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Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: concert - Recent Posts http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: concert - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:11:13 +0000 Shaun on "Adequate Sound Quality" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adequate-sound-quality#post-72646 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:22:37 +0000 Shaun 72646@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Yea, sound from the board for something like this is rarely good for the video.. the purpose of the soundboard is to set the levels for optimal sound 'in that room'. There's a few 'BUT's' in that statement, but I'm skipping them.. I agree that setting up at least 2 zoom like recorders is the way to go, unless someone else is recording, the just ask to do a film slate 'CRACK' at the end of the recording and have them include that in the final audio files they give you.. I've done that before and it mostly works... the bigger issue there is syncing the audio, for that have some b-roll of the audience or something :) Have you asked the guy before you how he got his audio? That'd be the first thing I did. Good luck. gldnears on "Adequate Sound Quality" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adequate-sound-quality#post-72644 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:09:47 +0000 gldnears 72644@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ RCvilla1122 sez, " I was asked to video a 'Youth Orchestra' Concert in December " I spect the advice to " tap into the house sound board " is a bit naive. If it were MY concert I'd make sure the house sound was OFF during the concert. Also, it's unlikely the " house sound " would have microphones placed optimally for a good orchestral sound recording pickup. However, there my be someone retained to do an audio recording ( I used to do a lot of classical performance recording work ). If so you may be in luck! It is THIS equipment you want to take a feed from, either direct into your camera or into a separate digital audio recording device. Rick Crampton MediaFish on "Adequate Sound Quality" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adequate-sound-quality#post-72485 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:49:46 +0000 MediaFish 72485@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ My choice and what I have done many times in the past is to plug into the main sound mixing board as birdcat suggested above (I would actually plug a Zoom recorder into the soundboard). However, I have found over the years that option is not always possible. In those case where the sound board is not an option we have used several Zoom H4N's on mini tripods - we have used both the built in mics and have used them with 2 mics plugged in and strategically placed per unit (it just depends on what is allowed). But I have to say that 99% of the time the best results came from being plugged into the house soundboard. birdcat on "Adequate Sound Quality" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adequate-sound-quality#post-72481 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:23:11 +0000 birdcat 72481@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Do you have access to the main mixing panel? If so, you could take a feed from there. doublehamm on "Adequate Sound Quality" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adequate-sound-quality#post-72477 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:59:51 +0000 doublehamm 72477@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Don't have time to elaborate, but order up a few Zoom H2s and plant them around the room. rcvilla1122 on "Adequate Sound Quality" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adequate-sound-quality#post-72474 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:19:26 +0000 rcvilla1122 72474@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Greetings Everyone! This is my first post..... I've been a video hobbyist for quite some time, and have done several different types of videos. But I was asked to video a "Youth Orchestra" Concert in December. This is a bi-yearly function and the person who was doing the video has decided to retire. I'm a little apprehensive about doing this since I've never have done this before. It is being held in the local community theater, and I was wondering what the best way of getting great sound. I have seen the video dvds of previous concerts and they seem to be pretty good. I just don't know how he achieved it. rs170a on "Talk noise in concert" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/talk-noise-in-concert#post-71221 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 04:51:11 +0000 rs170a 71221@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ You can try a tool like iZotope RX at <a href="http://izotope.com/products/audio/rx/" rel="nofollow">http://izotope.com/products/audio/rx/</a> but your problem is going to be that the voices of the people talking are in the same frequency range as that of the concert performers and when you reduce one, you reduce the other. Next time, try to get a feed from the sound board and mix this with the live sound you record separately. Mike shogge on "Talk noise in concert" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/talk-noise-in-concert#post-71218 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 02:38:28 +0000 shogge 