http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: DVX100B - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:26:10 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-quality-for-sd-t2i-vs-dvx100b#post-73895 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:45:48 +0000 Jesse 73895@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks Joseph. For the record, I can get the T3i or the DVX100b for about the same price: $800 (the DVX would be used, the T3i would be new).... without any extras.The consumer in me prefers the DSLR over the DVX, but pragmatically I just don't know... inferior audio capabilities, the apparent need for costly lenses, and other extras. The shotgun-mic-friendliness of the DVX combined with the dual XLR inputs on the side seem really nice. And truthfully I expect to make $0 with either camera, so I'm much more concerned with my ability to use it to develop skills as a filmmaker than I am with pleasing clients. So I can't shake the feeling that a dedicated video device like the dvx100b would be a safer choice...Would you happen to have any samples of the T3i's 640 x 480 footage?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-quality-for-sd-t2i-vs-dvx100b#post-73883 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:37:39 +0000 Joseph Dellwo 73883@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Kudos for being realistic about your laptop.  I wouldn't throw HD at it either.</p> <p>As for cameras - let me say there is no all purpose, perfect for everyone and everything camera.  Think hard about what you intend to do with your camera when considering the right one for you.  And will it serve your needs three years from now?  Five years from now?  Who is your audience?  Who are your clients?</p> <p>If you already had a T2i I wouldn't recommend dumping it for the T3i.  But since this is your first camera I would whole heartedly demand you beg, borrow, or beg harder to get the extra cash for a T3i over the T2i.</p> <p>It does have less than full HD with an SD/VGA setting at 640 x 480 (30p (29.97) and 25p fps.)  So your laptop ought to manage for now.  Plus it has all the HD juice you need for later.</p> <p>THE MOST IMPORTANT reason I recommend the T3i is the variangle screen (or as I call it - the flippy outy screen on the back.)  I use that ALL THE TIME.  Well, not ALL the time, but I use it at some point during every shoot I've done with it either still or video.  And it has manual audio controls (even if they are a little user unfriendly.)</p> <p>So should you get the T3i or the DVX100?  </p> <p>This is my two cents - I wouldn't pay a dime for a mini-DV camera right now because you're not going to make a dime with it.  I sold my entire XL1 kit for $600 and was happy to get it.  I'm sure the Panny is an excellent DV camera but it's still a DV camera.  Clients want HD - not SD.  (Is the DVX100b really two grand???  You can buy a T3i AND a basic production kit or new laptop for that.)</p> <p>The T3i is a camera you can one day make money with.  It's not an event camera - it's a production camera.  (Although I do use mine as a second camera for weddings.)  HDSLRs are just not ergonomically suited for events without an unreasonable amount of modification.  But if you want to shoot commercials, short films, etc. - the T3i will do it.</p> <p>Oh, and it's a pretty darn good still camera to boot!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-quality-for-sd-t2i-vs-dvx100b#post-73881 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:12:28 +0000 Jesse 73881@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I want to buy a decent entry-level camera for shooting video. My dilemma is that I would like to get the Canon T2i / 550D, but I don't think my computer is powerful enough to edit HD video (laptop, Core 2 Duo 1.67GHz, 2GB ram, standard video card) but I think it would be fine for editing SD footage. So my lack of budget for computer upgrades is pushing me to get a DV cam, like maybe the Panasonic DVX100b, which will produce great video that I can actually work with, but sadly no HD. The downside is that if I ever want to jump up to HD, I would need a new camera.</p> <p>So I'm wondering if the Canon takes comparable video in SD? If this were the case, I would buy it, so that if one or two years from now I upgrade my editing system or gain access to HD editing systems through school, I'll be glad to have the HD camera. Plus, the T2i has the major advantage of also being a great camera for stills. So basically, if you wanted to produce decent films over the next year in SD, would you buy the DVX100b or the T2i? Thank you.