http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community Forums » Forum: Panasonic Other Professional Camcorders - Recent Posts en Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:49:18 +0000 http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74799 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:54:01 +0000 Bill Bruner 74799@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Ted - sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. "Camcorder test" is actually slashcam - a well-respected German camcorder review site.  I trust them as much or more than camcorderinfo.</p> <p>Cheers,</p> <p> </p> <p>Bill</p> <p><a href="http://hybridcamerarevolution.blogspot.com">Hybrid Camera Revolution</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74730 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:48:41 +0000 gldnears 74730@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Your recording device looks to be able to handle " HDV " which is a moderately ( as opposed to " mildly " ) compressed format. Below is from Wikipedia:</p> <p>&lt;span class="mw" id="Video_and_audio_coding"&gt;&gt; Video and audio coding&lt;/span&gt;</p> <p>&gt; HDV video and audio are encoded in digital form, using <a href="/wiki/Lossy_compression" title="Lossy compression">lossy compression</a>. Video is encoded with the <a href="/wiki/H.262/MPEG-2_Part_2" title="H.262/MPEG-2 Part 2">H.262/MPEG-2 Part 2</a> compression scheme, using 8-bit chroma and luma samples with 4:2:0 <a href="/wiki/Chroma_subsampling" title="Chroma subsampling">chroma subsampling</a>. Stereo audio is encoded with the <a href="/wiki/MPEG-1_Layer_2" title="MPEG-1 Layer 2">MPEG-1 Layer 2</a> compression scheme. The compressed audio and video are <a href="/wiki/Multiplexing" title="Multiplexing">multiplexed</a> into a <a href="/wiki/MPEG-2_transport_stream" title="MPEG-2 transport stream">MPEG-2 transport stream</a>, which is typically recorded onto magnetic tape, but can also be stored in a <a href="/wiki/Computer_file" title="Computer file">computer file</a>.</p> <p>&gt; The data rate for both the audio and video is constant and is roughly the same as DV data rate. The relatively low video data rate can cause <em>bit rate starvation</em> in scenes that have lots of fine detail, rapid movement or other complex activity like flashing lights, and may result in visible <a href="/wiki/Compression_artifact" title="Compression artifact">artifacts</a>, such as <a href="/wiki/Macroblock#Macroblocking" title="Macroblock">blockiness</a> and blurring. In contrast to the video, HDV audio bitrate is relatively generous. At the coded bitrate of 384kbit/s, MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio is regarded as <em>perceptually lossless</em>.</p> <p>Your recorder device would be more applicable to Sony, Canon, or JVC camcorders. Panasonic does make some cameras lesser to the HVX200A and HPX170 which use CMOS sensor chips and more data compression which appeals to many because of the greater amount of recording time on ( slower ) compact flash cards.</p> <p>Rick Crampton</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74726 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:19:26 +0000 efiebke 74726@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>To be honest, I get a bit confused with the different codecs that are used by the different video cameras and video editing programs.</p> <p>Here's a here a web-link to the FS-H200PRO that provides useful information about this device:</p> <p><a href="http://www.focusinfo.com/fsh200pro.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.focusinfo.com/fsh200pro.asp</a></p> <p>It seems to be able to record less compressed video data, but it's hard for me to tell.  Just exactly HOW compressed the video data is beyond my understanding. Hope this link helps provides clarification to this device's capabilities.</p> <p>Ted</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74720 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:40:21 +0000 gldnears 74720@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>" . .   the FS-H200Pro (the external recording device) uses a Compact Flash card for its storage media. "</p> <p>This suggests to me that your FS-H200PRO will only work with more highly compressed video streams than the HVX200A. One of the reasons I chose the HVX was to avoid the higher video compressions such as AVCHD which requires more computer horsepower for editing or necessitates converting your files after ingest into a friendlier format. Adobe Premier Pro NLE software handles most native video files w/o having to convert them.</p> <p> </p> <p>Rick Crampton</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74702 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:05:14 +0000 efiebke 74702@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Bill Bruner -</p> <p>Just checked out that "camcorder-test" web site.  It seems like it would be very helpful in making out my choice of cameras.  