71218@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi, I filmed and recorded sound in a concert using a hd recorder. However I get some talk-noise from people standding close to the recorder, is there a way to remove this noise with a FX or a plugin? And how do I do that? thanks fracolon on "Concert Video Recording" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/concert-video-recording#post-64086 Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:52:29 +0000 fracolon 64086@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Than you Grinner....I know that it might be a little cheassy but I will be using an Edirol Field recorder connected to an output of the sound mans equipment...is there another option that would provide a better in post.? grinner on "Concert Video Recording" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/concert-video-recording#post-64078 Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:50:29 +0000 grinner 64078@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ You'll pull audio from the house. Your camera selections are totally up to you. As you said, you'll be tweeking and matching colors in post. Pricing for this ranges from nada to seven figures. This is between you and your client. Think of your costs and time and do the math depending on your normal hourly rate. fracolon on "Concert Video Recording" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/concert-video-recording#post-64064 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:43:08 +0000 fracolon 64064@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Guys not a major concert (Want to head in that Direction) but I have been asked to video a new years event in South Beach. A portion of the block will be blocked off and I am setting three cameras to cover this events. Two are HD, one is SD. My quesiton is the following since the event will happen at night. Best camera to use...I am considering the Panasonic AG-HPX370 mainly because I need rich colors. and speaking of colors how to make sure that in post I can enhance what is already there. Since this is a small area I won't be using a Jib rather all cameras will be on tripods. I also need information on the post production of this event, as the event manager wants to sell the DVD, so I am not sure on the pricing for this events So, the next question is what does a prince for such an event run?. Thrid question is, It's live and but there will be post production work. So I need to have an idea on getting the best live audio and and sync with the video. Currentlly I use Premiere as my editor. So, Best Cammera so concert event...Color is very important Pricing for such events Best method of getting the live audio... I can be email directly to <a href="mailto:francisco.colon@att.net">francisco.colon@att.net</a> Thanks for anyhelp that you can provide.... Frankie gornboy on "Local Videographer Intern at BREATHEcast.com" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/local-videographer-intern-at-breathecastcom#post-40180 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:31:31 +0000 gornboy 40180@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ As a Christian videographer, I was appalled to see this post and the duplicate of it elsewhere on the 'net. Breathecast is apparently partners with some online sites that have paying advertisers. I don't want to appear to be bearing false witness, so I must confess that I did not check the paying status of their advertisers thoroughly. It just looks at first glanceÂ like they have paying advertisers. Perhaps it would have been better to allow God to provide them with non-paid help if that is what He desires for Breathecast, instead of Breathecast actually trying to get one on their own. Aspyrider on "Local Videographer Intern at BREATHEcast.com" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/local-videographer-intern-at-breathecastcom#post-40161 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:24:06 +0000 Aspyrider 40161@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Â With no pay I doubt they will get many takers. birdcat on "Local Videographer Intern at Christian Music Broadcasting" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/local-videographer-intern-at-christian-music-broadcasting#post-40160 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:59:00 +0000 birdcat 40160@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ But apparantly not so large and extensive as to be able to afford a fee paid to videographers? (Yes I know it's a dup but so was the original post) birdcat on "Local Videographer Intern at BREATHEcast.com" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/local-videographer-intern-at-breathecastcom#post-40159 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:58:11 +0000 birdcat 40159@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ But apparantly not so large and extensive as to be able to afford a fee paid to videographers? BREATHEcast on "Local Videographer Intern at BREATHEcast.com" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/local-videographer-intern-at-breathecastcom#post-40157 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:25:31 +0000 BREATHEcast 40157@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ BREAHTEcast InternshipÃ‚Â Program 2008!