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dvx100b-wextras-for-sale#post-61456 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:59:03 +0000 lensdoit 61456@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Items are in excellent condition &amp; for sale:</p> <p>1ea--dvx100b camcorder</p> <p>1ea--iKan V8000HD monitor</p> <p>1ea--manfrotto 521p rec/stop/zoom thumb control</p> <p>1ea--pelican carry-on roller case</p> <p>1ea--equipment dolly</p> <p>1ea--525MVB tripod w/501 head</p> <p>Sale price--$2,500</p> <p>Call (408) 564-2748 for more info &amp; will email photos!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/torn-between-pd170-and-dvx100b#post-54761 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:37:05 +0000 Derek Sine 54761@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>DVX if your going for a cinematic look - great camera line. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/torn-between-pd170-and-dvx100b#post-51239 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:36:55 +0000 ophelia 51239@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I have been looking into both of these cameras too, with a lean towards the DVX 100B.  I've also looked at the GL2 (great optical zoom).  I am in need of a camera to shoot sports (documenting workouts / training).  I don't use a tripod since I often need to be "within" the action.  Any suggestions?  I'd prefer SD for now.  Anyone have a comment on the Panansonic GS500?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/torn-between-pd170-and-dvx100b#post-50594 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:14:57 +0000 robGRAUERT 50594@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Both cameras are great cameras. I think you will be extremely satisfied with both, and you will find some minor things you don't like about both. That's just how it is.</p> <p>I wouldn't let 24p become an issue either. You never see 24p. If you burn it to a DVD, the DVD player just adds pull-down so that is plays back at 29.97 anyway. I guess some sites like Vimeo play HD at 24p, but I can't tell the difference, and computer monitors work better at 30p. 24p is useless and only noobs think they need it. Only noobs consider it the holy grail of video. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/torn-between-pd170-and-dvx100b#post-50592 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:35:33 +0000 KenzoFKC 50592@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>DVX-100B all the way.<br /> I would dispute that the PD-170 does better in low light, but I have no evidence to support the claim, so I won't make it.</p> <p>As for the auto focus on the DVX, I've never had a problem with it.<br /> Here is something shot with a DVX - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z39tD1wK6wA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z39tD1wK6wA</a><br /> "Iraq In Fragments" was nominated for an Academy Award.</p> <p>Also - vimeo.com/kineticvision - 90% of these were shot with a DVX B.<br /> The others are HMC-150 and XL-1. You'll be able to tell the difference. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/torn-between-pd170-and-dvx100b#post-50573 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:24:24 +0000 OsiViper 50573@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yea, those are some of the reasons i was leaning towards the P170. I mean it doesnt get 24p but ive seen some of the video it gets, it gets amazing quality.</p> <p>I also saw a video on Youtube that compared 4 cameras for color, low light etc.. and I loved the look of the P170 on all of them.. ESPECIALLY the low light, most of the cameras in low light had kind of washed out colors and no shadow detail. the P170 had very good colors in low light AND very nice shadow detail </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/torn-between-pd170-and-dvx100b#post-50552 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:00:07 +0000 robGRAUERT 50552@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hmm, well here are the reasons why I got a PD170 over a DVX:</p> <p>1) I used my friend's DVX to shoot basketball once and the auto focus was to slow. It was annoying. When the camera finally did focused, tighter shots seem to have a shallower DoF with the DVX as opposed to the PD170, which is nice, but that doesn't override the fact that the DVX just took too long to focus. </p> <p>2) the PD170 is MUCH better in low light. </p> <p>3) PD170 comes with a short shotgun mic</p> <p>There are some things that I don't like about the PD170 though:</p> <p>1) When you turn the LCD 90 degrees (so that it's parallel to the ground) it blocks the iris wheel and makes it hard to adjust exposer. </p> <p>2) adjusting the audio levels manually is in a menu screen as opposed to 2 knobs on the body of the camera. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/torn-between-pd170-and-dvx100b#post-50525 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:35:40 +0000 OsiViper 50525@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I've been trying to decide on a good "Prosumer" as their called camcorder.<br /> And Its been kind of narrowed down between the Sony PD170 and the Panasonic DVX-100B.</p> <p>I have done a lot of research between the two. I was looking for a camera that does well in low light and both of them do very well. Looking for XLR audio connectors and both of them have that. Not a real preference on 24p, while it does look nice to get the film look there are programs now that can do it fairly well without making the video look horrible.</p> <p>And I know both are discontinued but they are around the same price range used.</p> <p>So right now I am torn between the two and unsure of which is better overall.<br /> Any help would be greatly appreciated </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dvx100b-or-vixia-hf100-to-hd-or-not-to-hd-that-is-the-question#post-46684 Mon, 11 May 2009 20:24:22 +0000 thinkbeinteresting 46684@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Now THAT'S the kind of straitforward advice I've been looking for!  Thanks Composite1 for making it clear.  Will do.  :)</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dvx100b-or-vixia-hf100-to-hd-or-not-to-hd-that-is-the-question#post-46629 Sat, 09 May 2009 17:29:01 +0000 composite1 46629@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Think,</p> <p>Dude are you seriously considering dumping a pro rig for a 'tourist rig'? Yeah the VIXIA shoots HD, so what? For you HD starting out would be nice but you've already got a good camera to start with and you're still going to need support gear and if you don't have it already, something to edit your footage on and software to do it with. Face it, unless those newsies you interned with hire you outright, freelancing is going to be your ticket. Potential clients will take you far more seriously if you have a rig that looks the part. I wouldn't pay you $15+ dollars an hour for you to work on my project with a camera that doesn't even have a viewfinder unless you had a serious set of chops and the rep to back it up. Keep the camera. You say you have $3k in the kitty left to get additional gear? Roll with that. I only had $4k to start my biz and buy gear! When you go shopping for gear, stick with B&amp;H Photo-Video or ProMax (if you plan to mac it up) and don't buy the most expensive (mics, batteries, etc. you can find.) Count your blessings. You are way ahead of the game.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dvx100b-or-vixia-hf100-to-hd-or-not-to-hd-that-is-the-question#post-46592 Fri, 08 May 2009 09:00:25 +0000 thinkbeinteresting 46592@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks for your thoughtful and comprehensive response Composite1.  I did pay for the DVX100B outright so it is mine in full - the only thing is I would need to get a tripod, mics (shotgun and lav?) and a light source which could easily run another $2000 minimum.  If I returned the DVX100B and got the Canon Vixia I would need to get a: mic w/adapter, remote lav, tripod, lens adapter and light which would again run me a min. of $2300 but save me possibly a few hundred in the end.  So just to be clear: since I've already bought and paid for the DVX100B you suggest keeping the camera?  I'm not locked in and I can return it.  I just want to make the best choice for me as a beginning shooter and my budget.  I have about $3000 left to spend maximum, $5000 in total.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dvx100b-or-vixia-hf100-to-hd-or-not-to-hd-that-is-the-question#post-46571 Thu, 07 May 2009 21:42:32 +0000 composite1 46571@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Think,</p> <p>Whether getting your first or next camera is always a tough choice. Familiarity with a camera line is a plus, but if it's not giving you the tools you need to get the job done it's time to look at others. Your main deciding factors are; what is your budget? Remember, you need not only the camera but batteries, recording media, tripod, camera bag at the minimum. What is your intended output? How you plan on distributing the footage/productions you shoot are a big factor as to what type and level of camera you pick. Last, that thing seriously needs to pay for itself by allowing you to work on gigs outside of the one's you produce until your's start bringing in money.