According to this web site, the XF100 seems to do better in low light.  How trust-worthy is this web site and its comparisons?</p> <p>Ted</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74701 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:57:18 +0000 efiebke 74701@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>So many choices. . . </p> <p>The thing about purchasing a camera with a firewire port is that I already have a device capable of recording video content (that connect to the firewire port).  This helps me during the initial investment.  No need to purchase anything except the camera until I have more $$$$ to buy other recording media.  EXCEPT. . . the FS-H200Pro (the external recording device) uses a Compact Flash card for its storage media.  This make purchasing a XF100 a serious option.</p> <p>Choices, choices. . . . </p> <p>Thank you Bill Bruner and  robGRUAERT for your very thoughtful input.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74686 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:48:44 +0000 Bill Bruner 74686@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Ted - since you indicated that you were also open to Canon, let me suggest the <a href="http://www.adorama.com/CAXF100.html?kbid=66297">XF100</a> rather than the <a href="http://www.adorama.com/PCAGHPX170N.html?kbid=66297">HPX170</a>.  CF cards instead of P2 (a little less expensive), and much better in low light</p> <p>No HD-SDI and no Firewire, though.</p> <p>Good side-by-side comparison on Slashcam here: <a href="http://camcorder-test.slashcam.com/compare-what-i-cmp-u-cmd-i-view-u-mode-i-docompare-u-lang-i-en-u-id-i-80-y-180-u-name-i-Canon%20XF100-u-bname-i-Panasonic%20AG-HPX170-u-cmd-i-vergleich.html">http://camcorder-test.slashcam.com/compare-what-i-cmp-u-cmd-i-view-u-mode-i-docompare-u-lang-i-en-u-id-i-80-y-180-u-name-i-Canon%20XF100-u-bname-i-Panasonic%20AG-HPX170-u-cmd-i-vergleich.html</a></p> <p>Hope this is helpful,</p> <p>Bill</p> <p><a href="http://hybridcamerarevolution.blogspot.com">Hybrid Camera Revolution</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74642 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:15:42 +0000 robGRAUERT 74642@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>One of those Firestore devices can be used to record video from the Firewire connection (i think).</p> <p>Personally, I would go with the HPX170. If you go on a shoot and are recording SD because your other cameras are SD, just record SD to the P2 cards. The HPX170 also has HD-SDI output. So if you want REALLY nice HD (or even SD), connect something like the Nano Flash or AJA Ki Pro Mini to bypass in-camera compression.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/p2-log-transfer-issues-using-fcp-7#post-74616 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:50:53 +0000 aburke3 74616@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>chandler,</p> <p> </p> <p>I've used this stuff for a while. I had this happen once in the last 6 years or so. Look up/google "repair lastclip.txt" . That's what saved me.</p> <p> </p> <p>Also for future reference, it's a really good idea not to trash the original memory card structure (on any brand/make/model) before you've sucessfully ingested the footage. And don't worry-- it's difficult even to get some Pros to remember this :)</p> <p> </p> <p>-Andrew</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74600 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:04:23 +0000 efiebke 74600@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thank you, Mr. Crampton, for your very thoughtful and informative reply. :)</p> <p>Ted</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74599 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:42:53 +0000 gldnears 74599@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>" . . .  I purchased a new FS-H200 Pro (made by Focus Enhancements) video recording device.  It cost about $900.  The FS-H200 Pro can be used to record both SD and HD via the Firewire Port.  I wonder if it would work with the HVX200A???  Any ideas on this?? "</p> <p>I don't know anything about said device. Max resolution on the HVX creates a 100mb stream. I seem to recall something being said in the manual about being able to record directly via Firewire . . . not sure.</p> <p>" . . .  If I remember correctly, the HVX200A has two P2 slots.  If so, can it successfully record on two 64 GB P2 cards without having to switch out any of the cards??? "</p> <p>Yes, given that a pair of clean, formatted P-2 cards are inserted into the camera, it will fill one card and then automatically switch to the other.</p> <p> Rick Crampton</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74585 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:31:28 +0000 efiebke 74585@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I was thinking about purchasing a used HVX200A on eBay.  (I purchased my DVX100B from a reputable eBay seller and would not hesitate to purchase another one from his eBay store.).  