the videos.</p> <p>Well it took me about 10 hours to make a 23 minute HD video on my computer.  I have a Quad QX6700 2.66 GHz cpu, NFORCE 6801 SLI4, 4 GB PC2 8500 Memory and a XFX 7950 GT with 512 megs. I can’t believe how slowly it rendered and made the transitions. I almost gave up in boredom.</p> <p>Is there anyway I can speed up this system or should I just get a faster setup to work on HD video? And if so what should I get?</p> <p>Thanks Much.  </p>