</p> <p>1. If you're trying to do this stuff for a living, try to get as pro a rig as you can afford. I worked for a big well-funded production house and used the best gear in the biz. When I went out on my own, all I could initially afford was a 1CCD Hi-8 Handycam. After I stopped whining about how 'the mighty hath fallen', I began 'tricking' out the camera with wide and telephoto lens adaptors, an external stereo mic, an on camera light, tripod equipped with a LANC remote controller, creative lens filters and so on. Combined with my knowledge of how to shoot and my 'enhanced' consumer cam few people felt I didn't know what I was doing when I showed up and whipped that thing out. If you can get something more professional starting out it wouldn't hurt. Just make sure you can get a reasonable amount of supporting gear. Nothing worse than having a snazzy cam and can't do jack sprat with it because you don't have batteries and other important stuff....</p> <p>2. Get the camera you can afford with the stuff mentioned above in mind. Picking an HD cam is a tough choice because they come in so many format flavors. Tape? Solid State? Harddrive? 720p, 1080i or 1080p? Handheld or shoulder mount? Also, if you plan on editing your footage what non-linear software and OS platform is most compatible with your choice of cam? Far as 'saving for HD' goes, it's here. SD is still useful but the trend is for people shooting raw footage in HD then down-converting (despite SD still being quite good.)</p> <p>3. Renting is not practical without a firm budget with actual money set aside for the rental. You have to have a credit card, established credit with a rental house and confirmed insurance to cover potential loss or damage to rented equipment is required by reputable rental houses. Renting for a gig will take up a significant portion of any profits from the job when you're starting out. You're much better off having or in a pinch borrowing gear when starting out. Shooting film or video is a combination of composition, creative exposure and focus and proper sound management to tell a story. You can do that with a cheap or 'fancy rig.'</p> <p>4. I shot ENG video for 3 years but fortunately, was in a house that emphasized the 'cinematic' style of composition vice standard 'newsy' stuff. With the trend for 'iReporters' who give their footage for free, the days of news stringers is over. The trend now is for Vlogs and online video content and yeah, you can use a cheap camera but if you've had professional training use the best tools you can to separate you from the 'YouTube' hordes.</p> <p>5. That's not true. Most people who will be willing to pay you don't know the difference between well shot SD and HD footage and don't care. Most only care about how much it's all going to cost them. SD will be around in strength for at least another 5 years merely because it's still so expensive to make the transition to digital media, let alone HD. Besides, it's currently more economical to put SD video online than HD.</p> <p>6. Horse$%^#@!@#! The one advantage of solid-state recording is that your footage cuts out the digitizing process. Digitizing does take longer, but the logger has the opportunity to actually look at the footage during the process. You learn quickly whether shots are 'good' or 'garbage' and you only digitize the good ones. With solid-state you still have to look at the footage and take time to get rid of garbage clips to free up space on the harddrive. Also, with tape after you digitize the footage you have a pristine and stable archival format you can put on a shelf that didn't cost an arm and a leg.</p> <p>7. Amen. Once you have digitized, downloaded footage back it up.</p> <p>8. The camera you get starting out is going to have to perform as a 'Swiss Army Knife'. So a smaller prosumer/pro rig will be your best bet.</p> <p>Is the camera you have already paid for? If so, keep it. Do some memorable work with it and get something else when you can. If not, keep it since you've been paying on it and you need something to use to bring in gigs while you're prepping for your 'epic doc.' There are buttloads of cameras to choose from. Trawl through these posts because dozens of people have asked the same questions you have and there are plenty of good answers for you.</p> <p>Go forth and shoot.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dvx100b-or-vixia-hf100-to-hd-or-not-to-hd-that-is-the-question#post-46561 Thu, 07 May 2009 19:38:56 +0000 thinkbeinteresting 46561@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'm a video production student as well as a news intern.  The news station has told me to buy a camera and start putting together my own packages.  I have dreams of shooting a documentary, but I could also possibly get hired by the station.  I'm currently training with their shooters as well as in writing/producing.  I ended up buying a new dvx100b for $2000 total (we use the original dvx100 at school and I'm familiar with it) but immediately had buyer's remorse.  