http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: comparison - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:10:19 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-65557 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:50:35 +0000 onehorn 65557@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Seems to me you are right, the cameras are so new that few have any experience with them. I will say that from reading a bit about both cameras it would depend on what you are shooting as to which is better for your application.</p> <p>Most of what I do requires gathering audio from various sources. For that the Canon wins hands down. While one can get adapters (or make them) that little 1/8 stereo mini-jack on the SONY means poor audio from external sources period. With two XLR connectors (industry standard) one can use any number of different microphones and / or connect to other audio sources, such as mixing consoles, network feeds etc.. </p> <p>I'd love to have the interchangeable lenses rather than using lens adapters (such as wide angle or 35 mm adapter) but the flexibility of those XLR's for audio can't be beat. </p> <p>One can always move to a separate audio recording system, such as a small digital recorder with XLR inputs. This can be a hassle though when shooting many short individual shots, but I have done it when shooting bands live. I use the cameras onboard audio as a reference to synch the external audio in post, then mute or delete the onboard audio.</p> <p>One last item though. The Canon XA-10 uses a SINGLE 1/3" CMOS sensor and not 3 CCD as a previous post implied. So both the SONY and the Canon use single chip sensors. The SONY being an Exmor™ APS HD CMOS sensor (23.4 X 15.6mm) which if my math is correct, is roughly 0.92 X 0.59 inches. So the SONY has a much larger image sensor</p> <p>Until some manufacturer puts both interchangeable lenses and XLR into one camera, in this price range; well then, the choice is going to be dependant upon individual needs.</p> <p>The reality is that these cameras each offer a specific solution to different problems. They compete only in price point.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-65534 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:09:12 +0000 PJ McConnell 65534@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I would like to point out that so far, nobody that has posted here has had any experience with the XA10 and it is all based on specs and speculation. So far nobody has actually worked with it to judge it fairly.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64874 Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:37:43 +0000 The Warden 64874@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Gentlemen, I stumbled onto your posts about the Sony NEX-VG10 and you guys might just be the best feed back source for my dilemma.  i hope I can be short and not bore you, in hopes of everyone's opinion:</p> <p>I purchased the Canon 7D for the purpose of replacing my Canon Mark III so I could gain the benefit of stills/video in one unit.  I am either quickly learning that this video camera is NOT for fast-action sports shooting, or I am just not grasping the shutter settings and other needed settings to eliminate motion blur and ghosting (if I freeze a frame, I can sometimes see the court through their faces/arms/legs.) It also shakes like hell in my hands!  My biggest issue, losing detail in players faces when I am further away from the action.</p> <p>So, in your opinions, should I do one of the following:</p> <p>1- Stick with it.  You can achieve great fast-action video with little motion blur.  You just need to learn how to use it properly.</p> <p>2- Keep your Mark III and trade the 7D for the Sony NEX-VG10.  You are going to continue to have motion blur issues with the 7D trying to shoot low-light HS gyms basketball games, not to mention the difficult follow-focus limitations.  For the inconvenience of lugging around two units, you will end up with much better video, and you already get great stills with the Mark III.</p> <p>3- Keep your Mark III and trade the 7D for a 3CCD chip tape-driven camera, or something else that is best designed for capturing low light, fast-action footage.</p> <p>Thank you in advance for your input.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64852 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:52:19 +0000 David Forrester 64852@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Your welcome guys - filming is a lot of fun.  When I started off with the Sony Z5 (similar to the Canon XA10 in a way), I had a blast.  But when I tried to isolate the actors or give that shallow depth of field, I simply could not do it no matter what I tried.  The best way was to max zoom out to 590mm and get it that way - which won't work inside the house!!  That is when I got the Canon 5DMk2 and adopted my Carl Zeiss lenses from my almost extinct Contax camera system.  Yes I am on total manual and yes it took about 3 months to get the hang of it.  And Yes it was a pain to follow focus, but when done correctly - holy smokes, this this thing rocks!