Used, they're going for around $2800, many with only a few dozen hours used on the heads.  This leaves me with the financial investment in recording media.  A couple of years ago (when I purchased the DVX100B), I purchased a new FS-H200 Pro (made by Focus Enhancements) video recording device.  It cost about $900.  The FS-H200 Pro can be used to record both SD and HD via the Firewire Port.  I wonder if it would work with the HVX200A???  Any ideas on this??</p> <p>If not. . . I see that BHPhotovideo has 64 GB P2 cards for sale for around $600 each.  They're not cheap.  However, I tend to record greater than 1 hour educational in-services (where I work) and need the extra GBs for the longer recording time.  If I remember correctly, the HVX200A has two P2 slots.  If so, can it successfully record on two 64 GB P2 cards without having to switch out any of the cards??? (This should give me roughly 2 hour of uninterrupted recording time in HD. Yes? No?)</p> <p>Thank you for your very thoughtful and informative reply, Rick. :)</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74582 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:07:38 +0000 gldnears 74582@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>" So. . . for anyone who has used the HVX200A camera, how do you like it?  Please share any experience you have regarding its strengths and weaknesses. "</p> <p>Four years ago I struggled with the choice bewteen the DVX-100B and the HVX-200A. At that time I reasoned that HiDef was too much for me and I bought the DVX which is a very nice camera. More recently I felt the need for a second camera. After much soul searching I decided that the HVX would be a good choice in that it also could shoot standard def, and to DV tape. One of the attractions for the HVX was the " closeout " price of $ 3000!! Many folks feel the cost of P-2 cards is prohibitive ( necessary to shoot HiDef ) and prefer to go AVCHD ( much higher compression than the HVX ) with other cameras using cheaper memory cards. I have a perhaps unreasonable prejudice against AVCHD. The 32G P-2 cards cost about $ 400 and give only about 30 min shooting max res HD . . . . OR at 480i, the 32G card will give ya 140 minutes! With two 32G P-2 cards, you can download one while shooting with the other. The Panasonic single card reader ( with a laptop ) is the cheapest way to do this.</p> <p>The HVX shoots very high quality video, both in HD and standard def. It's maybe a little bit bigger than other cameras, it has waaaay too many set-up bells and whistle options, making it a bit of a challenge before it becomes second nature to operate.</p> <p>I suspect that they're not making any more of them, and the ones for sale are close-outs ( original price was $ 6000 ). If I couldn't find one for sale, I'd be reasonably happy with the HPX170.</p> <p>Rick Crampton</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/seeking-thoughts-on-the-ag-hvx200a-camera#post-74573 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:02:07 +0000 efiebke 74573@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello -</p> <p>I'm still working in standard definition.  During the next couple of months, I hope to "upgrade" to high definition.  There are so many choice of cameras.  However, I'm most familiar with Canon's GL2 and Panasonic's AG-DVX100B (on the SD side).  So, I'm thinking about purchasing a HD camera from either Canon or Panasonic that's comparable to what I have on the SD side.  For Panasonic, this would be it's AG-HVX200A HD camera.  It still uses tape, but it can also use it P2 card.</p> <p>So. . . for anyone who has used the HVX200A camera, how do you like it?  Please share any experience you have regarding its strengths and weaknesses.</p> <p>I see that the camera has a firewire port out.  I have two external recording devices (both from Focus Info) which can record video via the firewire port.  Would such a device work with the HVX200A??</p> <p>Thank you for your time in reading this post and sharing any information.</p> <p>Ted</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/p2-log-transfer-issues-using-fcp-7#post-74561 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:06:52 +0000 chandler 74561@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>So, there might be an obvious answer to this question, and that might be that either I am missing something simple, or that the footage is a lost cause. But in the off-chance that there might be a solution or something that can be done, here goes.</p> <p>I received footage (event multi-cam footage) of an event from almost a year ago. The event was shot with hvx-200's and I received drives with what should be all of the p2 volumes (un-digitized) and some p2 footage digitized. As this was from an event shot a while ago, the original data on the p2 cards themselves is long gone.