(Christian Music Broadcasting) The Christian Music Internet Broadcasting Network BREATHEcast.com is seeking a videographer intern to impact the world through providing Christian resources to the Christian community as well as non-Christian via the internet. Title : Videographer Intern Employer : BREATHEcast.com Location : 15 cities Employment type : Lo/No Deferred Age Requirement : Ã‚Â Ã‚Â No age requirement. Ã‚Â Period of internship : Oct. 2008 - Mar. 2009 Expected coverage of the Christian music scene includes : Concerts, Interviews, Worship Seminars, etc. Ã‚Â Responsibilities : -Covering 1-2 events per month. -Upload recorded material onto the BREATHEcast server within 2 days after each event. Ã‚Â Compensation : none Ã‚Â Apply for the BREATHEcast 2008-2009 Internship at : <a href="http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/">http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/</a> Ã‚Â If you have any questions, check out the FAQ at: <a href="http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/faq.htm">http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/faq.htm</a> Ã‚Â About BREATHEcast.com BREATHEcast.com is the largest and most extensive online source for Christian music in the nation. Opened to the public on October 30th, 2004, BREATHEcast.com houses the latest and greatest in all things Christian music including news, radio, videos, interviews and more from the best artists in every genre, including Contemporary, Rock, Worship, Gospel, Urban, and Southern Gospel. An active member of the Gospel Music Association (GMA) as well as a partner with other established ministries, BREATHEcast.com operates as a non-profit organization dedicated to the expansion of GodÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½s Kingdom through the medium of music and entertainment. We look forward to hearing from you! Email : <a href="mailto:faq@breathecast.com">faq@breathecast.com</a> Mail : 74 Trinity Place, Suite 1400 New York, NY 10006 Phone : 212-602-9903 BREATHEcast on "Local Videographer Intern at Christian Music Broadcasting" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/local-videographer-intern-at-christian-music-broadcasting#post-40156 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:16:09 +0000 BREATHEcast 40156@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ BREAHTEcast InternshipÃ‚Â Program 2008!(Christian Music Broadcasting) The Christian Music Internet Broadcasting Network BREATHEcast.com is seeking a videographer intern to impact the world through providing Christian resources to the Christian community as well as non-Christian via the internet. Title : Videographer Intern Employer : BREATHEcast.com Location : 15 cities -Atlanta, GA -Charlotte, NC -Chattanooga, TN -Dallas, TX -Houston, TX -Indianapolis, IN -Lancaster, PA -Myrtle Beach, SC -Nashville, TN -New York, NY -Newark, DE -Oklahoma City, OK -Orlando, FL -Sacramento, CA -San Diego, CA -Springfield, MO -Tampa, FL Employment type : Lo/No Deferred Age Requirement : Ã‚Â Ã‚Â No age requirement. Ã‚Â Period of internship : Oct. 2008 - Mar. 2009 Expected coverage of the Christian music scene includes : Concerts, Interviews, Worship Seminars, etc. Ã‚Â Responsibilities : -Covering 1-2 events per month. -Upload recorded material onto the BREATHEcast server within 2 days after each event. Ã‚Â Compensation : none Ã‚Â Apply for the BREATHEcast 2008-2009 Internship at : <a href="http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/">http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/</a> Ã‚Â If you have any questions, check out the FAQ at: <a href="http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/faq.htm">http://www.breathecast.com/2008Internship/faq.htm</a> Ã‚Â About BREATHEcast.com BREATHEcast.com is the largest and most extensive online source for Christian music in the nation. Opened to the public on October 30th, 2004, BREATHEcast.com houses the latest and greatest in all things Christian music including news, radio, videos, interviews and more from the best artists in every genre, including Contemporary, Rock, Worship, Gospel, Urban, and Southern Gospel. An active member of the Gospel Music Association (GMA) as well as a partner with other established ministries, BREATHEcast.com operates as a non-profit organization dedicated to the expansion of GodÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½s Kingdom through the medium of music and entertainment. We look forward to hearing from you! Email : <a href="mailto:faq@breathecast.com">faq@breathecast.com</a> Mail : 74 Trinity Place, Suite 1400 New York, NY 10006 Phone : 212-602-9903 BarefootMedia on "Improving audio capture" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/improving-audio-capture#post-36855 Mon, 26 May 2008 12:52:43 +0000 BarefootMedia 36855@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Let's get the easy stuff out of the way.Â If you display your audio as waveform on the timeline, you can visually synch the external digital audio to your video's audio signal.Â I do this all the time.Â But one caveat, try to keep a mic close to your external DR.Â I've had a couple of situations where the close in camera was getting the sound a couple of frames sooner than my wide cover shot.Â But there was some serious distance involved. I've been investigating using a DR to record a good stereo soundtrack.Â The real problems with an external DR recording are pretty obvious.Â You need to have good mics on the unit or be able to plug good mics into it.Â Most mics made for video are optimized for recording voices.Â To get good music reproduction, you need mics designed to record music.