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<title>Videomaker Community Forums &#187; Tag: 8mm - Recent Topics</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:04:03 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>Peter Rose on "Analog Video Users Today"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/analog-video-users-today#post-74477</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Peter Rose</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;With about 90,000 members to Videomaker, I am very curious as to how many of us are still using analog camcorders (VHS, VHS-C, S-VHS-C, 8mm, Hi-8, etc.).  I find it hard to believe that all of the Videomaker members are ALL into digital only.  I would like to have feedback from some analog members who still enjoy using this format vs digital (or maybe use both).  If everyone was shooting digital only, then there would be no market for analog tapes.  However, there are many outlets selling lots of analog tapes, including some of the camcorder manufacturers themselves.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Any comments ad feedback, please? Thanks folks.  &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>trobi19 on "Dropping frames with Hi8 Camera"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/dropping-frames-with-hi8-camera#post-53785</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>trobi19</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;For years, I have come across the problem of dropping frames when trying to capture video in a good quality from my Hi8 Camcorder. I'm aware that it isn't unusual for that to happen with 8mm/Hi8 capturing, but are there any possible tricks or other free capturing softwares that could help me with this problem? This is by far the most frustrating experience for me when I do my editing. I am currently using Pinnacle Studio 12 ultimate. Thanks.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>cfulton on "Videomaker Forums FAQ"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/videomaker-forums-faq#post-48088</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cfulton</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;
&#60;strong&#62;How do I read the forums?&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In English, from left to right. (Just kidding.) Everything is broken into categories, that is what comes up first when you access the forums.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Scroll down a bit and you'll see the most current posts from all of the forums. You can read anything that looks interesting by clicking on it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You can also search the forums. There is a search box on the right-hand side of the window.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;Why would I need an account?&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
You need an account if you want to create new posts or respond to existing posts.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;But I just wanted to ask what kind of camcorder to get.&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Please read &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.videomaker.com/article/14222/&#34;&#62;&#60;em&#62;10 Points to Consider when Purchasing a New Camcorder&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/a&#62; first. It may answer all of your questions before you need to ask that question here.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;How do I post?&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
To create a post, find the topic list. There will be an &#34;Add New &#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#34; button. Give your post a title and type the body of your post. You may also post images and add videos to your posts. Pick ONE section for the post to appear in, and then click Send Post. Be patient in waiting for a reply.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you need some guidelines for posting questions, we recommend the document &#60;em&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html&#34;&#62;How to Ask Questions the Smart Way&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/em&#62;.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;How do I reply to an existing post?&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
When you are reading an existing post, a reply box will appear under the last reply to the post (or the post itself, if it has no replies yet.) Type in your reply and click Send Post.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;What are things that will not earn happy points with the moderators?&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Everyone around here is generally pretty easygoing, and we'd prefer to keep it an easygoing place that is encouraging and helpful to all participants. And remember the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you've got an axe to grind with someone, take it somewhere else. No one else wants to hear it. If the only thing you intend to do here is cause grief, don't expect to be welcome here for long.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is no need to cross-post. If you've got a question that could possibly be addressed in several forums, post it to the one that is most relevant in your opinion. The reason we don't like cross-posts is because responders to one thread may not see ideas posted in other threads (and it also buries other's posts unnecessarily.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Do not type in ALL CAPS. Like most other places on the internet, it's interpreted as shouting and as such is considered rude.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As the forums are pretty easygoing (and because a sizeable portion of forum participants are probably writing, shooting, editing, authoring discs, setting up encoding jobs, taking care of kids, cooking, or sleeping at any given time that they're not on the forum), this has historically been considered a slow forum. So be patient. Don't come back in three hours to complain that no one loves you--it might make you seem like an ingrate. If you haven't seen an answer to your question in three days or so, try elaborating a bit on your question--that might give someone who might have the answer you need the missing piece of information they needed. If you're posting because you're having trouble with something, keep trying different things, and tell us what you've tried and what the results were. See the above-referenced &#60;em&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html&#34;&#62;How to Ask Questions the Smart Way&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/em&#62; document.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In general, we recommend sticking to the Netiquette guidelines as specified in &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt?number=1855&#34;&#62;RFC 1855&#60;/a&#62;. (This is an historically interesting document that is partially outdated. Chapter 3 is most relevant here, but do have a gander at the entire document.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Generally speaking, if a thread has been inactive for longer than three months, adding a new post to the thread is frowned upon.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;What will get me blocked outright?&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
We have no patience for spam or astroturf (i.e. product guides planted by product manufacturers or their affiliates). You will be blocked immediately upon discovery of such posts. We are accumulating IP addresses, and you may find yourself blocked as a result of participating in this type of activity.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;What about contacting someone off the forums?&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