</p> <p>I knew in my soul that if Sony should ever come out with a DSLR full frame camera with the Exmor sensor, it would be the camera of the year.  It did recently- not full frame - but the size of the NEX VG10 - the A55 and it was voted as the camera of the year!!  It is incredible. Internal stabilization, no flip up mirror, follow focus in video mode - wow!</p> <p>Now I am saying 2 more things. If Sony comes out with a professional video camera with the NEX VG10 sensor - it will become the camera of choice for low budget film makers.  It will be stunning.  And if Canon comes out with the MK3 - it will take first place just ahead of the Sony A55 - because it will be a full frame sensor.  </p> <p>The ideal video / film system will be like this:  Main camera: Sony Z5 or Z7 or equivalent for a small 1/3" sensor to get that deep depth of field and great color, low light etc.  Camera 2: A Hollywood video sensor camera with the traditional depth of field we are used to - currently the NEX VG10 or if you have 100-$250k, the Arri, Red or Sony f35 systems!  and for the real creative shallow depth of field for insert shots or breaking new barriers, the third Camera:  the Canon 5DMk2 or 3 (plus the required gear to make it all work smoothly).</p> <p>It all depends what you want to accomplish.  I want to do films - not video - so I am content with my system.  If I want to do video only, the Sony Z5 works wonders. If I want to do still photography, shallow DoF, video night shots, and video or still creative and artistic work the Canon 5D wins every time.  (but I need a separate sound recorder for 4 channel). it does get expensive, but what the hell, live life to the fullest and have fun.</p> <p>This folks is film making at its best.  Now git out there and make a ton of films.  And laugh and be happy.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64851 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:26:08 +0000 Brian 64851@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><strong>David</strong> - Thanks for the incredibly valuable reply.  Awesome.</p> <p><strong>XTR-91</strong> - Gotta correct you here.  Are you saying the Canon XA10 is tape?  If so, that's inaccurate.  It's got a 64GB internal hard drive plus two slots for SD cards.  And the Sony NEX VG-10 retails for around $2000.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64847 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:32:01 +0000 XTR-91 64847@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The biggest thing is that the Canon is tape, and it has a more thought-out set of manual controls, but just by the nature that it is $4,000, and the vg's</p> <p>$1600</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64846 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:54:40 +0000 vid-e-o-man 64846@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Thank you David, that was an excellent explaination of the sensor comparison. I thought that I had lost your train of thought in the last two lines 'When depth of field is a non issue and the lighting is right, the Sony wins every time. But when I need that shallow depth of field and to isolate the actors, or  night shots, the Canon wins.' But then as I reread your post a second time I realized that the Sony that you were refering to was your Sony Z5 not the  Sony NEX-VG10. Any way thank you once again for the time you took and your expertise for this reply. I find that this forum is a gold mine of information and that the posters are very generous with their time and knowledge.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64835 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:02:58 +0000 David Forrester 64835@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I think I can help out here with some practical notes.</p> <p>I have 2 cameras - a Sony Z5 with 3 -1/3" exmor sensors and a Canon 5D Mk2 with a full frame sensor (36x24mm).  2 very different cameras that accomplish 2 vastly different objectives.  Both deliver astounding HD video, but are as different as night and day.  Similar for the 2 cameras you ask about.  </p> <p>The new Sony has 1 large Exmor sensor - about the same size as a Hollywood 35mm film size, the Canon use the 3 1/3 sensor system.  1/3" is the size of the circle of the image from the lens and it basically covers the 3 sensors in the Canon - one for red, green and blue (ya - diagonal measurement).  The big difference is that by optical properties on 1/3" sensors, it is impossible to get a shallow depth of field to focus and effectively isolate the main subject from the rest of the image even at wide open aperture.  But the Sony, with it's larger sensor can do it - just like in Hollywood films, just like a 35mm camera.  Focusing becomes very critical in a large sensor camera and more care is needed to make the best use of it.</p> <p>It is easy to use a 1/3" sensor camera because focusing is not nearly as critical as almost always the entire image will be in reasonable focus .  At wide angle, focusing is always almost perfect from close to infinity.  