I've heard so many professional opinions I don't know which way to turn.  Here's the gist:</p> <p>1. ME: I'm familiar with the DVX line, like it and it has a good rep (plus I won't deny it looks professional)  I would like manual control and XLR inputs but would put up with an audio input used in consumer lines (guessing 1/8 inch)</p> <p>2. Teacher 1 opinion: "DVX100b is a great camera and HD is changing fast. wait and save for HD."</p> <p>3. Teacher 2 opinion: "buy a cheaper HD camera and rent a fancy cam when you get hired for gigs - it's all about framing anyway."</p> <p>4. Stringers use even cheaper canon HD's and their video makes the news</p> <p>5. opinion 5:"Everyone wants HD, no one will pay for your lame-o SD...SD is over."</p> <p>6. Opinion 6: "DV tapes take too long to ingest."</p> <p>7. Teacher 1: "Data/video saved to a Hard Drive and not backed up can be lost."</p> <p>8. My opinion: one caveat to the dvx is that I would also like to shoot climbing videos on the side and a smaller camera is better for that - though this is a minor side project.  Ideally I would like to shoot a short doc for KQED - that sort of thing, plus packages for news.</p> <p>So, should i return the DVX100B, save my money, get a consumer cam? </p> <p>Anyone got a better recommendation than the VIXIA? </p> <p>I'm planning on getting a tripod, mic, etc. no matter what camera I choose. I would really appreciate some guidance, and yes - I'm looking to make money with this camera.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wich-ones-better-sonyvx2100-panasonicdvx100b-or-canonxl2#post-37620 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:15:18 +0000 sham 37620@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>My advice is to go for the camera with XLR audio inputs.  Recently I bought the VX 2100 with a Beachtek adaptor.  I'm happy with the VX 2100 but disappointed with the Beachtek.  The Beachtek is made to be used with two mics but the sound from one of the mics keeps dropping in and out.  And then you can't use a Dynamic mic with it. The level is extremely low.  In short my experience with Beachteks is that they are good - for throwing away.   Then the 1/8 mini audio input on the VX 2100 isn't very robust.  I am expecting trouble with it. As a pro you need XLR inputs. So I would say: buy the XL2.  I have read that it is good in low light.  It has XLR and it's Canon.  Don't worry about the weight.  I have never been a muscular guy and I used to run with an Arriflex 35, with a loaded 400 ft magazine!   But, having said all that, instead of buying a standard def camera at this stage, why not jump into Hi Def?  If you're the serious videographer I think you are, you will have to go the Hi Def way, sooner or later.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wich-ones-better-sonyvx2100-panasonicdvx100b-or-canonxl2#post-36104 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:46:45 +0000 robGRAUERT 36104@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The DVX and XL offer more manual options than the VX I believe, at least with image adjustments. But the VX is really good in low light situations...like the reception. I'd go with the DVX over the XL. I think the XL is a pain in the ass, and doesn't really offer that much more even though it's priced higher. If you want interchangeable lenses, then go with the XL, but if not, DVX is the way to go. </p> <p>So some things to think about are:</p> <p>Is low light an issue?</p> <p>Do you need interchangeable lenses?</p> <p>Do you mind lugging around a large camera like the XL?</p> <p>What about sound? The DVX and XL have XLR inputs, which with the VX, you'll have to buy an adapter like the BeachTek thing.</p> <p>Do you want HD? You can shoot in HD and down convert to SD. It makes for really nice SD. Then you can offer HD videos and SD videos. That might open yourself up to more people. (neither of those 3 cameras shoot HD)</p> <p>Hopefully I was helpful, if not...feel free to ask more questions.  </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wich-ones-better-sonyvx2100-panasonicdvx100b-or-canonxl2#post-36103 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:19:28 +0000 Djasir 36103@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Â I'm a videographer from Indonesia and really need a others opinion about the 3 best seller cameras in my town. It's SonyVX2100, Panasonic DVX100B and Canon XL2. I want to buy one of those cameras for producing wedding video, music video clip and a company profile.</p> <p>I also have my project edit by myself. I've been using Sony Vegas for several years and feel really comfort.</p> <p>Wich one of those three camera suitable for my project and my Sony Vegas ver.5? Wich one produce the most clear image?</p> <p>Thx for your attention guys..</p>