</p> <p>Most of the footage digitizes fine via FCP log and transfer. But there are some clips, one volume in particular that is giving me a lot of trouble. Digitizing direct from the p2 volume via log &amp; transfer gives me the red exclamation point error symbol immediately after the clips are put into the transfer que. It is important to note that the clips play in preview in the log and transfer window but will not convert/transfer. I tried digitizing with p2 log pro instead of FCP, again from the unchanged p2 volume, and i get a error message saying something along the lines of 'quicktime error.' This pops ups immediately. I tried running p2 log pro repair clip wizard (which has saved me on numerous occasions in the past) on the individual video files within the volume, and making new volume folders for each. This seems to run fine, but when I try to convert the new 'repaired' volume in either FCP log and transfer or direct with P2 Log Pro, i get the same error messages as before.</p> <p>Any thoughts on what might be done? Or is it a lost cause given the I don't have the original p2 card data?</p> <p>Thank you for your time and help.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/newby-question-about-transferring-assets-to-computer-from-tape#post-73964 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 04:09:07 +0000 susanbryg 73964@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks, Kenkyusha - I did finally figure this out.  I was on that path.  What I hadn't done was to set my camera to VCR and then to actually hit the record button in Premiere Pro.   After I tell Premiere where to save the file, it is then recorded and digitized into my computer.  YEAH!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/newby-question-about-transferring-assets-to-computer-from-tape#post-73910 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:30:18 +0000 Kenkyusha 73910@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Once connected via the firewire cable, turn on the camera and go to File &gt; Capture.&nbsp; A&nbsp;new window will pop-up with the controls to log and capture your footage.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/newby-question-about-transferring-assets-to-computer-from-tape#post-73886 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:18:26 +0000 susanbryg 73886@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have the Panasonic DVX100b and I have it connected to the computer just fine.  I have Adobe Premiere Pro CS 5.5  I know it is probably a simple thing, but I don't know how/where in Premiere Pro to effect the transfer. </p> <p>Could you please offer any quick ideas?  I know it should be really simple</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/external-battery-pack-for-the-hmc150#post-72456 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:03:39 +0000 Joshua Strazewski 72456@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;I don't foresee having to shoot longer than that in one straight shot but I do shoot a bicycle event that has gone on for over 12hrs with limited places to charge batteries.&nbsp;</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/external-battery-pack-for-the-hmc150#post-72445 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:12:34 +0000 Charles Schultz 72445@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Panasonic has one that last for 6 hours you can pick them up at B &amp; H photo for a reasonable price. Do You have to shoot longer than 6 hours?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/external-battery-pack-for-the-hmc150#post-72443 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:19:26 +0000 Joshua Strazewski 72443@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;Does anyone know if someone sells a external long life battery for the Panasonic HMC150?</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/diffusion-and-softfx-filters#post-71214 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:09:07 +0000 yixiaohan 71214@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks! I am using Final Cut Pro.It is very good.</p> <p> </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/panasonic-camera-model-suggestions-please#post-69130 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:26:12 +0000 inca 69130@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>An indigenous community needs advice on which Panasonic camera they can buy for their Participatory Video projects.</p> <p>Panasonic<br /> will be sponsoring their request by giving a discount. But they need to<br /> request the model which will be most suitable for their needs. Could<br /> you please guide us a bit according to the specifics below?</p> <p>Budget: US$3000 - to get 2 cameras with their accessories. Hopefully the discount will be substantial.</p> <p>Output<br /> target: acceptable TV quality for local viewing in Malaysia. But does<br /> not have to be high end (naturally, with the budget!). </p> <p>Editing software: Windows 7, Sony Vegas and Adobe Premier</p> <p>Shooting<br /> environment: will definitely include some humid places in the forest.