http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » User Favorites: 4ca en Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:29:57 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-52002 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:45:12 +0000 skullcandy 52002@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>google "SDCOPY" it will rename your files and save you a lot of trouble.</p> <p>I have a Canon fs100....</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-51262 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:54:53 +0000 futball8 51262@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Just so everyone knows - Canon uses the .MOD format as well, in it's FS line of camcorders. I have been using two Canon FS100's and several FS200's for a little under a year.</p> <p>I edit with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3. All I have to do is simply rename the .MOD files as .MPG and then import into PP CS3. It takes a small amount of time to conform the audio, but no file conversion is necessary. It's a pretty slick workflow and I've never encountered any problems editing them this way.</p> <p>When editing these files on a MAC with FCP, I've not found any way to get around converting them to DV. I use VisualHub for this purpose - it works fine, but takes a long time to convert. FCP will import .MOD files renamed as .MPG, but you will not have the audio, just video. Have'nt found a way around that yet for FCP. If anyone knows a way, please share!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-51251 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:28:49 +0000 macksgarage 51251@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have been working with an Everio HD camcorder for some time, and while renaming works some of the time, I have found that the files themselves seem to have certain inconsistencies which cause certain applications to crash or behave oddly when working with these files.  I use Premiere CS3 and Premiere Elements.  While Elements 'supports' these files, it is markedly unstable and frequently crashes while using the files, though the application is otherwise reliable.  The solution I have arrived at is to repair the container using ffmpeg.</p> <p>If you are not familiar with ffmpeg, it may be a bit of a bear to learn, but it's not only useful for this, but functions as a video swiss army knife useful for splicing, muxing/demuxing, and rendering just about any format into just about any other format.</p> <p>ffmpeg is an open source project from the linux world, but it has been ported and is supported on windows.  Fetch it <a href="http://ffmpeg.arrozcru.org/">here</a> and place it somewhere handy on your system.  </p> <p>To rewrite the container into a nice, standards compliant .mpg file that doesn't make applications die, WITHOUT rerendering video or audio itself, I use this command.</p> <p>ffmpeg -i INFILE.MOD  -acodec copy - vcodec copy OUTFILE.mpg</p> <p>This not only renames the file, but actually rebuilds the container around unmodified video and audio data, yielding a file which works much more stably with Adobe applications, and presumably others as well, as ffmpeg's open source development goals result in very standards compliant files. </p> <p>I have a short script to handle a batch of files using the bash command interpreter from UNIXy type systems, which can be installed on windows via the cygwin project.  Perhaps others in this forum with some knowledge of DOS type scripting can create a similar script for the standard cmd.exe for windows.</p> <p>The short and simple bash script goes like this:</p> <p>for x in *.MOD; do ffmpeg -i $x -acodec copy -vcodec copy $x.mpg; done</p> <p>Maybe this helps someone as much as it helps me.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-49189 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:14:52 +0000 XTR-91 49189@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>.MOD and .TOD files are simply alternate file extensions for naming MPEG-2 (DVD codec) video. I highly doubt JVC owns this format, either. A file copied and renamed to .mpg is still an MPEG-2 file. This method works well if the editing software supports MPEG-2, but doesn't recognize these special extensions.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-49183 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:19:09 +0000 beaglebuddy 49183@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The software that comes with the JVC Everio is horrible.  When I say horrible, I mean it may very well be the worst software applicatio I've ever used.  Its very, very slow, and has some serious bugs in it.  </p> <p>I recently purchased the Roxio Creator 2009 software for about 75$.  Its software is pretty good, and it supports the mod file format.  So you don't need to do any conversions to avi or mpeg.   My 15 day return period had expired, so I couldn't return the camera.  But since I've started using the roxio Creator software, everything has been fine.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-and-voice-dont-match#post-41796 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:52:23 +0000 4ca 41796@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>LOL thats funny but so true!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-and-voice-dont-match#post-41781 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:50:26 +0000 NewBirthProductions 41781@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>well, if your video is a old Bruce Lee ku-fu movie then what's the problem it's suspose to be like that.