Which really sucks when you want the main actor to be in focus and the background out of focus - it can't be done!  But the Sony can do it reasonably well.  </p> <p>Now here is the problem:  You are always on high alert with the Sony to get the main subject in focus.  You can dial in or out the rest of the subject to be in focus (somewhat) by altering the aperture (iris).  The larger it is (ie f2 or so) the more isolated the subject material is in front of or behind the main actor (or subject) is -which is fantastic if that is what you seek to accomplish.  if you want the foreground, background or all of the subjects to be in focus as well, you dial in f11-16 or so - depending on how much you want that to be in focus.</p> <p>This is the true art of creative film making and that is what the new Sony and my Canon 5DMk2 does so brilliantly - but even more so with the 5D.  It is a bear to use and you are always always on your toes to get the subject in critical focus.  It is not easy by any stretch.   If the subject moves forward or backward, you have to adjust your focus to follow the subject - that is called follow focus.  It is cinematography far more than videography. it is a far more creative process producing gorgeous out of focus backgrounds that makes filming with these cameras so powerful - the final result is different as night and day and much nicer overall - but takes practice to get the most out of it.</p> <p>OK - the other questions:  XLR inputs.  These are for professional external mic or sound inputs.  The Sony has a brilliant sound system mounted up top, but really, the best sound comes from independent mics placed near the actors plugged onto the camera - that Canon can do this, the Sony - well, not the best system out there.</p> <p>Sensors.  The Sony Exmor sensor is world class.  It is a method of capturing the image in such a way as to produce an image this is free from aliasing, has outstanding color, low noise, low light capability - better than anyone else. Even in my Canon 5D, I can see the grid pattern at times - and I hate it!  Don't have that problem with the Sony - smart move!</p> <p>The large sensor in my Canon 5DMk2 is enormous.  Because of the large size, I can take night pictures with velvet blacks and low / no noise with the right lens at f 1.4-f2.  Same with the new Sony.</p> <p>These are tools that you have to choose what you want to do with you filming.  The creative door generally means large sensor.  The ease of use and video filming means small sensors.  For me, I want both! So I use both.  When depth of field is a non issue and the lighting is right, The Sony wins every time.  But when I need that shallow depth of field and to isolate the actors, or night shots, the Canon wins.  it is a formidable team, that's for sure.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64834 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:00:14 +0000 Richard Myers 64834@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Any ideas on how to make a goof video for Flight Simulator?</p> <p><a title="Virtual Airlines" href="http://www.simmiles.com/">Virtual Airlines</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64833 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:18:17 +0000 WSanford 64833@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>While I have no experience with the new Canon, I have had two months with my NEX-VG10. I was a Canon guy for several years and this is my first Sony. I haven't found the VG10 hard to work with and I film outdoors 99% of the time so what I've gotten out of being able to change lenses has made the world of difference for me. </p> <p>Its going to boil down to what an individuals needs are but I couldn't even think of going with the Canon on this one. The audio I get out of the VG10 suits my needs and exceeds them, so I voted the VG10 but thats what fits my needs better. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64830 Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:54:07 +0000 Brian 64830@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Good question... I was wondering about those same things. Maybe someone can enlighten us?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64829 Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:50:03 +0000 vid-e-o-man 64829@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I haven't tested either one and I'm not trying to highjack your thread but comparing the two how does the sensor in the Sony (23.4 mm x 15.6 mm) relate to a 1/3 or 1/4 inch sensor? Does the 1/3 or 1/4 inch refer to a diagonal measurement? Also, how would the Sony's sensor compare to a 3 ccd or 3 cmos sensor setup?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-nex-vg-10-or-canon-xa10#post-64828 Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:30:13 +0000 Brian 64828@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have not yet seen any comparisons between these two cameras.  I know, they're both brand new on the market and there hasn't been much time to do a real in-depth analysis.  