http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Tag: analog - Recent Posts en Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:03:47 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/analog-video-users-today#post-74512 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:12:17 +0000 constantinos 74512@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You should not forget old "loves". I use it sometimes.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/analog-video-users-today#post-74505 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:32:33 +0000 Jennifer O'Rourke 74505@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Interesting question, Pete, I'd be curious to know the answer, too. I was just telling a co-worker about a recent trip to San Francisco where I saw two women at a tourist event shooting video. </p> <p>One was using an iPad - very awkward but what a viewfinder! The other was using an old Hi8 camcorder with a long eyepeice and no viewfinder [in my opinion, eyepeices are much better than the LCD flip-outs for fine-tune focusing.]  </p> <p>It was interesting to see both of them shooting on technology that was decades different from each other, and both seemed content with how they captured their footage. </p> <p>Most likely the Videomaker readers are going to be using more current technology, due to their desire to learn about the latest, but it doesn't mean they don't have or use these old formats at some time or another. </p> <p>Like "Composite 1" noted above, we keep one of each format here at the office in case we have a need to convert old footage. I was at a press event recently where Sony announced they are no longer going to manufacture any tape-based cameras anymore, even though some might still be popular.</p> <p>Retail sellers of video tape tell us that tape is still selling well, but sales have dwindled at bit. VHS tape can still be found in drugstores and some electronics stores.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/analog-video-users-today#post-74483 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:43:11 +0000 composite1 74483@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I've still got a digital high-8 camera mainly for playback of archived tapes. I haven't shot anything with it since 2002. Other than that all my rigs are digital tape or use flash media.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/analog-video-users-today#post-74477 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:28:08 +0000 Peter Rose 74477@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>With about 90,000 members to Videomaker, I am very curious as to how many of us are still using analog camcorders (VHS, VHS-C, S-VHS-C, 8mm, Hi-8, etc.).  I find it hard to believe that all of the Videomaker members are ALL into digital only.  I would like to have feedback from some analog members who still enjoy using this format vs digital (or maybe use both).  If everyone was shooting digital only, then there would be no market for analog tapes.  However, there are many outlets selling lots of analog tapes, including some of the camcorder manufacturers themselves.</p> <p>Any comments ad feedback, please? Thanks folks.  </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-only-have-usb-am-i-screwed#post-65903 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:30:47 +0000 signmax 65903@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi,</p> <p>Looking for a firewire card to use in a laptop is a PMCIA card this may be scarce. The only advantage of the old technologies is that you can obtain it at a very low price. Inconvenience you have to know the system before to buy it or have a resource to guide you or you risk to buy many material. I think that birdcat suggest the best solution.</p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>YR </p> <p>&lt;/span&gt; </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-only-have-usb-am-i-screwed#post-65895 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:06:54 +0000 ThomW 65895@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I guess I negleted to say that my friend has a laptop so signmax first option would not work.  Now, the PCMCIA <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815108019&amp;cm_re=1394_to_usb-_-15-108-019-_-Product">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815108019&amp;cm_re=1394_to_usb-_-15-108-019-_-Product</a>  is $100 ontop of the purchace of an RCA converter.  This is getting very expensive.  It's too bad they don't make an RCA input on that PCI Express card.  It's funny how the industry always seems to have a way to connect anything to anything except the only thing that you want they don't have. Thanks for your help I will relay this valuable info to my friend.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-only-have-usb-am-i-screwed#post-65890 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:41:12 +0000 signmax 65890@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi,</p> <p>I am agree with you birdcat cheap card or converter you loose time and money I use in the past the Pinnacle Studio capturing box and the result was good.</p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>YR</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-only-have-usb-am-i-screwed#post-65889 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:05:41 +0000 birdcat 65889@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You have several options.</p> <p>The first (and by far the easiest) is to purchase a combo VHS/DVD recorder.  I got one at COstCo for about $140 a year ago and I have, with the click of one button, recorded VHS tapes to DVD's (ok two more buttons - menu &amp; finalize).  You can then bring the DVD into your NLE and clean it up there - VOB files are really MPEG-2 files - you can just copy &amp; rename or treat the DVD as a camera version and capture using your normal means for that.</p> <p>Another option is, if you're using a desktop, do as Max suggested and install a firewire card - I recently go this one (<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815287005">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815287005</a>) and it works well for under $20.</p> <p>If you are using a laptop, there are PCMCIA or PCI Express cards like this - <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815108019&amp;cm_re=1394_to_usb-_-15-108-019-_-Product">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815108019&amp;cm_re=1394_to_usb-_-15-108-019-_-Product</a></p> <p>I would not go down the road of the converters, like the Dazzle, which connect your vcr to the USB ports - I have tried them in the past and they did not work well at all. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-only-have-usb-am-i-screwed#post-65869 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:41:12 +0000 hmueller 65869@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Roxio makes a converter for analog vhs and it plugs into USB ports</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-only-have-usb-am-i-screwed#post-65868 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:59:11 +0000 signmax 65868@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi,</p> <p>Is easy to solve this, go to computer store or Staple store buy a firewire card and install in your computer. This cost less than $50 also you can find second hand for few buck over eBay. New computer has no Firewire because new technology focus on USB 2.0 and now the new USB 3.0 USB cable is standard printer cable, firewire cable need to be purchased is not a current product. Probably you can find a complete high quality old capture system for 10% of the original price. </p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>YR</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/i-only-have-usb-am-i-screwed#post-65859 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:37:29 +0000 ThomW 65859@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> every product for converting analog (VHS) to a digital format seems to have an output via FireWire to the input of my computer.  But as I'm finding out not all PC's have a FireWire port.  What now?  Is there a USB solution or how else does one get there old home movies onto the computer that is not equiped with FireWire.  For now, my friend has to bring his crap over to use my computer where then I have to share so that he can get it onto his computer.  </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-cams-into-analog-switcher#post-61124 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:34:33 +0000 javapop 61124@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>yup, you are right, thanks!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-cams-into-analog-switcher#post-61114 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:30:18 +0000 robGRAUERT 61114@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>according to B&amp;H, this camera has component video...output I would assume. Component is analog, and MUCH better than RCA, which is composite. </p> <p>So you should be able to go into your switcher...</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-cams-into-analog-switcher#post-61113 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:09:15 +0000 javapop 61113@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>We have just upgraded to Cannon XHA1s cameras; but could not upgrade our analog switcher (Focus MX4) and was wondering about the possibility of catching a signal from the cameras, and sending it to the switcher.</p> <p>The cameras have BNC outs, as well as RCA.... anyone have ideas?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-54041 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:05:41 +0000 trobi19 54041@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Well, I'm pleased to say that capturing on to the C drive worked perfectly. I didn't drop any frames,and captured at highest possible quality. I'll probably go this route until I look into purchasing a new camera.</p> <p>Thanks</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-54040 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:39:21 +0000 SafetyMan 54040@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I don't know what quality or price range you are considering, so I will tell you my preferences.</p> <p>My favorite consumer cameras are Canon.  The one that I use for home use is several years old and is an Optura 40 (When I bought it it was considered a High End consumer camera).  It has a hotshoe and mic jack and analog inputs.  I will often use it as a second camera in 2 camera shoots that I do at the kid's school, and I have been very pleased with it even though it is only an SD camera.  Great camera for capturing family moments.</p> <p>I assist a small organization with small video shoots as well and we purchased a Hi Def Sony HVRA1U which technically is a professional camera, but very low end at about $2000.  It was bought primarially because of the XLR microphone inputs and some of the features that it has.  I have used this for a variety of different events and I like it, but it is a bit heavy if you are going to be using it for a while without a tripod, after about 30 minutes, my hand starts going numb.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-54016 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:44:02 +0000 trobi19 54016@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yep. My capturing device is through USB and my computer is sending the video back to my external Hard drive through USB. My external only has the USB option, so for now I can drive capturing to my C drive, then putting captured video onto my external after. </p> <p>I'm also considering buying a MiniDV camcorder with great quality, mic jack, and analog input so I can digitize my analog video that way also...any suggestions?</p> <p>Also, my system should be fairly capable Intel Dual Core processor 1.8ghz. 2MB ram</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-53920 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:17:45 +0000 SafetyMan 53920@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If your external drive is USB that is probably the issue as you are capturing over USB, processing that, and then sending a video stream back over USB.  Your USB buss is simply overloaded.  As an experiment if you want to try the realtime encoding, try capturing to your "C:" drive (even though it contradicts my advice above) or other internal drive.  If you don't drop frames then find a different way to connect that external hard drive, either firewire or eSATA.</p> <p>By way of comparison, my machine is a 2.8GHz, single core w/ 3.5G ram.  I use my DV camera to digitize analog video and send it into my computer via firewire.  I use an external hard drive dock  (<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071&amp;cm_re=thermaltake-_-17-153-071-_-Product">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071&amp;cm_re=thermaltake-_-17-153-071-_-Product</a> ) connected via eSATA to save and edit my video.  This setup captures HD 1080i 30fps content without dropping frames.  On the same rig, if I try to capture via USB or save to an external USB drive I will drop 3-5 frames every 10 minutes.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-53819 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:13:15 +0000 trobi19 53819@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks for the advice. I'll try that</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-53808 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:40:54 +0000 XTR-91 53808@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Cyberlink PowerDirector has a "non-realtime" capture option, which gives it the ability to capture video meticulously without dropping frames. Your software might offer this feature, which will probably take longer, but would be fully automatic. That's one reason I've never purchased a DV camcorder, due to its nature of streaming video, which I doubt even my 1.66 GHz dual core is capable of handling.