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41772 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:30:01 +0000 EarlC 41772@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> You make me blush :-)</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41771 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:31:04 +0000 4ca 41771@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Wow thanks EarlC. You said 3 great things there. 1 To copy the files..your right, thats the ticket and thats what I should be doing. Another was to have a dedicated hard drive for the project that you are working on! yeah thats the ticket again.. and third, to put all files back where they belong after your finished with a project.  This sounds so simple but I really had stuff everywhere on my computer for my last project...that by the way...the Company wants to change just about everything!!!!! God! But anyways Earl C thanks a ton for your help. I will for sure set up a mock prokject tonite and try this out!</p> <p>Thanks buddy!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41769 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:33:52 +0000 EarlC 41769@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I am by no means the king of organization, but this is how I do things.</p> <p>For commercial projects I usually set up a file folder named and sometimes dated. Inside that file are subfiles for photos, Audio, primary, B-Cam, misc. (something like that) Over time I have now conditioned myself to religiously place incoming resources into these files, or create another folder that defines something I haven't thought of at the moment, but always in the primary folder for that project.</p> <p>I also have a Shared Resources file on a hard drive that contains NOTHING else. In this file are related folders for Photos, Audio, Repurposed footage, etc. It has become my "go to" folder for things I remember or think I have and narrows the search for them when they are needed to enhance an ongoing project. I will copy, not transfer, these files or the portions thereof into my primary project folder for that project. Redundant, but also keeps my shared resources intact and I don't wind up with something somewhere else and not being able to locate it in a rush.</p> <p>It was once muc more expensive, but continues to become less, I also have oodles of firewire hard drives and usually always dedicate ONE hard drive to ONE project. Thus, over time, as I am accumulating materials and resources, I get them where I want them. I also have developed a habit of when I do identify something from whatever (photo, video, audio, etc.) that I THINK might be a future "shared resource" item, I immediately isolate this and place a copy in my dedicated hard drive.</p> <p>This is NOT to say that even though done "religiously" I do not sometimes get deep into a rush project and totally abandon my well-honed working habits. I cringe when that happens, knowing I am screwing with my system for organization, but deadlines sometimes take the priority. I try, as often as possible, when done with such a project to go through the resources and place them back where they belong, or re-assess them and act accordingly. This is often the case when I don't have back-to-back rush projects and am taking a relaxing breather and a cup of coffee or whatever.</p> <p>Hope this helps.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-and-voice-dont-match#post-41760 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:48:28 +0000 Coreece 41760@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Try rendering or exporting a segment to see if the problem is still there...If it is, than you'll probably have to recapture.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-and-voice-dont-match#post-41759 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:44:10 +0000 Coreece 41759@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If the origianl file looks ok, you probably don't have a problem.</p> <p>First check to see if your audio matches the project settings....if you audio is 48 kHz, than you'll want to make sure your project settings are 48kHz instead of 44.1 kHz.</p> <p>Also, it is best to use a video format that is native to the NLE....If you are using premiere on a PC than the ideal format would be an AVI using the built in Microsoft DV codec. (this is typically automatic, but there are some exceptions)</p> <p>If the format of your video is not native, it will not play smoothly until you render it.  If you render it than add an effect, you'll have to render it again to play properly.</p> <p>Another possibility is that your computer may just not be that powerful.</p> <p>I could be more specific if I had the following info:</p> <p>-Operating system?</p> <p>-Software (NLE)?</p> <p>-current format of video?</p> <p>-how did you get the video from your camera to the computer?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41758 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:44:15 +0000 4ca 41758@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi EarlC, yeah a few files do settel into folders but most do not! Its really strange! But let me ask you, when you work on a project and lets say all your media does not come from the same source, like some from your camera others from a disk that has been pre recorded and yet some more from internet... how do you organize all of that so thats its not all over your computer and doesn't get all mixed up with 3 or 4 projects that you have on the go?