You can if you'd like; however, if you have a relevant question, it is best left to the forums, so everyone can benefit. Your problem may be the same problem someone else is having, so that discussion may help them as well.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>nate3po on "Problem importing Hi-8 tape with Digital 8 Camcorder"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/problem-importing-hi-8-tape-with-digital-8-camcorder#post-38358</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>nate3po</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Â I'm going to leave certain details out of my story for the sake of keeping it short.Â  Feel free to ask questions if you need me to fill something in.Â  I have videos on 8mm and Hi-8 tapes that a I import via firewire from a Digital 8 camcorder.Â  For those who don't know you can import analog video recorded on 8mm and Hi-8 with certain digital 8 cameras through firewire and it will automatically convert it to a DV file on your computer.Â  I'm in the US so my video is NTSC.Â  Now we know that NTSC interlaced video displays the lower field and then the upper field.Â  So if we numbered each field with field 1, field 2, field 3, field 4 and so on then the odd number would refer to the lower field and the even number to the upper field.Â  Field 1 and field 2 would combine to make frame 1.Â  So here's my problem.Â  Sometimes the video caputure seemed to combine the ending field of one scene with the beginning field of the next scene into one frame.Â  But this did not always happen when capturing the same piece of video.Â  I couldn't understand why sometimes I had this problem and sometimes I didn't, I decided to compare the problem clips with the none problem clips by analyzing each field in an editing program.Â  I figured out a way to isolate each field so that the field that I did not want to see was replaced with black.Â  If you want to know how I did this then ask.Â  Anyway, what I discovered was that the difference between the two videos was that the fields were some one reversed.Â  Lower field had been caputred as upper field and upper field capture as lower field.Â  So essentially the video should have been captured as Frame 1 [field 1(lower) field 2(upper)], Frame 2 [field 3(lower) field 4 (upper)] was actually captured as Frame 1[field 2(lower) field 3(upper)], Frame 2[field 4(lower), field 5(upper)].Â  It was like some how the first lower field was lost so the computer took the second upper field and recorded it as if it were the first lower field.Â  I hope this is making sense so far.Â  I don't always explains things well.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Before anyone says that it might have to do with the settings in my capture program, I should remind you that no settings were change between the correct recording the and problem recordings. Â  In anycase, the first thing I want to know is if anyone has ever encountered this problem when try to capture 8mm tapes to a DV file by using a Digital 8 camcorder.Â  I'm fairly certain that I have accurately determined the nature of the problem but have to admit it sounds slightly weird that an upper field could be confused with a lower field and vice versa by a camcorder.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have noticed that this problem often occurs when I recorded the video with the following mistakes.Â  Sometimes you want review what you've recorded, but before the days of the &#34;end search&#34; button you tried to reposition the tape back the right place manually.Â  Of course what happens i that you don't necessarily position the tape at the right point and you get part of the tape with no signal on it.Â  I find that recordings that a preceded by this area of tape with no signal, I end up with the problem outlined above.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But I think I've found a fix for files captured with this problem.Â  Adobe Premiere Pro has two functions called reverse field dominance and interlace consecutive frames.Â  I discovered that when you reverse field dominance and render the file then take the rendered file and interlace consecutive frames you fix the problem.Â  You just end up losing the first frame of the recording.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Diagram: each number represents the field number.Â  Each column represents a frame and&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;correct file&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2 4 6
&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1 3 5
&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Problem file (noticed how field one is missing and now field two takes field one's place and field three takes field two's place and so on)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;3 5 7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2 4 6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Reverse field dominance the problem file(remember with NTSC video the lower field is place first, so even though the fields that should be lower are lower and the fields that should be upper are upper, they will play in the wrong sequence :3,2,5,4,7,6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2 4 6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;3 5 7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Interlace consecutive frames for the file that has undergone reverse field dominance&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;4 6 8&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;3 5 7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What interlace consecutive frames did was take the upper field from each frame and shift them back so that they combined with the lower field of the previous frame.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>shippocaio on "Tape 8mm?"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/tape-8mm#post-37434</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shippocaio</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Â Hey guys!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My parents (yes! I am a teenager!) had a 8mm camcorder (Many, many years ago!) Â  and now they have a lot of 8mm tapes with precious and adorable memories... So, as i am theÂ  Â´Â´video makerÂ´Â´ of the family, (i think that) is my responsability to recover these memories!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have a HP Media Center m8034n with aÂ  Â´Â´ yellow, white, and red Â´Â´ (i donÂ´t remember the name of that cable) input, so I was thinking that maybe i could use this input to somehow transfer the videos in 8mm to my PC and then, after some editing, burn a DVD with the videos!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just a small detail: I donÂ´t have any idea how to do this,Â  and i need help from you guys!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;PLEASE, i really donÂ´t want my family spending hundreds and hundreds of bucks only to put some old videos intoÂ  DVDs....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, if yous guys have any info about this, i would be really thankful!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;P.S.: My parents still have the 8mm camcorder (i am shocked, too), so if i need the camcorder to transfer the video to my PC, itÂ´s ok.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;P.S.S: I really dont know how to use the Â´Â´yellow, white, and redÂ´Â´ input, so if you guys know how to use it (like to connect a DVD player to my PC, or something like that...) i would be really glad if you could teach me how to use it...i dont have a software or anything like it, but i do have the Windows Media Center (of windows vista) if it can help...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I know that i probally wrote a lot of idiot things, but i am really new into this Â´Â´movie makingÂ´Â´ thing....Â Â Â Â  :)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks for all the help,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Â Caio&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>oc6088 on "8mm to dvd questions"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/8mm-to-dvd-questions#post-36320</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>oc6088</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Â I am not really sure where this question belongs, but I will try anyhow.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am trying to transfer from old 8mm film using an old Canon S400 variable speed projector.Â  I am able to get rid of a lot of the flicker, but it seems like I am losing a lot of color and detail of the film.Â  The detail is there when I project onto my screen, but when I tape onto my camcorder..it loses a lot.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Any advice on shutter speed, how far away to put the camera.. or anything, anything would be helpful!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've already gone through one projector belt (which seems to be the same belt size as a water pump which I found at my local retail discount store..go figure) and a bulb.Â  I don't have much hair left..I am about to give up.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Â I am using a Canon ZR60 camcorder.Â  Is that the problem?&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Binnz7dw on "8mm film to computer.. help?"</title>
<link>http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/8mm-film-to-computer-help#post-34482</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Binnz7dw</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Does anyone know where I can find the equipment to transfer the small 8mm films to my computer to edit to DVD?&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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