So without having them in my hands, here are just a small sampling of the differences I've seen online that might tip the scales toward one or the other:</p> <p>Price...<br />Sony: about two grand<br />Canon: about two grand</p> <p>Interchangeable lenses...<br />Canon: Nope<br />Sony: Yup</p> <p>Mic inputs...<br />Canon: 2 XLR's<br />Sony: single stereo 1/8" jack</p> <p>On-board microphone...<br />Canon: Nope, but there's a mount + individual audio controls<br />Sony: Yup, that awesome 4-pod thingy</p> <p>Kit lens...<br />Sony: 18-200mm<br />Canon: "35mm equivalent of" 30.4mm - 304mm</p> <p>Still photo capability...<br />Sony: JPG, 14.6 megapixel<br />Canon: nope</p> <p>Anybody been able to test both of these side-by-side yet?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/part-3-of-the-great-shootout-2010#post-60185 Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:10:52 +0000 composite1 60185@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The folks at Zacuto have finally put up this last episode and I strongly believe those of you trying to decide between a traditional video camera and a DSLR will be able to make up your minds after watching this.</p> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/12919826">The Great Camera Shootout 2010 Web 3: The Revolution Begins...</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/zacuto">Zacuto USA</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-59160 Fri, 28 May 2010 14:47:57 +0000 composite1 59160@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Finally! The folks at Zacuto have put the last episode of the GCS 2010 out and it's an eye opener! Take a look....</p> <p><a href="http://www.zacuto.com/shootout">Shootout Ep. 3</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-58905 Sun, 23 May 2010 08:20:03 +0000 composite1 58905@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Took a while, but they've finally released ep 2 so here it is. This ep deals with the DSLR's and their light sensitivity. I think you'll be blown away at what you'll see!</p> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/11082700">Zacuto Great Camera Shootout 2010 Webisode 2: How Sensitive Can You Get?</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/zacuto">Zacuto USA</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> <p>Eventually, ep 3 will come out as it is way overdue. Keep you posted.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57781 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:21:29 +0000 composite1 57781@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Finally, the Zacuto Team has released the first ep of 'The Great Shootout 2010' so you can watch it directly. The final ep shows in May and I'll put it up as soon as they do. In the meantime, enjoy ep 1!</p> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/11080239">Zacuto Great Camera Shootout 2010: It's all About Latitude</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/zacuto">Zacuto USA</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57233 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:29:43 +0000 composite1 57233@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>"Learning all the ins and outs of even a basic DSLR like the T2i is going<br /> to be daunting."</em></p> <p>Neil,</p> <p>The main diff between a dedicated video cam and a DSLR in my eyes comes down to the means of acquisition. That meaning that a video rig has camera controls specific to video recording. DSLR's are like film cameras in their controls (particularly in manual mode.) Having been a photog for years as well as a vidiot, the transition to DSLR wouldn't be that tough. In fact, whether video or still I always shoot with manual settings. </p> <p>With a DSLR, you'll need to learn basic exposure theory and have to spend a bit more time thinking about how you acquire your images. The old 'oh all you need is a camera' type of thinking novices have when it comes to shooting will cause you tons of grief in the field and in the edit bay. Cool thing is, you've got the gear now which puts you ahead of the game. Now, you need to pick up some books on basic photography and videography for now the lines between the two are blurring. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57230 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:44:49 +0000 neilrussell 57230@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I guess I was making that statement with too broad a context. I think it's going to be a while before a lot of indies (those that do their own shooting and DP work) jump into a DSLR with both feet. </p> <p>Meaning me.</p> <p>For someone with no experience with SLR still cameras (me again), learning all the ins and outs of even a basic DSLR like the T2i is going to be daunting. I'm all for giving it a try because I'm really jazzed about the images it can make. I'm seeing it as a companion to my existing HD camera.