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-and-voice-dont-match#post-41748 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:24:58 +0000 4ca 41748@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>No its only after the problem appears. The original clip is fine but the minute I drop it into the timeline it goes out of sync! Strange isnèt it?</p> <p>Any thoughts?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41747 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:23:38 +0000 EarlC 41747@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Sorry, I don't know your program, but will SOME files settle friendly in a single folder, while others do not? Can you first move all the compatible files, then narrow it down to the problem files?</p> <p>At least, it seems, at that point you could trouble shoot and identify the problems with the specific files. If all of them are acting badly, is there somewhere within your program that allows you to select a file, attempt to process it, then the program will give you an error notice of some sort?</p> <p>I know this is frustrating on ANY program and with ANY batch of files in which it occurs, but there is often some kind of workaround. I have also, sadly, had to pretty much redo everything when it seemed something had contaminated my files, making them imcompatible and uncooperative.</p> <p>I have also settled for dubbing off the clips, or whatever resources, making and renaming their files onto a different hard drive, in separate files, then attempting to combine those files into one working file. PhotoShop and Pagemaker have done this to me occasionally for no apparent rhyme or reason.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41746 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:56:52 +0000 4ca 41746@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I am using cyberlink version 7. What do you think of that problem? any help would be great! Thanks</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41712 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:52:56 +0000 bmills 41712@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> What editing program are you using?  With FCP you can reconnect "missing" files (once you move them to 1 location)...</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-and-voice-dont-match#post-41711 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:38:43 +0000 bmills 41711@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> it captured like that or after you edited it an exported it the audio was out of sync?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/getting-organized#post-41693 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:42:00 +0000 4ca 41693@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Another thing... I have completed a 10 minute documentary and I have clips on my desktop, in my documents, in my videos, on external drive and a bunch of other places scattered on my computer. If I try to put them all together in one folder I get an error when I start the editing program. Is there any way to organize all of the clips under one folder or whatever instead of having them all over the place until the project is actually complete?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/video-and-voice-dont-match#post-41688 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:01:41 +0000 4ca 41688@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Ok so I finish my documentary, produce it... and then when I replay the voice doesn't match the lip movement! I was filmming with a camcorder so I did not have a sepearte audio track for the voices! I dont understand whats going on! Does anyone have an explaination for this?</p> <p>Thanks for your help.</p> <p>Rob</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-37443 Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:44:47 +0000 Cralis 37443@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>To add to that - the JVC GZ-HD5/7 save as .TOD</p> <p>That's a different format to .MOD? Seems you can rename to .MPG and it works, but.. not sure if that#s the way to go.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-37304 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:11:19 +0000 sixxia 37304@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I still have a problem. =]</p> <p>I use Sony Vegas 8, and I'm not getting any audio with the files. The JVC software recognizes the audio and video, obviously, but Vegas will not. Any help?</p> <p> Thanks,</p> <p>Tom.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-33733 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:26:48 +0000 redfox435cat 33733@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>couple things.</p> <p>firmware thanks for the batch file. kicks butt. but the main problem persists. wide screen video doesn't display correctly, it's still stretched to 4:3</p> <p>In adobe premier 3 the mod file work great. the widescreen problem is fixed by.</p> <p>after importing the files right click on the track or group of tracks select interpret footage, SELCT conform to: NTSC 16:9(1.2). using premeir to make dvds and dvd quality video is great. The problem come when trying to render down to internet streaming quality. Maybe someone has a solution but for me the progressive scanning used by the mod isn't rendered right and the horizontal lines are separated, very unwatchable.