Â Some DR's are intended to record speeches, take verbal notes and the like.Â The units designed for music recording have mics designed for full frequency pick-up.Â Now the problem is that music mics are significantly more expensive.Â So like camcorders, the less expensive units have mics designed for voice recording.Â So the way to improve the brightness & bass in a recording is to get a better mic.Â The folks recommending pulling sound from the soundboard (or mixer) will get some improvement in frequency response.Â Unfortunately, unless you're in a sound studio, major parts of the sound are not mixed in.Â Rock bands (not in a stadium) do not mic the drums.Â They are already plenty loud, unless you're just recording the mixer out.Â So even if you use the mixer out, you still won't be getting an accurate recording of the music.Â This is the case with most venues for various elements of the mix.Â They mix the audio to sound good in the space they are in, not what sounds good over their headphones.Â So if you want accurate sound, you have to mic the room.Â And you have to mic it with quality mics designed for music. So where does this leave us?Â The DR can record great audio but only with great mics.Â If you had the great mics to start with, you could be recording great sound on the camcorder.Â But leaving the mic quality issue aside, you're hoping to improve your sound with the very sensible plan of getting closer to the source.Â The inherent problem is that the unexpected always seems to happen.Â Recording your master sound with no one or no way to monitor it will someday lead to that audio going south.Â Maybe a baby or a heckler is by one of the mics.Â Maybe the record button got double touched and never actually started.Â Maybe the battery you thought was new died unexpectedly.Â Maybe the DR is too close to a musician's stage monitor and your recording is dominated by one voice.Â Most of these problems can be prevented by having a person monitor the entire show through closed headphones. Here's what I planning.Â I'll get a fairly inexpensive DR with line/mic inputs & a headphone jack.Â I'll attach two mics placed for best stereo reproduction to the DR and record away, hopefully with a friend monitoring the recording.Â Then I'll assume that audio will be useless and do something similar to the shotgun on the camera & a wireless on near the stage.Â I selected a wireless mic system that doesn't have the mic hardwired to transmitter.Â I can then plug in my third music quality mic and I monitor my recording at the camcorder.Â If things went well, I now have a stereo recording from near the front, and two mono recordings of ambient sound at both ends of the venue.Â I can mix these four audio lines to make one excellent recording.Â And if there were problems, I should still have reasonable audio with just my two mono sources. i hope this helps with your question. donjonasson on "Improving audio capture" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/improving-audio-capture#post-36847 Mon, 26 May 2008 09:55:02 +0000 donjonasson 36847@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ The wireless near the performers has definitly been an improvment. Has anyone had experience with some of the better quality Digital Recorders ($200-400 range), are they a significant improvment over micing the camera?? What are the issues and techniques with syncing with the video in postproduction?? Johnboy on "Improving audio capture" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/improving-audio-capture#post-36679 Wed, 21 May 2008 13:14:45 +0000 Johnboy 36679@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ i would put a wireless mic or wired mic close to the performers and go with that.Â IF there is an audio board being utilized for any purpose, or if the stage has mics already and is fed to that audio board, take a feed from that. film814 on "Improving audio capture" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/improving-audio-capture#post-36655 Tue, 20 May 2008 18:15:33 +0000 film814 36655@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ If the concert is being recorded, see if you can get feeds out of the audio guys' mixer.Â This isn't always a possibility, but if it is, make sure to check your levels really well because the lines out of a mixer are quite often very loud. donjonasson on "Improving audio capture" http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/improving-audio-capture#post-36654 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:26:33 +0000 donjonasson 36654@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ I occasionally find myself videoing a concert on my Sony HVR-z1u. I usually shoot from the back of the room and have played with plugging a shotgun mic into one channel and placing a wireless lavalier mic near the performers and plugged into the other channel. This has been a big improvement over on-camera mic of course, but I would like to further improve the quality. I have considered replacing the lavalier with a handheld wireless.Â I am using a Sennheiser EK - SK 100 wireless set. I am also looking at digital recorders but am concerned about syncing audio and video. Would the Sennheiser SKM 100 handheld be better? How much improvement would I get with a DR and at what price level would I need to look at to get a significant improvement? What are the syncing problems likely to be when editing with Final Cut Suite? Any other suggestions???