</p> <p>I've been watching Scarlet with keen interest since it was first announced. Remember those pioneering days of "3K for $3K"? I'm still in even though a fixed lens appointed the way I want; side handle and pro audio module, is still going to be a bargain at $7K</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57228 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:22:39 +0000 composite1 57228@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>"DSLRs may be specialty tools for independent film makers, but for those<br /> must-have shots they are certainly worth considering."</em></p> <p>Neil,</p> <p>I'm not so sure DSLR's can be considered 'Specialty Tools' anymore. Last year alone has been proving that these are viable filmmaking tools. If you watched the first ep dealing with lattitude, the DSLR's gave film a serious run for the money. If I remember correct that the Canon's and the Nikon were able to expose out to 11 stops! If you want a video cam to do that you'd better break out the trust fund! Right now in my opinion, except for basic camera controls the DSLR's have a serious leg up on traditional video cameras. It's too bad it took photographers to bring this tech to life.</p> <p>The thing I like about the tests is that no camera is the 'do all' rig. Though I heavily favor the Canon line overall, the Nikon in low light is absolutely king! One thing I see no one's mentioned is that the Panasonic held it's color well in the low light tests though it couldn't hang with the others at the extreme ends. The different cam's really reminded me of my film days in that each one looked like a different 'filmstock'. Now if Canon pulls their head out and puts a solid Noise reduction on their rigs, Nikon would be totally knocked out of the running. </p> <p>All I have to say is RED SCARLET had better have eatin' it's Wheaties or they're going to get eaten by the DSLR's!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57227 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:46:37 +0000 neilrussell 57227@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I couldn't get over how the Nikon handled the bic lighter test. I've read some squawks about noise in the black on some other forums, but it seems like nothing that couldn't be balanced out in editing.</p> <p>DSLRs may be specialty tools for independent film makers, but for those must-have shots they are certainly worth considering.</p> <p>With an increased demand I can't see how the camera makers can not continue developing the technology until the line between DSLR and camcorder starts to blur</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57198 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:38:06 +0000 composite1 57198@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Well kids, here's ep 2 of the 'Great Shootout'. Last time we saw camera latitude tests and the Canon/Nikon lines were the clear winners. Now the tests will show how these DSLR's handle low light against film and I do believe you'll be quite amazed!</p> <p><a href="http://www.zacuto.com/shootout">http://www.zacuto.com/shootout</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57055 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:04:55 +0000 composite1 57055@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>"I'd give the DSLRs some good thought, and then realize how lacking they<br /> are in terms of manual/video controls."</em></p> <p>XTR,</p> <p>Actually that's not exactly true these days. Canon has officially put in a number of manual controls in their firmware updates and there are several third-party firmware hacks that give controls over picture quality and audio levels. </p> <p>As I mentioned in the earlier post, DSLR video was an afterthought intended for photogs to do their podcasts with and shoot their photos with the same rig. Since the MkII, each Canon model has gained more and more manual controls for video as the photo engineering department has had their 'duh' moment as filmmakers and videographers are giving their input on what the rigs need for video. </p> <p>The main thing to keep in mind, a DSLR is not a video camera. It's a still camera that shoots video... damn good video! But now that they've gained popularity with filmmakers, the game is changing and set ups like the 'Shootout' are giving us a front row seat.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57053 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:37 +0000 XTR-91 57053@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>From what I've heard as being first introduced by Canon, DSLRs have made it a long way into the world of focal videography. They have, very effectively, set the new standards for what you'd expect of video out of a still picture camera. If I was moving into professional videography spending just over a grand on a cam for primary video, I'd give the DSLRs some good thought, and then realize how lacking they are in terms of manual/video controls. In my opinion, they're great if you're prime photographer looking to move into some aspect of video production, and they also produce great images (and video). But in the position of a videographer I'd still rather shoot natively, unless a broad range of focal options is very necessary. Still learning how to accomplish the "great shootout" with what I own.