</p> <p>For internet streaming video I just use the power director that came with it which you've probably found to have much to be desired as far as usability like sound edit features but file are read correctly and low quality video comes out just fine</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-31264 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:37:47 +0000 firmware 31264@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ The MOD files that the JVC camera produces are really just MPEG-2 files. You can make a batch file to do a mass convert of MOD files to what they really are, MPG files, by just renaming the extension.<br /> <br /> Copy &amp; paste the folllowing into NOTEPAD and save as &quot;jvc_rename.bat&quot;<br /> <br /> <p><code><br /> REM JVC Mass convert script <br /> REM converts all MOD files in a folder to MPG files...<br /> @ECHO off<br /> cls<br /> ECHO.<br /> ECHO - <br /> ECHO - Renames MOD Files from JVC Camera to MPG<br /> ECHO -<br /> SET prefix=mov1<br /> SET /P prefix=Type a rename prefix. &#91;mov1&#93; <br /> REN *.mod %prefix%*.mpg<br /> SET choice=y<br /> SET /P choice=Do you want to erase the MOI files? &#91;y/n&#93;<br /> IF %choice%==y del *.moi<br /> pause<br /> </code></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-31048 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:14:10 +0000 mmontgomery 31048@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Other companies do use proprietary formats, and the success of that format depends upon many different factors, but especially how widely popular that format becomes. I get the sense that .MOD has more to gain in this area before we see it become more widely adopted.<br /> <br /> In the case of .MOD, you are actually getting a MPEG-2 file. The way video files work is that there is a codec (<strong>CO</strong>mpressor/<strong>DEC</strong>ompressor) algorithm and a file wrapper (or extension). A JVC .MOD file is a MPEG-2 encoded file, with a .MOD extension. You're faced with two challenges, first the .MOD file type is only recognized and support by a few applications. I think we covered some of those already. The interesting thing about wrappers and extensions is that they can be dealt with in a variety of ways. Sometimes all you need to do to convert the video file to a compatible video file is to change the extension. In the case of .MOD files that's not enough. The .MOD wrapper apparently does a few more things than just bare a unique extension name. It requires a slightly more complicated method to convert that file. That is why there is supplied software and that certain third party applications have .MOD support.<br /> <br /> The second problem you're experiencing is with the MPEG-2 format. It's not an edit friendly format to begin with. Many camcorders do use MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 codecs, and those file types still need to be converted or have additional support added to the software in order to accurately edit the file.<br /> <br /> To answer you question regarding whether or not you should return you camcorder, I think the answer is yes and no. Before you run back to the store, consider that no matter what kind of camcorder you buy, there will have to be some level of post-production upkeep. Easily, with a modern computer supporting a FireWire connection, the most edit-able video format is Mini DV (or DV25). But, with Mini DV, you do have to take time to capture you footage from tape to computer in order to edit. This could take as long as converting you .MOD files and in some cases maybe even longer. So... I encourage to try to find a post-production work flow that is most efficient using your current camcorder. I tried to load up Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0 at the office and found out that you can't install this software on a system with Premiere Pro installed... so I've got to find a machine here that doesn't have Premiere Pro (these are the kinds of problem you'd want to have, I'm sure) before running some tests. Furthermore, our contact at JVC as informed us that Pinnacle Studio 10 and the most current version, Studio 11 do support .MOD files. So maybe we can test that out too.<br /> <br /> Mark<br /> <br /> Mark http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-31046 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:43:58 +0000 ElfQrin 31046@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Do other companies have there own flormat? Why couldn't they just use like MPEG or .avi?<br /> <br /> Is it a good flormat to record in or will it be obsolute later in the future...like should I return the camcoreder?<br /> <br /> Also do video cameras for $500--does the video get pixelated when you enlarge the video to full screen. Mine has been and I was wondering if the editing (Studio) is making the quality lower. I know I am recording in the highest level of detail!<br /> <br /> Thanks again! http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-31035 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:41:36 +0000 mmontgomery 31035@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Since it's JVC's own format, it would be unlikely that anyone but JVC will use it in the future. I suspect that more JVC Everio camcorders to come in the future will use .MOD. However, JVC has recently focused new energies on their camcorder line. I wouldn't be surprised if they're taking a new look at their camcorders altogether. But, we won't know for sure until the first week of January at CES 2008, when camcorder manufacturers announce their new camcorders.