<br /> They lost their older Canon HV40 cameras to problems caused by humidity.</p> <p>I am volunteering for this group. Personally I am carrying a<br /> TM700. I like it, but editing gave me some problems and its full HD<br /> ability actually cost me in terms of weight of several external drives<br /> to carry around with me. They could get that one, but it is now out of<br /> shelves. Perhaps we could use TM900 as the benchmark for any suggestions<br /> you may have.</p> <p>We got little time before they meet Panasonic, so any prompt responses will be highly appreciated. Thanks a bunch.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/panasonic-hmc-150-40-settings#post-68771 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:56:02 +0000 Charles Schultz 68771@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Tim, I work with both the AG150 and the new Ag80 and to tell you the truth I prefer the AG150. If you are going to get another camera, I would pick up another AG150; it would be easier to match the colors. Once you get the color balance you like you can sync the other camera to it. </p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/panasonic-hmc-150-40-settings#post-68769 Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:41:31 +0000 Tim Kline 68769@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Just curious,  I use the Panasonic Hmc 40 and 150.  </p> <p>I generally film it on normal and mess with colors in After FX, and Color Curves.  This has worked for a while, but when your doing a 30 min infomercial...it gets tedious.   Does anybody have any settings they use for TV that really just kill it and look amazing.  Usually filming at 30fps.</p> <p>Also.....Looking to upgrade.....anybody purchase any of the new cameras that came out this year...and which ones...??</p> <p>Thanks  Tim</p> <p>Fourtenvisuals</p> <p><a href="http://www.fourtenvisuals.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fourtenvisuals.com</a></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/footage-panasonic-hmc150#post-68177 Sun, 22 May 2011 14:32:51 +0000 Addison Lynch 68177@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>How did you get such a shallow depth of field in this? I have the HMC-40 and I can never seem to achieve this with my interview footage</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/help-needed-to-establish-selling-price-of-a-panasoic-v3-broadcast-camera#post-68087 Wed, 18 May 2011 19:14:52 +0000 fred 68087@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> </p> <p>Hello</p> <p>I bought this video camera which came from a storage unit that had other video equipment inside. It appears to be in good condition, I have NOT powered it up or tested it. Photos here: <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/fmfelker/CameraVideoPanasonicWVV3?authkey=Gv1sRgCOrj5IqrgMWbmAE#" rel="nofollow">https://picasaweb.google.com/fmfelker/CameraVideoPanasonicWVV3?authkey=Gv1sRgCOrj5IqrgMWbmAE#</a></p> <p>1. Can you give me an idea of how much I should sell this camera for and who would buy such a camera and to use it for what purpose?</p> <p>2. Does it appear in the photos that all the cords are there to power up the camera?</p> <p>3. Any comments on the camera or selling it?</p> <p><img alt="Panasonic V3 Camera" src="https://picasaweb.google.com/fmfelker/CameraVideoPanasonicWVV3?authkey=Gv1sRgCOrj5IqrgMWbmAE#5605287208884986418" /></p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ag-hmc40#post-67472 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:53:36 +0000 Charles Schultz 67472@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Earl, hold out for the HMC-150, I love mine man, Great in low light and has many great features.</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ag-hmc40#post-67064 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 08:17:51 +0000 Tim Kline 67064@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>&nbsp;Panasonic Hmc 40 is pretty much the best bang for your buck.&nbsp; I agree with the above posting, that "low lighting" filming isnt the best, but I feel the pro's outweigh the cons.&nbsp;&nbsp; Wide Angle Lense is amazing and for under 300, you cant beet it.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you have any questions on settings or anything else on the camera, let me know.&nbsp; You can contact me through email or webite.</p> <p><a href="http://www.fourtenvisuals.com">http://www.fourtenvisuals.com</a></p> <p><a href="mailto:info@fourtenvisuals.com">info@fourtenvisuals.com</a></p> <p>Plenty of our videos on the site are actually shot with the Hmc, so you can get a good feel on the wide angle lenses also!</p> http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-converter-failed#post-66950 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:31:53 +0000 Cinebasics 66950@http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I personally would use Cineform, it's fast, it's easy, and their AVI files are great to work with and lose very little quality if any.</p>