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57049 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:03:36 +0000 composite1 57049@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Crafters,</p> <p>Really, it's all about the CMOS chip engineering and what the overall design goals of the sensor was. It all comes down to chip and pixel sizes. Not to mention how the light data is interpreted and reprocessed. Truthfully, I think Canon and Nikon just got lucky in their initial design because neither company had any idea these rigs would get snatched up for the film &amp; television production industry. They made these rigs for photogs and wanted the imagery to hold up at high-res blow-ups either through projection or print. Panasonic it looks like didn't come in from that angle and had more of a 'video' minded design and for straight video, their imagery looks damn good!</p> <p>Don't sweat it, your 'horse may place or show' better in the next round!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-57047 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:40:43 +0000 CraftersOfLight 57047@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I keep going back to this one to watch/look at what they are looking for. Doing this to better understand some of the common video quality issues with actual comparison examples is great training IMO.</p> <p>As far as camera performance, I do not own that particular camera they are demonstrating but I do like the Panasonic cameras. My disappointment in this demonstrated model was with artifacts like the halo rings around the light in the reading scene, almost like the color/shading resolution was too coarse for the image. within my limited experience this appears it would occur in many other areas as well to varying degrees.</p> <p>It would be nice if they went into a little more detail as to why such artifacts occur. But then again that is not exactly what the series is about.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-56973 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:33:46 +0000 composite1 56973@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Crafters,</p> <p>Wow, I'm surprised anyone took a look at this. Seems like the 'what camera should I buy?' crowd would be interested not to mention those of us looking to 'level up' our overall production values.</p> <p>Don't be too disappointed with your cam's performance. One thing the first ep showed and was mentioned that all the cameras are good. Some however are better in certain areas and others get unique looks in certain conditions. That's pretty much what filmstock does. If you noticed, film was also better in some areas but couldn't hang with the Canon's or the Nikon in low light. Though it's still early in the shootout, it is plain that no camera will be the 'do-all' rig. It will come down to overall capabilities and how the image holds up on the big screen.</p> <p>The next ep should be up on April 7th. Apparently one of the topics they'll be focusing on is low-light shooting. I'm looking forward to seeing that. I'll put it up asap as long as Derek doesn't 'snag' it first! Don't think I didn't notice you putting up that blog input about the shootout right after I posted it Derek! Funny.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-56967 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:22:27 +0000 CraftersOfLight 56967@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Wonderful episode. I am  fan of Panasonic and was disappointed in its models performance in this first part. But then that is what this series is supposed to bring out of these cameras. </p> <p>When is the next part of the series due out for viewing?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-great-shootout-is-here#post-56756 Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:12 +0000 composite1 56756@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>As promised, today Tony Wiess and the Zacuto Team released part I of "The Great Shootout" where the top performing DSLR cameras go head to head in comparison against motion picture film. In this first episode, film latitude (the ability for film to be over or underexposed and still get an acceptable image) is examined. Though DSLR's use a video sensor instead of film, the sensitivity to highlight and shadow detail can still be measured in the same manner. Watch as the DSLR's perform against film in this series of tests and hear top flight pro's from George Lucas' Skywalker Ranch, the American Film Institute (AFI) and others from the motion picture industry give their comments. I think you'll be surprised!</p> <p><a href="http://www.zacuto.com/shootout">http://www.zacuto.com/shootout</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/sony-hvr-v1u-and-canon-xl2#post-56483 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:52:23 +0000 sk8brdr4life699 56483@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I am filming an indoor fashion show and have the choice between filming with a Sony HVR-V1U (in DV format, not HDV) and a canon xl2. what do you reccomend, i am not familiar with either camera</p>