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-53805 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:25:08 +0000 trobi19 53805@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'm using an external hardware device that pinnacle provided thats basically a box that takes traditional analog,(yellow video, red/white audio), an S-video, and a firewire input...and then the output is through a usb cable into the computer. So i assume the box is only converting from composite to USB.</p> <p>The captured video is being saved to an external hard drive, rather than my OS drive, and my computer is in pretty good shape as far as handling video.</p> <p>I like the idea of having an external box that will convert analog to digital then send through firewire...just not sure where to look for that.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-53791 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:14:36 +0000 SafetyMan 53791@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> How are you capturing your video into your computer?  Are you using USB or Firewire?  Is the camera digitizing the video or are you using an external box to convert your composite video from the camera to Firewire or USB.</p> <p>In my experience, USB simply does not have enough bandwidth to capture video without dropping frames.  The reason is that the USB buss is shared, so everytime you touch the keyboard, or move the mouse you are taking just a little bit of bandwith away from your video stream.  I had a similar issue and ultimately just started importing my video using Firewire and the issue went away.  Anytime I now need to digitize a VHS or Hi-8 tape, I connect the source to my DV camera, let the DV camera digitize and send to my computer via firewire.  If you don't have  DV camera, there are several external boxes that will convert analog video to digital and send it to your computer via firewire.</p> <p>Another thing to look out for is to save your video to a hard drive that you use only for data.  Encoding the video and saving it on the drive that your operating system is on can cause issues as your drive may not be able to read data to operate the software you are using and write to the hard drive at the same time.</p> <p>The last and final thing is to make sure that your computer is capable of handling the video source.  For best results, you should be operating well above the minimum system requirements of Pinnacle 12</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-53785 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:30:54 +0000 trobi19 53785@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>For years, I have come across the problem of dropping frames when trying to capture video in a good quality from my Hi8 Camcorder. I'm aware that it isn't unusual for that to happen with 8mm/Hi8 capturing, but are there any possible tricks or other free capturing softwares that could help me with this problem? This is by far the most frustrating experience for me when I do my editing. I am currently using Pinnacle Studio 12 ultimate. Thanks.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/transferring-analog-8mm-to-digital#post-52274 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:18:51 +0000 Kemper 52274@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I should note though that my footage looked fine on the original and on the timeline. But once I exported to DVD it developed the shaking. Reversing the Field Dominance didn't effect the timeline but did improve the footage on the exported DVD.</p> <p>Cole</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/transferring-analog-8mm-to-digital#post-52273 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:17:09 +0000 Kemper 52273@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I don't think that Windows Movie Maker has the function but you might need to reverse the fields by selecting "Lower Field First". I don't know how much the videos mean to you to convert properly but you may want to look into some consumer level editing software like Adobe Premiere Elements. It is around $100 and gives you more options (including the field dominance preference) I had the same problem converting and this helped me some.</p> <p> </p> <p>Cole</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/transferring-analog-8mm-to-digital#post-52255 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:27:11 +0000 XTR-91 52255@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The computer's display setting should not affect the quality of capture. Have you checked the stability (if the video displays property) on a TV? This may be a tape degradation or camcorder problem. What codec are you capturing? If the analog capture codec (analog to digital conversion) is AVCHD, then you'll most likely have some sort of "motion-trailing" side affect. The codec for capturing should be DV-AVI for the smoothest and highest quality capture.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/transferring-analog-8mm-to-digital#post-52246 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:52:00 +0000 LizzyC2308 52246@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Actually when I burn to DVD the jerking motion is still there - is there a display setting I should be looking for - or a setting when I am capturing the video?  I am using Windows Movie Maker to capture - I can't get AVS or Nero to capture the composite.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/transferring-analog-8mm-to-digital#post-52205 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:25:36 +0000 XTR-91 52205@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Many players and editors with capture capabilities will have some sort of de-interlacing system which converts to progressive during playback. No changes are actually made to the video, but instead adjusted in a way so that it can be played back on computer. Small bits of color lines appear during playback of MPEG-2 interlaced footage with Windows Media Player (having downloaded the proper audio and video codecs).</p> <p>Make sure the camcorder is connected properly and capture the video as it is. During the capture process, you should also check for capture information and possibly a "drop meter" (indicating the amount of footage getting dropped during capture).</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/transferring-analog-8mm-to-digital#post-52192 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:43:30 +0000 grinner 52192@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Don't let the interlacing on your computer screen trick ya. MOnitor out of an ntsc monitor or even a tv.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/transferring-analog-8mm-to-digital#post-52185 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:57:30 +0000 LizzyC2308 52185@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Actually I notice the "jerking" motion on the video especially if the person recording is walking or moving the camera quickly - it does not show on the analog camera, only on the uploaded video.  any ideas???</p>