<br /> <br /> Mark http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-31034 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:32:50 +0000 ElfQrin 31034@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Will more camcorders use the .mod flormat in the future? http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-31021 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:28:25 +0000 mmontgomery 31021@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Danny,<br /> <br /> I've been doing some tinkering at our office with a JVC GZ-MG555 Everio camcorder. Your file format issues with the .MOD file types are not unusual. The .MOD file format is, obviously, a proprietary file format that JVC has engineered to help their camcorders function with their Direct to Disk/Share Station product. But, the challenge, as you have found, is to use the native .MOD files for video editing. As JVC has mentioned, the supplied software (Cyberlink PowerDirector 5, PowerCinema and PowerProducer) will do all your basic functions, including convert your .MOD files to DV-AVI files which are compatible in nearly all video editing software packages. I've tried this several times and it has worked. However, it's a rather ridiculous process in that you need to do each clip one at a time, or, throw all your clips in the timeline and render out one very long DV-AVI file. Either way, this is not ideal. <br /> <br /> The ideal solution to the problem would be the ability to batch render these .MOD files to DV-AVI files by simply selecting the clips you want encoded and pressing a &quot;start&quot; button. To that effect, the computer would individually convert each file. In the end you'd have a bunch of completely edit-able video clips. Unfortunately, that software functionality is not included with the software from JVC/Cyberlink. And to my knowledge, there is not a software package that can do this simple batch conversion with .MOD files as of yet. I suspect that unless JVC makes this happen, software companies probably won't do it themselves, as there is little reward in it for them. <br /> <br /> With that said, all hope is not lost. Some video editing software makers have included .MOD file format support. I know that Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0 ($99) has .MOD support. I'll be running a few tests later to see just how that support works, but from what I gather it does exactly what I mentioned the batch conversion would theoretically do, but it does it sort of behind the scenes. I'll let you know how that goes. We're also waiting to hear back from our contacts at JVC to get a more current list of third party video editing software that supports .MOD. So stay tuned.<br /> <br /> An interesting side note to my tests with the GZ-MG555 camcorder, is that I used the dock that is supplied with the camcorder. On the dock there's a FireWire port. I plugged it in and used Cyberlink PowerDirector 5 to capture a AVI file, completely avoiding the .MOD file format. Unfortunately, this is counter productive, as the true benefit of having a hard drive camcorder is to avoid capturing altogether. But, it's an interesting alternative. Moreover, the DV files I capture were less than ideal, as the front and tails of the DV clip were about a half second of the .MOD file stalled. I think this is a natural response to the delay in the long GOP of MPEG-2 converting to DV.<br /> <br /> For the sake of anyone looking into a camcorder purchase in the future, the lesson learned here is that there are many great attributes to hard drive camcorders and even DVD camcorders, yet anything that captures to MPEG-2 or MPEG-4 (especially the AVCHD flavor of MPEG-4) will be significantly more difficult to edit straight out of the camcorder. This has been true since we saw the first DVD camcorder come to market. Over time there has been additional support built into video editing software that will allow you to edit this stuff, but at the very least, the software needs to convert the files to a more edit friendly format. This is also true of the more common HDV video format. Anyone who edits HDV will tell you that native HDV editing is a little clunky. Video editing software have since authored Intermediate Codecs for HDV that will make the editing experience more friendly--this again is converting file types, usually in the case of HDV, on the fly as you capture your footage.<br /> <br /> The good news is that I think you'll be able to find a post-production work flow that's much more what you expected when you got your camcorder. We're going to continue looking into that, but I hope this gives you some perspective to what the heck is going on.<br /> <br /> Mark http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/is-the-mod-format-new-for-capturing-video#post-31018 Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:55:37 +0000 ElfQrin 31018@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Will the .MOD flormat for capturing video be &quot;mainstreem&quot; soon, it is used with only JVC Everio camcorders but I was wondering if it is a good flormat to use and capture video in or will no one use it in the next few years.<br /> <br /> I am debating weather to keep or return my JVC Harddrive camcorder (Everio 30GB Hard Drive with 34x optical zoom)<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> Daniel